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Just now, lichtgilphead said:
Are you willing to have a charity bet that the SNP lose a VONC before a specific date?
There will be a vote of no confidence next week, Tories have already confirmed it will be brought to the floor.
There will be certainly 63 SNP votes of confidence and 57 LIB/LAB/CON votes of no confidence. There is eight green MSP's and who will decide the outcome of the vote. I don't know how they will vote, I bet Patrick Harvie doesn't know how they'll vote yet either. Ash Regans one vote for Alba will be unlikely to matter.
The question the Greens will be asking themselves is if they want to see the man who just sacked them from government after backing down on a climate pledge continue as First Minister while they sit in opposition. I assume you think they do want that? Maybe they do, we'll soon find out.
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30 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said:
Leaving aside the problems with calling an election early, this assumes that Ash Regan & all the Greens will vote to bring down a pro-indy Government.
If they do, Alba or the Greens won't be getting my list vote next time round. I'm sure that I'm not the only SNP voter that feels this way.
Why would Alba or the Greens want to cut off their noses to spite their faces in this way?
Alba for one will be licking their lips at this today. They will rightly see themselves as the next natural coalition partner of the SNP. They’ll want an election cause they’ll believe - rightly or wrongly - they can increase their vote share and get into government as the junior partner to the next SNP administration. They’re the potential biggest winners.
Maybe the Greens will vote for that they do have confidence in the first minister who back tracked on a climate promise and then threw them out of government when they called them on it, but I doubt it.
The no confidence motion will be brought to the floor soon enough I’m sure, so we’ll soon see.0 -
Be funny if it was Paddy Harvie who brought a motion of no confidence in the administration and brought the house down with him as he leaves government. There are more non SNP MSP's than SNP MSP's in the chamber after all, it would certainly pass if the Greens voted for it. Time to go to the polls.
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This should - in theory at least - lead to a snap Scottish Parliamentary election. The SNP running a minority administration under an unelected First Minister can't be sustainable for another two years. I suspect Humza will try and brass neck it for as long as he can right enough, before the inevitable happens.
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I’ve convinced myself we are ‘due one’ against the bigoted two this season. In almost all of the seasons we have been in the top flight we have taken something from them at least once, even if it was just a point.
So far this season, in a season where they’ve both been dropping points all over the shop, we have played them seven times, lost seven times, scored 1 and conceded 16.
So, we must be due something, right? And where better to get it at home to a stuttering Rangers. We are certainly out of form - just one point from our last four games, but so are they. They’re winless in three league games and in their last they’ve lost to lowly Ross County and - annoyingly for us - drew to Dundee.
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You just need to look at this Misc other football board on this forum to see how popular English football is in Scotland.
On the first page of that board alone we have the Barclays thread, the English football league thread, the English non league thread, the FA Cup thread, The Everton thread, the Carlisle thread and the Liverpool thread.A few years ago I got speaking to someone who worked behind the scenes in the broadcast media and naturally got to me moaning about how bad the Scottish football coverage was compared to English football. He said that he knew that, but MOTD has more Scottish viewers than Sportscene does.
Dont know how we go about changing that but I don’t think it’s going away.
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7 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:
You don't know what you're missing. Been some fantastic entertainment this season.
The title decider is tonight! Point is you'd be lucky if more than 1% of Scottish football fans knew this, you are that 1%
I wonder if there is a Northern Ireland football forum where they bemoan the amount of coverage their game gets nationally on the BBC.
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14 minutes ago, stu2910 said:
I'm not disputing that someone living in Stockport will be interested in Stockport, that's not the point. In the last few posts you've said that people in Scotland will be interested in Stockport v Tranmere but then go on to question why someone in England would watch Partick v Ayr. Other than, oh I don't know, massively increased media attention, what does the English game have that's so interesting? To get back to the original point, why is this considered interesting enough to show across the board while the Scottish game isn't? You're not wrong that people outside of Scotland don't care, but the coverage has to come first. I doubt you care about watching table tennis but how would you if you never see it.
Taking that a step further, would you watch a Northern Irish Football League Premiership game on the TV? There is a decent title race going on there between Larne and Linfield just now, but I still wouldn't want to watch.
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25 minutes ago, AndyM said:
Totally and @VincentGuerin is correct on this.
I was down there after I finished University for 2 years in the mid 1990s. Worked and live in North London. Used to go watch Barnet regularly and occasionally trips to White Hart Lane which was more expensive on a grad's salary. Scottish Football was not on the radar. Only time I reconnected was when I'd sometimes buy a Sunday Mail and read inevitably about Rangers and Celtic. It's really easy to lose touch with it.
Nobody was interested. My local boozer had two tvs, SkySports was gaining traction and it was always on and they just didn't bother with even the Old Firm game. Why show that when Watford v West Brom was also on?
Yeah having spent a lot of time in England over the years I'd broadly agree with this. I've always thought that English football fans attitude to domestic Scottish football is similar to Scottish football fans attitude to domestic Irish football. They know it exists and they could tell you the names of some of the teams. If there's a bit of geekery there they might even know one or two managers and players. Beyond that there's no real knowledge of who's winning what or who's in what league, and like us about Irish football, they just aren't interested.
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Shat it.
Again.
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Fifth guaranteed Europe then…. Surely we aren’t going to mess this up.
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Don’t get those against Celtic. Celtic get them against you though.
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2 hours ago, Jedi2 said:
Likely to take up to 3 years to even get to court apparently, 'if' the Fiscal decides that there is sufficient evidence.
The fiscal will absolutely have been involved in the charging decision. Will no doubt take years to go to court, but it very probably will.
