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Looking forward to visiting some different pubs.

Think the latter is true, although there may be credence in both views. Watt appears to have never grown up, he appears like a difficult adolescent, and given he's now thirty, it's doubtful he'll ever become mature. The one good thing he did last night, apart from going off on the hour, was a pass to give a player a good chance on goal. Unfortunately, that player was Middleton.

A lot of folk around me and some here wanting Goodwin out, but given he's contracted until May 2025, if United/Ogren have the money to punt him, tonight I'd rather use it to get Watt to fuck off.

Airdrie fully deserved the three points, and I'd like to think the game would be a wake up call to United. Goodwin isn't a positive manager, and his failure to start a player who scored three out of four goals against tonight's opponents puzzled me, but the players who started were even more culpable than the manager tonight, Miller Thomson excepted. The thing is, we'll soon knock that out of the young player.

The big V shaped collar was very common on football jersey of the 'fifties and early 'sixties, even Airdrieonians themselves had a kit in that style: Roy Erskine certainly contributed to the Murray look, here are a couple of images of him playing for Stirling Albion and Cowdenbeath:

Late to the party: Stirling probably had a thick red band on white for their jersey, a few years later they played with two thin red hoops on white as their home outfit. I'm guessing Arbroath reverted to their original black and white QP style jerseys for the change strip: they played in that style when they were formed in 1878. The above could be completely wrong, mind you! Here's the Albion in 57-58 with the style of playing kit used until the mid-60s. They revived this design for a couple of seasons 10 years ago.

That's similar to what I'm saying, surely? > "his displays affected by playing alongside some of the laziest, overrated senior colleagues I've seen playing for United last season". Goodwin had him in and out the side, after taking over. I think he only played 4 full games under Goodwin, two of those United collected full points, another was a loss at Ibrox. I usually agree with you, but not on this occasion. McNamara didn't appear to have a consistent eye for a player, inheriting most of his stars. Robertson and Aidan Connolly were signed at the same time, both as back up, and I doubt any United fan expected much from them initially. Nadir Çiftçi was a revelation, and I'd like to think it was an inspired decision from Jackie, but many of his other signings show that one up, perhaps as a bit of a fluke. When GMS and Armstrong left for Celtic in Jan. 2015, McNamara put a club video out stating he had the players to cover their loss, Ryan Dow was the one named as the GMS replacement, Chris Erskine would be the direct successor for Armstrong. They scored the 3 goals in the next match at Stranraer, and everything would be fine. Jackie lost most of the next 7 matches, gaining only 1 points from 21. In amongst that were the 4 games against Celtic (3 cup fixtures), which probably drained the life out of the support, and must have left the few remaining McNamara fans questioning his abilities. For me, McNamara's reputation deserves very little sympathy.

Sad to see Freeman go, confidence shattered by Goodwin especially, but his displays affected by playing alongside some of the laziest, overrated senior colleagues I've seen playing for United last season.

Easily believable too: Starmer's Labour Party is full of conniving contortionists.

Pub player sometimes, Tony Watt.

I agree with you to an extent: Murray brought on fresh players when Rovers and the match needed new energy, Goodwin didn't. He brought on players, later, which weakened our chances of scoring, and later still, in a panic after the wonder goal.

Some strike for the winner: I won't go into the obvious regarding United's lack of midfield presence, as that would be obvious to all, apart from Goodwin. We're stuck with him until the season's end, and if promotion is the outcome, he'll be away by October, but what a negative manager. For him complaining about where a throw in was taken in the lead up to the winner: perhaps he should concentrate on why his players were concentrated in the box to defend that throw in, rather than trying to stop the initial cross coming in. At least it makes the rest of the season interesting.

To the important stuff: on the walk up from Starks to the Beveridge Car Park, is the shop on the junction from Ramsay Road and Barnet Crescent open until 10pm? Any help much appreciated.

A Scottish player I had never heard of until recently, Derek 'Jesus' Currie. He arrived as one of a trio of inaugural professionals in Hong Kong in 1970 and quickly became a trailblazer, after an inauspicious career at Third Lanark and Motherwell. Held in the highest regard in the British Colony, Currie was known as 'Jesus' throughout the Territory, even after retiring in 1982. There are lots of articles about Currie's career, the following contains photographs of him with Pele, Geoff Hurst, Alex Ferguson, and Peter Schmeichel. https://www.pattayamail.com/sports/pattayasports/when-jesus-came-to-hong-kong-the-remarkable-story-of-the-first-european-football-star-in-asia-421370 The title of that article contains the name of his autobiography, "When 'Jesus' Came to Hong Kong: the remarkable story of the first European star in Asia". As a huge Hong Kong celebrity, he met many star visitors: here he is with Marvelous Marvin Hagler and Stevie Wonder:

I always thought it was Kilbowie until someone pointed out that Ferranti Thistle had been guided to Meadowbank Stadium in the mid 70s.

Winners of the Scottish Cup 100 years ago, Airdieonians. In a side which contained Hughie Gallacher and Bob McPhail, both goals in a 2-0 win over Hibernian were scored by Willie Russell. Like his more illustrious colleagues who left for Newcastle and Rangers respectively, Russell went on to serve Preston for six seasons, playing alongside the famous Alex James.

He was like a breath of hot air.

Who is breaking all the seats at Starks Park?

This game was on in the pub on a screen with the sound turned down. Even with that, I could tell Boyd and Sutton were talking pish.

I'm believing @Alert Mongoose, he's rarely wrong.

Walton to blame for the Ayr goal, but Grimshaw's foul was stupid. Nonetheless, a good finish from Murphy. Walton redeemed himself later in the half with a point black stop, but I felt United dominated the first half with Middleton better than usual. But the rest of the forward and midfield sections disappointed, again. Second half Ayr at times put a bit of pressure on, but Watt and Fotheringham made the difference in my view, and Docherty's finish for the winner looked sublime from my addled perspective: this after I'd been mentally putting him down for a poor performance.

Was away to the seaside today, but posting to emphasise how emotional I got when the Warriors scored what turned out to be the winning goal. Whisky seemed to form in my eyes to the extent I missed an important counter at the match I'd stumbled into. Is it possible to love two women? Anyway, my grandpa, born in the 1890s, was smiling with me this afternoon. Happy. Love to all.

"The anti-semites"? It annoys me that the true meaning of antisemitism has been hijacked and changed in recent years, in any case it's been well documented that the Labour Party under Starmer has used this accusation wrongly against many of their own members.

@Molotov, the Buddies were two clear of Clydebank going into the cup game, and beat Dundee at home in their next league fixture. Don't think the Dee had topped the table since early in the season, although as you say they were favourites at the outset. There's a great app for Android phones on called 'Scottish Football League Info' which provides tables week by week over the seasons, and much more above, useful to confirm or more often deny memories of years gone by.

It was seen as a shock in my house, but I wasn't in Dundee in 1977. United had started the season well but had dipped and were down in fourth place. Leading up to the match I can't say I was overconfident, as away form had been patchy, but I expected a win. Cup 'shocks' seemed commonplace to me back then, so I can't recall thinking St Mirren would go on to great things. As it turned out, Fergie appears to have been the key to success.