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1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said:
Well why would I when you were only talking about the OF support "sustaining" St Johnstone?
The SPL doesn't exist.
St Johnstone would survive without the OF. We never voted them into the league. Your own wee scab club has voted OF Colts into the league system. The two things aren't close to being comparable.
survive being the operative word, if you knew anything about it you'd know the vote to let them in or not hasn't taken place yet. Fed up with nosey cnuts like you talking shite now do one
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19 hours ago, Gordon EF said:
The last full season there are figures for, St Johnstone's average non-OF home crowd was 3,414. Their average OF home crowd was 6,440. Which means that the 'extra' at OF games accounts for only 12% of their total league attendances. And given that league ticket sales are only a % of the club's total revenue, suggesting that St Johnstone "live off" OF away crowds is ridiculous.
St Johnstone didn't see massively bigger crowds when Celtic visited compared to the likes of Aberdeen, Dundee or Hibs.
and the TV rights of course, and league sponsors, you have added that to your total? No course not.
20 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:Next to none, just now. Does that mean I'm not allowed to say its horrendous and long term damaging for the lower tiers?
I'm 100% convinced this is the first step to them entering the league set up, at which point they'll try and close off the pyramid again. They've tried to bully clubs into it for the best part of a decade.
We built up a bank balance of over £1m when we were in the league below them, m8, and since then have brought in £2m+ from transfers, well over £20m in terms of prize money, and still run at a profit.
"Living off the blue/green pound" is the kind of chat you get from knuckle headed OF fans, but I guess fans of Berwick are now on that side of the fence...
I'm pointing out that the SPL wouldn't be worth shite without them, but you carry on living the dream. No one likes the Old Firm unless you are one of them but it's sheer hypocrisy to come onto this forum and tell other teams they're scabs when you have sponged off them for years.
Good luck in the cup btw.
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23 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:
Hopefully a shite season awaits for the king scabs of Scottish football.
It wasn't worth it and it never will be.
Aye and you sanctimonious bar stewards have lived off their away support for years, when you ban their fans from the farm, come back and tell us what to do
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16 hours ago, Mon_The_Fife said:
If the only ambition of your club is to suckle on the tit of the Old Firm then the sooner it dies along with the other Lowland League losers the better.yawn
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23 hours ago, Paul Kersey said:
I know, rather than debate the issues, I'll steal a photo from google and write swear words on it - stupid arse
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22 minutes ago, Stewie Griffin said:
Thought it was all about player development
read the last sentence again
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1 hour ago, Jacksgranda said:
You'd think after Rangers tried to shaft them and East Stirlingshire back in the early 60s with league reconstruction these two would be vehemently opposed to all things Rangers.
This is a good question, they also proposed reducing the league by 6 teams in the 90s which was successfully opposed by the then Berwick chairman Tom Davidson. He actually negotiated a better deal for the existing then Division two and three clubs from the SPL, you can thank us later. Didn't hear anyone from Aberdeen or any other higher league club for that matter jumping up and down then.
The truth is the top league live and thrive off the Old Firm, the other league clubs, including us when we were in the league, prayed to draw them in the cup. Yet when a wee upstarty league want a slice it's no we cant be having that, it will ruin the game, not fair I tell thee, down with the little buggers, hey Andy! Start a petition. Hypocrisy all round I'm afraid
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2 hours ago, TheScarf said:
f**k your c**t of a club mate.
Thank you, your comments have been noted er mate
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Some interesting comments and some absolute pish too. On the Berwick fan Facebook page, we did a poll with the vast majority coming out against the Colts joining however the powers that be, with the organised Supporters groups, decided to go with the League proposal. There's good arguments for and against but some of the numpties on here calling for a boycott or petitions who have never been near a Lowland league game are just stirring the shite, and one or two of their own club's ownership has been questionable for years. I'm not too enamoured with the decision myself, I know some Berwick fans are absolutely livid. Of course it's about money, every club will want the benefit and I bet you none of the five 'no' voters will turn down the extra money they receive.
So calm down Space Cadets and get your own houses in order first before you start throwing stones.
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On 19/07/2019 at 12:14, Durnford said:
Just looked at Berwick's official site and it looks like they only have 6 senior player; the rest are presumably made up by the development squad. Not sure what your strategy should be in that circumstance - is it better to try and keep the numbers down by sitting in or should you simply go for it; give the boys a decent run out and expect nothing but hope to give a good account of yourselves?
