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Clearly, that's not what I've written. No mention of appeals from me, and if you think the board at Parkhead are in agreement with the "sentiments" expressed by some Celtic fans in song and deed, you've been living on the moon.

It is that simple: if either of the two OF clubs went to court to argue against a football authority charge which involved sectarian behaviour, as soon as they took such an action it would underline what we all know. That is, both clubs rely on bigots in a large way for their incomes. And these two know it.

It doesn't matter what the courts can't agree on: the SPFL/SFA can impose penalties on clubs as and when they see fit. They're shit scared to do so in the case of the Glasgow Twins.

I'm thinking you mean Ross Docherty, but it'd be good to get a fee for Goodwin.

You should find unconfirmed information here: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dundee-united-fc/kader/verein/1519/saison_id/2023/plus/1 Beware: Birighitti is still on the list.

I hope supporters don't do a pitch invasion in the event of a home win. Leaving aside the wee embarrassment in doing that, it may prevent players from getting a deserved applause from the fans. But on the plus side, if numbers do go on the pitch, it'll be easier to get out the ground and into the pub.

The Liverpool link is tenuous at best, a stats company has made a calculation and contacted the media, I doubt Liverpool's owners FSG have any involvement in this tale.

A couple more: really emotional day.

A few photos from today

UK00002264673 is the Old Firm trademark with Celtic and the present Rangers registered as joint owners at the Intellectual Property Office (02/03/2021).

Going to this game with huge anticipation: just in case, I'll also make sure I get to the Elgin match. If the Warriors can keep up the uncertain form should the Bonnyrigg game on 27th be pencilled in too? Ref for Saturday appears to be Ryan Lee, who has covered 4 Warriors' games this season, 3 wins (Stranraer away, and home wins v Forfar and Dumbarton), and the game nobody went to, a defeat against a B side in the Challenge Cup.

I've been on the other side of Australia: is your side really boring?

Dens and Tannadice earlier this month viewed from Main Street looking over the site of the Bowbridge Jute Works. From 1927, aerial view of the Bowbridge Jute Works with Dens and Tannadice uppermost.

Was very confident prior to the games, more so when I saw the team selection from Raith....(why was Hamilton not playing instead of Rudden, or Byrne instead of Turner?) but when I noted McClelland was making a debut appearance inside young Thomson, my bravado took a wee knock, and I feel if Rovers had got an early goal United may well have collapsed. Watt changed that with his fine finish, and I don't think United really looked in any danger after that. In other matches, Raith had impressed me with their midfield performances, but that was missing today. Often this season, I've criticised Goodwin for overthinking team choices, but it appears Murray was the guilty party this afternoon. Nonetheless, Goodwin was forced into playing an unfamiliar defence, and that turned out to be to United's advantage: no fannying about at the back from Ross Graham and Sam McClelland.

What a laugh when I saw this on the telly. I know both these guys.

I doubt he is, given several previous posts he made. To the game: if I was anybody but a United fan, I'd be wanting Rovers to win this, in the same way I rooted for QP, Arbroath and dare I say it, Dundee, over the last 3 seasons.

A good bit earlier in this thread, folk were shooting down the possibility of Police Scotland having any say in operational issues at Tannadice, even although every single game in the SPFL has to have an appointed 'Event Policing Lead'. The more high profile the match, the more the police will get involved in advance. It's easier than catching criminals. I've little doubt you'll get shot down for writing this, so I'll emphasise it needn't have turned out this way, as United could have foreseen the end of the season could have placed demands on the capacity limits they've contributed to by their decision to close off the Fair Play Stand.

Agree with @Tannadeechee above, nonetheless I've spoken to fans who have sat behind Goodwin at away games, and contrary to the majority view that he's negative and does little during matches to influence players and the game, they insist he is positive, coaxing the team forward, encouraging faster movement on the ball, and talking specific players through the game. I've not witnessed that, and don't think Goodwin will ultimately be at Tannadice for long, yet there's no reason, you'd think, for these fans to make this up.

Looked back at his timeline: Derek Stark was eventually forced to quit due to persistent knee problems over the whole of his final season, 83-84. A cartilage cyst finally ended his football career. He had looked to join the police a couple of seasons earlier, and left the club briefly, but had then signed his first full time contract in 1982. Stark had signed as a 16 year old in 1975, and remained part time, working as a coachbuilder until 1981.

83. PC Stark scored against Roma and played his last ever game that same month.

Unusual image from 1988:

Scotland u23s, 1971:

Scotland 1961: back: Bobby Shearer, Eric Caldow, Frank Haffey, Billy McNeill, Bert McCann, David Mackay front: Johnny MacLeod, Denis Law, Ian St John, Pat Quinn, Davie Wilson, Duncan Mackay.

Thanks for your expert insight. Or are you simply hijacking this match to have a crowd w**k?

Bit of an own goal that: To be fair, it applies more to United than Dundee this season.