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  1. 15 minutes ago, gannonball said:

    Being racist/sectarian can often be intwined with political displays, sadly even more these days but you can't blanket it all as the same hence why we keep getting constant nonsensical fines yet we haven't had a ban from Uefa of any real meaning, certainly not a points deduction. I think everyone knows the UEFA system is a bit of whip round for them really. They obviously do take action over actual racist actions eventually but you simply can't give it the same sanctions as political gestures.

     

    Eh? A club appeals something that they don't believe they are guilty of, automatically makes them guilty?

    Clearly, that's not what I've written. No mention of appeals from me, and if you think the board at Parkhead are in agreement with the "sentiments" expressed by some Celtic fans in song and deed, you've been living on the moon. 

  2. 25 minutes ago, gannonball said:

    It isn't that simple. If something isn't deemed racist/sectarian etc by the courts I'm not sure how a footballing body can decide it is. If a club/player thinks they are being unfairly treated they are still allowed to go above that body. It's a bit of a minefield to them really but if they were ever to try and clamp down on it.

    It is that simple: if either of the two OF clubs went to court to argue against a football authority charge which involved sectarian behaviour, as soon as they took such an action it would underline what we all know. That is, both clubs rely on bigots in a large way for their incomes. And these two know it. 

  3. I hope supporters don't do a pitch invasion in the event of a home win. Leaving aside the wee embarrassment in doing that, it may prevent players from getting a deserved applause from the fans. 

    But on the plus side, if numbers do go on the pitch, it'll be easier to get out the ground and into the pub. 

  4. Going to this game with huge anticipation: just in case, I'll also make sure I get to the Elgin match. If the Warriors can keep up the uncertain form should the Bonnyrigg game on 27th be pencilled in too?

    Ref for Saturday appears to be Ryan Lee, who has covered 4 Warriors' games this season, 3 wins (Stranraer away, and home wins v Forfar and Dumbarton), and the game nobody went to, a defeat against a B side in the Challenge Cup.

  5. Was very confident prior to the games, more so when I saw the team selection from Raith....(why was Hamilton not playing instead of Rudden, or Byrne instead of Turner?)  but when I noted McClelland was making a debut appearance inside young Thomson, my bravado took a wee knock, and I feel if Rovers had got an early goal United may well have collapsed. 

    Watt changed that with his fine finish, and I don't think United really looked in any danger after that. 

    In other matches, Raith had impressed me with their midfield performances, but that was missing today. Often this season, I've criticised Goodwin for overthinking team choices, but it appears Murray was the guilty party this afternoon.

    Nonetheless, Goodwin was forced into playing an unfamiliar defence, and that turned out to be to United's advantage: no fannying about at the back from Ross Graham and Sam McClelland.

  6. 45 minutes ago, Tannadeechee said:

    Speaking to someone in the know, the drop in tickets is due to requests from police to leave the front 6 rows clear as they fear the potential of Raith fans on the pitch should they win. Whether that is justified or not that is what United have been advised and what has been passed to Raith.

    As such, it is a drop in tickets from previous game, but similar number to what away fans should be getting in the Fair Play Enclosure, but that is shut until the summer when some maintenance is planned, as home fans were supposed to be behind the goal.

    A good bit earlier in this thread, folk were shooting down the possibility of Police Scotland having any say in operational issues at Tannadice, even although every single game in the SPFL has to have an appointed 'Event Policing Lead'. The more high profile the match, the more the police will get involved in advance. It's easier than catching criminals.

    I've little doubt you'll get shot down for writing this, so I'll emphasise it needn't have turned out this way, as United could have foreseen the end of the season could have placed demands on the capacity limits they've contributed to by their decision to close off the Fair Play Stand.

  7. Agree with @Tannadeechee above, nonetheless I've spoken to fans who have sat behind Goodwin at away games, and contrary to the majority view that he's negative and does little during matches to influence players and the game, they insist he is positive, coaxing the team forward, encouraging faster movement on the ball, and talking specific players through the game. 

    I've not witnessed that, and don't think Goodwin will ultimately be at Tannadice for long, yet there's no reason, you'd think, for these fans to make this up.

  8. 11 hours ago, Burattino Di Calzini said:

    Aye, did he not quit football as he was going to make more money in the polis? A scorer in a European Cup semi final as well. Different times

    Looked back at his timeline: Derek Stark was eventually forced to quit due to persistent knee problems over the whole of his final season, 83-84. A cartilage cyst finally ended his football career. He had looked to join the police a couple of seasons earlier, and left the club briefly, but had then signed his first full time contract in 1982.

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    Stark had signed as a 16 year old in 1975, and remained part time, working as a coachbuilder until 1981.

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