We have close to a full squad, the website has just been passed to new volunteers, one of whom is away on holiday hence the slow updates. This cup is an irrelevance to us in our current situation but good way to get the young lads fit and hopefully gelling as a team.
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3 hours ago, Ducket Lodger said:
Just sitting here watching from afar!
I've been quiet on here since the new regime has taken over, I don't know if the new appointments will bring significant change to BRFC.
Bell has what he wanted, full control of the club, with Corporal Pike as his number 2 , As I have said many times I am not a Bell supporter, but he has the opportunity to take the club forward in the way he see's fit, new stadium or not.
Good luck to the new incumbents, however, do the new board have in place investment strategy for team building, we need a competitive team on the park more than anything, so forgive me for pointing to the obvious, but time is ticking away and not many players seem interested in us, most players are already signed up for the new campaign.
Are we to be a lowly to mid-table LL team or will we be up and around the top six, poor results and a crap team will see interest continue to dwindle.
The board seems to be more of the same, a couple of new faces, a couple of losers dropping out, but essentially it is the same group who got the club relegated in the first place, so I'll stick to my prediction that they will be out of business by May 2022 - Negative or what!!!
your usual cheery self DL, you do have some valid points this time.
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Well here we are, in the league of the Lowlanders, any tips on the best and worst away days? Looking forward to visiting some new grounds
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6 hours ago, berwick-the-unbeatable said:
No excuses for the rest now then?
Absolutely
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4 hours ago, Ducket Lodger said:
Dougster = John Bell's Laddie
Criticising your fither is always hard to take!
Had away and boil your heid
A good days fishing, Don’t dish it out if you can’t take it Rodger
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2 hours ago, Ducket Lodger said:
Serial Bell supporters Redcar and Dougster can slag me off all they want, but yes, I was correct with the Yano and Brownlie appointments.
Consider Yano's recent record with WW, not good at all!
Yano may well be a decent manager, I have no doubt given the tools he would make a decent fist of it, but without serious investment in the team, I don't believe Yano can significantly improve an already poor team, remember, the club already re-signed a large proportion of this seasons relegated team.
More of the same from the boardroom, no communication, no word about new faces or potential investment, so it status quo, which probably doesn't surprise anyone.
Once again you miss the point, you're like a big kid who's crayons have been confiscated, We know you don't like JB , we know you are a mate of Walla, now stop being a miserable c*nt and start bringing something positive to this forum,
have a nice day
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10 hours ago, Redcar said:
And you wonder why contributions are dwindling on here.
You are entitled to your opinion, and I agree with some of it, but posting the same stuff over and over again? 3 or 4 times a day?
You'll come back at me with some bile, some tosh about me being a Bell supporting Trust member... but all you are doing is ensuring that the already limited number of fans who post on here will just not bother.'And I'll say this, see that John Bell..... I'll no be back........ The club is doomed..... who stole my crayons...... See that john bell..... it's a conspiracy...... hope i'm wrong.... Club will fold.... John bell.... 3 years.... I'm right .... Yano.... Walla.... ' ad infinitum
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Declan OKane signed for Musselburgh according to their Twitter
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On 19/05/2019 at 09:40, berwick-the-unbeatable said:
You don't half talk some bollocks, as illustrated by your desperate need to continue repeatedly making this point. The reality is that Lenny and Walla will be a piece of piss to get rid of. For fucksake, the SC has just released a statement that shows as much.
It's clear on the other hand however that John believes he's the right man for the job still. He's still busy banging on about how he's got a sustainable plan and can't understand why fans are calling him out on plans so idealistic they verge on dangerous. He thinks the same majority of fans questioning it will be the same putting more money into the club next season. There's a clear disconnect that needs to be highlighted.
And in any case as above, singing sack the board doesn't mean sack John. If you want to know why more frustration is aimed at John, it's because he's by far the biggest blocker to change at the moment. It's mental you'll happily defend any individual, but then you wear very similarly tinted glasses to those you'll happily accuse everyone else of wearing when it comes the pair you mention.
Ok I promised I would answer this, the Statement from the supporters club was written by whom exactly? It looks a well prepared statement probably written before the game. You say that Lenny and Walla are easy to get rid off, I beg to differ as they are the supporters club representatives on the board. it's like a business owner writing to himself and saying 'you better resign or I'm calling an EGM and then i will sack myself' , it aint gonna happen. As proved by the subsequent 'not our fault' interview on TV.
And make no mistake, Len Eyre will always be known as the Chairman of Berwick Rangers FC who took us out of the SPFL after 64 years.