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Should be an interesting court case, if nothing else. I wonder if Sleazy Pete will take a deal to avoid the Nats dirty laundry being aired in open court.
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FT 3-0
Another Parkhead pumping to add to the list. Good first half, shocking second and therefore well pumped.
One point from our last four going into the split. Reminds me a bit of last season, when we were in a good position and ended the season with eight games without a win and finished sixth.Unless we start playing much better, that’s going to happen again.
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What a player Foden is, B’Alon Dor potential.
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7 minutes ago, Stylish Kid said:
Nah, it's at best a coming together, no kinck involved.
If it's any consolation, if the defender has been Alex Cochrane, and the venue had been Tynecastle, and the attacker had been a Celtic player, it had been given. But that doesn't make it a penalty
Fair play for somehow making Hearts the victim here.
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FT 1-2
Limped over the top six line with a loss again then, just like last season, thanks Saintees!
Plenty happened second half at least. Looked like another Hemming howler to me for their second goal but will need to see it again. Gogic messed up twice that led to chances for Hearts, neither taken.
Then a lovely counter attacking goal by Olusanya, which you don't often get at 0-2 down.
Seemed that the VAR penalties would be levelled up when the ref got sent to the screen to check a foul on McMenamin. They always get given when they get sent to the screen, right? Wrong. Sums up our luck with VAR this season.
Regardless, we were rubbish today and thats a really bad result at home against team with nothing to play for and our form poor form continues. We will need to improve hugely post split if we are going to get Europe.0 -
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Been a rubbish game, wind is running it really. Both teams have been poor and there haven’t really been any chances.
We had the wind behind us all half, cunningly decided not to use it to our advantage at all. Free kick on the half time whistle there and a chance to hang a ball up in the wind. Decided to play it short, messed it up, then it was half time. Summed the half up.
The VAR handball penalty for Hearts is the only thing that’s really happened.
Eyes on Easter Road second half, hopefully Saintees hold on. Can’t see us coming back to win this with the wind in our face second half - hope I’m wrong!
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Hopefully we don’t get three goals wrongly disallowed this time.
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14 hours ago, HTG said:
Indy is dead as long as Scotland waits to be "given" independence. No matter what popular demand might look like, no UK PM will ever grant another referendum on the subject. Scotland will need to take its independence. As far as I can see, nobody is terribly keen on that approach if it's deemed to break international law - not that breaking international law seems to bother the UK govt. It would potentially scupper access to trading blocks though.
Correct it is over. The Scottish independence movement will go the same way as the Quebec one. A slow and steady slide into obscurity.
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6 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said:
We get the same champions all the time now, due to 'artificial' conditions.
You just won't see it that way.
Artificial how? The two of them have much more fans than everyone else. They've got over 100,000 season ticket holders between them, that's far more than every other Scottish club combined. Their income is considerably higher than everyone else and that's why they win everything, and will continue to win everything, regardless of league format or FFP.
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39 minutes ago, craigkillie said:
There are plenty of current examples in Scottish football of people chucking unsustainable money at clubs though, you just have to look a little bit below the top flight for it. Edinburgh City, Kelty, Darvel, Johnstone Burgh etcMoney is thrown about at part time level all the time. There’s obviously plenty of small investors willing to do that for various local reasons and becoming the best part time club in Scotland isn’t difficult. None of those clubs will ever play in the top flight. I was referring to the full time game, where the sums needed are very different.
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54 minutes ago, velo army said:
I don't see what problem FFP is supposed to solve here. There is already a points penalty for administration and it doesn't happen that often.
Personally I don't want to see any barriers (beyond a reasonable "fit and proper" assessment) to some rich fella coming in and financially doping the Jags (or any other team outwith ICT, Falkirk and Airdrie) to the Scottish cup or even the title.
We don't need to copy England all the time.
Agree with this. FFP in Scotland would just solve a problem that sadly in a way, just doesn’t exist. It’s like building a fence to keep out the wolves, when the wolves went extinct over 10 years ago, with the failed Mileson and Romanov experiments.
Many examples show this, Stewart Gilmour was desperately trying to sell St Mirren for over a decade, it ended up having to be the fans buying him out.
Already mentioned the Browns troubles in trying to offload St Johnstone and I’m sure we’ve all seen the video of Motherwell whoring themselves for ‘investors’ on social media.
No one of any proper means is interested in investing in any of these clubs, all of whom are secure in the top flight and debt free, there just are no wolves for FFP to keep out.
The reason for this came up on a Q&A with the Hollywood Wrexham investors. I didn’t see it but I believe they were asked if they considered investing in a Scottish club before they chose Wrexham. They said they looked at it and concluded it was not a viable investment.
It would be easy to make any club in the 42 the third force in Scotland without much investment, but anything beyond that just isn’t realistically achievable.
With Wrexham, they’ll see what similarly sized clubs are doing in the EPL just now and think that there’s no reason that won’t be them within 10 years, and then they may be able to sell for a profit.
Point is anyone with serious money to invest in football isn’t going to choose to invest in Scottish football, why would they? FFP just stops the much dreamed of and very rare rich fan putting his cash in. This further helps to maintains the status quo, which is not really endangered anyway.1
The Very Meh Humza Yousaf Thread.
in The Politics Forum
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Eh? There’s 65 MSP’s between the Greens, Lib, Labour and Lib Dem’s, not 64? There’s 129 MSP’s, 64 votes is not enough.
I’m tempted for the bet now because you’ve obviously miscounted before you offered it, but I don’t know what the Greens will do, and certainly wouldn’t bet on weasel Harvie having the backbone to bring down the SNP government.
He’ll decide though, cause the Greens will vote as a block one way or another.