dougster

All I'm saying is give me a recorded incident where the fielding of an ineligible player, not half a team like Sion, where the results have been reversed? if you can fair enough, if you can't your input is irrelevant

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/celtic/six-players-that-played-when-ineligible-1-4127301

me too but that doesn't mean it's right

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/celtic/six-players-that-played-when-ineligible-1-4127301

Obviously had argumentative spaghetti for tea, jog on, there is no comparison with this case and you know it,

that could be wishful thinking but i'd take it

5 players in that case 5 my 'deluded' friend

yes they have, if you can find anywhere, in any league which has reversed the result for this offence let me know. 3 points deducted yes but never a reversal of the result

mind you they never won any anyway

Agreed, Ive never seen it before unless the other team folds mid season, look at Fort William this season 9 points deducted but not awarded to the other team. Fort William have been deducted nine points and fined £150 for fielding an ineligible player on three occasions The Claggan Park side have lost all five of their opening matches this season, conceding 48 goals and scoring on only two occasions. A statement released by the Highland League this morning confirmed the points penalty. It read: “’The matter of Fort William FC fielding an ineligible player on three occasions was considered by the league management committee at its meeting yesterday evening. “In forming its conclusion, the league management committee took into account the fact that the club had agreed that this amounted to a breach of Rule 8.9.4 and that the terms of clause 8.9.13 provided for a mandatory penalty. “Consequently, the meeting decided that Fort William FC be fined a total of £150 and deducted nine points with immediate effect.”

Unfortunately, the players are not the problem, I bet they were hurting, we all were

Berwick fans come in all shapes and sizes, they also don't all live near the ground, a lot of Berwick fans live hundreds sometimes 1000s of miles away, doesn't make them any less of a supporter, Years ago when i edited the fanzine, i learnt pretty quickly the club i thought was mine was actually shared with a lot of other people, some local some not. Every Berwick fan has a right to an opinion, in a way that's what makes football such a great sport. I don't agree with the personal attacks aimed at JH or the board but i reserve the right to call out what I see and hear and if that is in the form of criticism so be it, We are in a precarious place, Ill be there on Saturday to give my support in this crucial time but ill also say to JB or anyone else who'll listen exactly how I feel, but just don't invite me in the dressing room just after if we get another hammering, it wouldn't be very pretty

Aye still seething since 1954....

It wasn’t a fluke 6-0, it was a bloody embarrassment, that’s 14 goals we conceded over there without reply. This season and as someone said, we have played a lot better Annan teams than this current one. But let’s not beat about the bush, this situation has been coming for the last 3-4 seasons, the board are culpable for that, supporters or not.

A good point but now irrelevant as this team is Harvey's, only 3 players from Horn's last game were in that side on Saturday, Agreed, when it started to go tits up he sat back down in the dug out with his hands in his pockets, he waited until they scored another until he changed things, too little too late. The lack of comment from the club looks like they are going to take the gamble and keep him, I hope they are are right, i really do

next up , is JH a beast toucher because he walks with his left foot first? Ffs guys he's a p/t football manager not Kim Jong Um

Well a game of two halves indeed. After not expecting anything and with a side that raised a few eyebrows when announced, Berwick had a very good 45 minutes of football. An early header was well saved by Brennan then we bossed the game for the next 35 minutes or so. Brydon and Wilson looked strong and Cook and Forbes as full backs looked a good pairing. We should have scored at least two with Blues and Barr (there’s a pun in there somewhere) both missing good opportunities. Then one of the most bizarre moments for which 2nd division football is most famous. Rose pulled down on the edge of the box ref plays advantage as the ball breaks to Barr who’s shot is well saved. Ref decides the advantage is over then proceeds to book the Annan player who pulled the guy down, eh? So where’s the advantage? Anyway we went in at half time 0-0 the few hardy souls who ventured across the A7 looking shell shocked, what’s happening? This was not in the script. but of course as John Cleese once said Despair? I can can cope with despair it’s the hope I can’t handle and so it came to pass. No sooner had Plastic Bertrand’s punk classic died on the tannoy when we conceded a soft goal, it was difficult to see as it was the other end from us but that was quickly followed by a softish but giveable penalty after th ball came back off the bar. Johnny Harvey then proceeded to sit down in the dug out while the team tried to sort itself out, strange one, he reminds me of a younger jimmy Thomson, no outward signs that he cares or otherwise . Before too long Annan with their tails up got a third still no changes in formation or visible instructions to the team. The rest was a horror show. Annan’s confidence was mirrored by our complete lack of it . We wanted to leave early but the ‘only doing my job’ stewards wouldn’t open the exit so we could skunk back to our cars without being seen. Instead we had to bear the agony to the final whistle other than take the ‘walk of shame’ along the front of the stand. So I don’t know now. I saw great things the first half but the second half was the stuff of nightmares. Shout out to Annan who changed their shape second half and adapted to their second best showing in the first. As for Berwick, I think we have a struggle ahead, next week is the big one methinks. We win we have a chance, we lose and then it’s a cup final against Albion and anything is possible. Not impressed with JH his lack of response to the 2nd goal the introduction of the subs only with 20mins to go, then taking off our best players. Bizarre. I’ll leave it to others to decide. Desperate times indeed .

I’m going to wait until I calm down before I give a game report but when we go 2-0 down, the last thing you expect is your manager to sit down in the dug out with his hands in his pockets. Where was the direction where was the gee up where was any semblance of leadership? I’ll say no more for now except he has to go, sorry.

Don't think that really matters, they were given the opportunity, it's up to them to take it. Jack Cook is one that springs to mind

With splendid and complete Elizabethan built walls, a rich and fascinating history, the barracks, the Lowry trail, the beautiful salmon fishing Tweed, etc etc and Cowden has er well Lochelly isn’t too far away

I'm getting a feeling of acceptance of our fate, not a good sign. i too thought a change would help but yes that moment has gone. So let's not talk about next season yet, this squad and management team need to keep us in the league by merit or via the play-offs, let's focus on the job in hand.

we'll have to agree to disagree, The reduced admission fee is a great idea

We complain because we care, it’s our club too. We want the team to succeed just as much as you do but as the guy above says, it’s a sad day when we need to rely on Cowden to help keep us up.

I’m sure I have our promotion winning game vs Montrose somewhere under Tom Hendrie was it ?

I think that's the key point Brian, we are all very concerned about all of the above, maybe why there has been this reaction.