The major shareholder's board representatives should be as responsible as any other director for this complete and utter shambles in leadership. Which brings me to your next paragraph, where in my posts do i defend JB? I actually said he is as much to blame as the others . It seems any comment made about the SC is taken as a defence of JB, far from it. They have a collective responsibility to the club and frankly they have ALL let us down. So if you sack or ask one to resign, you have to ask them all and that means Walla and Chairman Len too.
So here we are 5 weeks before training starts with no leadership, no news on the management team, the players, signings, budgets, but hey that's a great excuse if it goes tits up, after all we got away with last summer remember?
As one supporter said to me at 5pm last Saturday, it's heartbreaking it really is
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35 minutes ago, Ducket Lodger said:
To be honest it went badly wrong for BRFC when the trust idea of club ownership launched, it produced a faction under Bell who wanted and still wants to take full control of the club, SC and ST buying shares has been the downfall, although they will not admit it, dissect the board and you will realise how the clash of opinions and personalities cannot take the club forward, Bell has in his mind set to where he wants to take the club and will not change, there is lack of investment on the playing squad, no wonder there is infighting, couple that with pish communications and you will understand it is a full blown royal shambles.
Your lack of irony is astonishing
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8 minutes ago, Neilly said:
I find it amazing watching Berwick over the years with how much infighting there is with the board, trust, supporters etc. How can such a small club get it so badly wrong? Why isn't everyone pulling in the one direction? It can't be a coincidence you ended up so poor on the park with all the shenanigans going on off it.
For a club with 300-400 core support It just seems rather mental from the outside looking in.
Agreed
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55 minutes ago, berwick-the-unbeatable said:
You don't half talk some bollocks, as illustrated by your desperate need to continue repeatedly making this point. The reality is that Lenny and Walla will be a piece of piss to get rid of. For fucksake, the SC has just released a statement that shows as much.
It's clear on the other hand however that John believes he's the right man for the job still. He's still busy banging on about how he's got a sustainable plan and can't understand why fans are calling him out on plans so idealistic they verge on dangerous. He thinks the same majority of fans questioning it will be the same putting more money into the club next season. There's a clear disconnect that needs to be highlighted.
And in any case as above, singing sack the board doesn't mean sack John. If you want to know why more frustration is aimed at John, it's because he's by far the biggest blocker to change at the moment. It's mental you'll happily defend any individual, but then you wear very similarly tinted glasses to those you'll happily accuse everyone else of wearing when it comes the pair you mention.
I’ll answer you in full later as I’m working but in the meantime, if you can, read Craig’s post he said fans singing about Bell I pointed out he isn’t the chairman, puppet Len is and we know who pulls the strings. Craig corrected that to singing sack the board in his next post.
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6 hours ago, Disc Potato said:
The anger is turning quickly into sadness. How has this great club arrived at this stage??
This board started with 200k in the bank(Wow) and in three seasons have completely destroyed this club. I asked one today, how has it come to this ? His reply, no thanks to you trying to get Harvey sacked. Fair to say I gave him it both barrels. He also bolted out the door with 25 mins to go (hopefully never to be seen again).
I honestly don’t know what the future holds but seeing 40+ Berwick fans singing sack the board and anti John Bell songs in the free trade suggests radical change is needed.
Gutted, hurt and some of these b*****ds should be up on attempted murder charges.
To all the great clubs in Div two, good luck for next season and beyond.
Funny how JB gets grief and current chair Lenny and his puppet master Walla get off Scot free.
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26 minutes ago, Radge Cantal said:
STATEMENT
With relegation to the Lowland League after more than 60 years of playing in the Scottish Football League, Berwick Rangers now find themselves in a dire situation.
The past season has been the worst that anyone can remember. Although decisions made by previous directors in the summer of 2018 hindered the club's chances, ultimate responsibility for the season falls at the feet of the current board of directors of the football club.
As the football club's major shareholder, in light of the current situation and as a consequence of decisions made over the course of the season, Berwick Rangers Supporters' Club expects the directors to consider their positions.
A failure to act and actively seek new people to take the club forward in a positive direction could force the Supporters' Club into leveraging its position as a major shareholder in Berwick Rangers Football Club and calling an EGM to ensure that the club sees the change required.
Berwick Rangers have been in existence since 1881 and have a proud history. We could and should have a bright future ahead of us. We believe that this vision can only be achieved with new people driving the football club forward.
That includes Walla and Len, it better do
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Congratulations Cove and good luck next season
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BERWICK RANGERS 2021/22
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me too but they're not going anywhere, and if you like them or not, the SPFL need them to survive in its current format.