Dundee Hibernian

I was there, spent the whole match o the North Bank, recall reading stories of trouble with teenagers as much as an hour before the game within the ground, but apart from the usual movements after goals which were the norm on terraces at matches with larger attendances, there wasn't much out of the ordinary in my memory. Having spent a while in the pub (Sheep's Heid) before kick off, I seemed to miss what was reported as bother later on and the next day. From what I remember, the left side of the enclosure was mainly populated by United fans for the entire match (well, until the 88th minute) and the video seems to bear that out.

I agree with a few on here regarding Rodd Graham being our best player today, posting to add Kai Fotheringham is wasted as a winger, to me he's a striker, and if Wotherspoon had to play today, put him wide, or bring him on for the ineffectual Middleton (today) later on. Goodwin knows better, I suppose.

I'm wondering if he's as reliable as the defender United had on loan from Cardiff in the first half of the season. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the game, hoping to get a view of United's new signings.

Firhill in 1976: Pittodrie, unsure of year:

Agree with what you've written, and the part above was a puzzle: I thought the assistant (really, the linesman) had suffered a broken pencil, but your guess makes more sense. To win when playing poorly is the sign of a good side, so goes the saying, but that may be a costly victory given the players potentially missing the next fixture at Balmoor. Finally, for the referee to only card Stenhousemuir players, at an average of a card per three fouls, but swerve bookings for the visitors, was another puzzle.

The things people say: https://www.instagram.com/p/CWFhBInIMPi/

Coventry City’s Scottish contingent with obligatory bagpipes, around 50 years ago.

It truly has, I imagine this thread would have been fiercely furious if the points swing had gone in the other direction, which it could have.

I think Peter Moulds from Leeds was the author of the original centenary history in 1984, on which 'Onwards and Upwards' was based in 1996. But regarding the fire brigade story, years on my dad and grandpa both assured me that that happened, and that I'd been taken to matches in that season. I've got a vague recollection of a match v QoS, but the first game I certainly recall was the visit of Morton in September 1963, to me a huge crowd, but on the excellent London Hearts site it is listed as 2290.

Michael Crawford.

Please indulge me. That one league defeat this season I recall saying was a freak match and result. But the reaction to that from the players and management was solid, three wins on the trot, and following the cup loss, to go 11 winning games in a row is fantastic. I've very few fears (!) that this team will positively react to any minor set-back as the season progresses, and will be ecstatic if/when the title is sealed. On the subject of winning a title and with respect to @Francesc Fabregas, the Warriors were highly competitive in the late 'fifties and early 'sixties, and were very close to the title in 60-61. With a game in hand on eventual winners Stirling Albion (SFC on 33 games, Albion on 34 in a 36 game season), the Ochilview club went to Annfield and took the lead in a crucial game on a strangely waterlogged pitch, only to get bogged down and well beaten by the home side. Stenhousemuir finished five points behind at the season’s end: prior to that defeat the Warriors had won 10 matches in a row. As an aside, to illustrate how football has changed, Stenhousemuir scored 99 league goals that season, and lost 69. To conclude this ramble, here's a Stenhousemuir team photograph from, I think, that game mentioned above at Annfield.

@Shadow Play, will you tell this Clach fan, or will I?

Lucky win for United, given the poor midfield performance. Obviously, I don't think that was a penalty for ICT at the end, but would have been wanting it if it was our claim. Same as I wanted a penalty in the first half for Watt, but it wasn't one then either. Tony Watt is a child, as an aside.

Think United will be wearing the newly released black cup strip. Wait.......

I don't think that's the case: the SPL and SFL had a different set of regulations, which allowed the top league to be a closed shop when they chose. The SPFL operates as one body for all 42 clubs, but there are maybe circumstances I'm unaware of which allows them to f**k over clubs when it doesn't suit them. I've lost a lot of interest in football over the past few years. VAR was (almost) the final straw.

Famous ex-Dundee centre forward who signed on at Tannadice three times (twice during WW2), and netted more than a goal a game in his spells as a wartime player: 87 goals in 73 matches. Albert Juliussen. @Derry Alli think he averaged more than a goal a game at Dens. In two consecutive games for Dundee in 1947, he scored 13 goals (6&7).

(Maybee) Steven Robb as well, Iain Phillip, and I think a boy called Wallace in the late fifties.

If I've understood your question, Tommy Coyne? United-Dundee-Celtic-Tranmere-Motherwell-Dundee Billy Dodds? Dundee-St Johnstone-Aberdeen-United-Rangers-United Jim McInally? First spell at Dens on loan, but 2 different spells with United, then back to Dundee. There are others, but I'll leave it here in case I have the wrong end of the stick.

Dumfries Hibernian (1897-1901), short lived that they were, also ran a reserve side, and a third XI, Dumfries Hibernian Cartsdyke XI. They played at Castledykes Park (1897-1899) then Eastfield Park (1899-1901). They used green jerseys and white shorts, as had the previous Dumfries Harp (1889-1891), stationed at Kingholm The Dumfries Harp name was revived in 1913, but the Great War helped their demise in 1915. Dumfries Hibernian and Dumfries Harp were senior sides. I'm unsure if there's much in the demography which led to the structure of players at those clubs, as throughout Scotland many clubs briefly flourished with Irish sections to their names, some formed by Irish immigrants, others with only tenuous connections to 'Hibernia'. It's perhaps more likely that descendents of RC immigrants had an influence on the origins.

No point if he's injured though. Alex Grieve has scored a couple against us, but hasn't been prolific you'd have to say. As I recall, he did have a bit of pace, more than Moult or Watt (not difficult).

I agree with you, the next manager may well be worse, but we can't get rid of him because of finances.....although it could be argued that failure this season will make the club less attractive to potential new owners, and so on. On another note, the first manager for me was Jerry Kerr.

We really can't be blaming the referee, as bad as he was, for another inept home display. Goodwin is much mre culpable, yet we can't get rid of him.

All about taste and time, but tonight I'll go for the Carr twins, Jimmy Tax Dodger and Alan "I'm Gay". Especially Jimmy.

Not read through the thread, but well done Morton. Imrie knows how to get control of games, Goodwin doesn't. Jim perhaps comes across better in the media, Dougie is the brighter of the two, in a footballing sense.

Different topic, but see all the tears over Willie Collum's recent VAR performance from Sevco, aided by the media? It brought back memories to me of his achievements some years ago at Tannadice where he sent off three United players and awarded three penalties against us in a heavy 0-4 home defeat, a couple of weeks after we'd beaten the same team 3-2 at their ground. Opponents were the original Rangers. I thought he was biased towards Rangers that night, but over the many years since, I've realised that he's just a useless cunt.