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Hurlford used Hyster works/amateur team when they returned after a season's abeyance.
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Chris Strain and Craig McEwan will be in some mood now ffs
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53 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:
You say it was ‘foolish’ but several clubs would have played on had their players not demanded the massive wages they pay them, instead pulled out on ‘player safety’ grounds and then let players go out on loan, which goes against the ‘player safety’ decision they took as employers. Clubs made their decisions, it was reasonable given the infection/death rates before october to play as all indications were a decline in the virus, that said clubs who sat the season out for whatever reason be it genuine concern for safety or not have made their decision and thats entirely their right, but imo they shouldnt have any influence over what happens with this season now as they decided not to compete.
Entirely the decision of the player if he wanted to play this season. Kilbirnie have players that went in loan , players that left completely , players that are not playing at all. Their call. The club said we are not competing this season ....if you wish to play go to another club and they can be responsible for your welfare. The loan deals are basically we would like you to return next season but really it's up to you. Clubs just like players took the decisions whether to play or not.. entirely their perogative...there is no right or wrong...they were allowed to play if they wished but aye agree clubs not competing this season really should have no influence over what happens this season
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Jeez Chris Strain and Craig McEwan will be in a right huff if the season is suspended
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These all weather pitches are great at allowing you to play in all weather's
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On 21/12/2020 at 09:09, passbackdave said:
Aye cos use play great football on grass lol use aint the great passing tommy bryce side anymore
Mon the papersIn fairness to Bankies plastic might just aboot be a tad better than the grass pitch yous had...a wee bit safer and softer.
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3 hours ago, WilliamBragg said:
Sad day for football.
Absolutely loved him at Beith.
Along with Sal, Ian Balmer and Stuart Hodge my original football heroes.
RIP wee man.
Sal , Bambam , McIlroy and Jim Clarke goals in abundance.
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Sad sad news. Won Scottish Cup with Kilbirnie in 1977 and later a coach. Was also a fantastic player for Beith , Winton , Saltcoats etc. Was still playing over 50s until not long ago funny man will be sadly missed
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2 hours ago, Shanner said:
it there even a grain of evidence of the bit in bold? it reads like the paranoid ramblings of an absolute heidcase to be honest.
As far as I can see people have perfectly legitimate concerns around the financial sense of playing with no income and the obvious health aspect of the virus.
Nah don't believe any of the clubs in abeyance are hoping for the pyramid to fail. My own club were no happy about the no fans aspect along with asking/expecting players to play for fun having already agreed contracts never mind the health of players and committee , one has been suffering long term effects from the virus.
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7 hours ago, glensmad said:
You are correct, I stupidly forgot that games were played in January to March this year.
But postponements in December, January and February are really not a new invention are they ?
Still accept a postponed game before a plastic pitch.
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Nope but he was at an old firm legends game played at the Vale.
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On 14/12/2020 at 16:03, glensmad said:
...teams like Troon who are top of the league having won 5 and drawn 1 of their 6 games so far....
Aye that Troon. Who have they beaten ?... honestly don't have a clue
Last season they couldnae beat themselves
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5 minutes ago, glensmad said:
To be fair, we've had a really tough run of fixtures to start with.
Away to Hurlford, led at half time but ran out of legs second half due to lack of games (3 weeks without a game while Hurlford had been playing right through, their superior fitness told in the end, but needed a penalty to beat us.)
Home to Bonnyton, won that one, although we left it late.
Home to Troon, dominated the match but lost out by the odd goal in three, despite playing with ten men for the last half hour.
Away to Clydebank, soundly beaten by the best side I've seen this season. The only game we've let ourselves down in my opinion.
Away to Troon, very unfortunate to lose on the balance of play and chances in the game.
So we have played 5 games, with 3 of them against the two teams who are top of the league with 10 wins out of 11 games between them, one other away to Hurlford who will be up near the top competing, and one against the bottom side which we've won. It's been a tough schedule, and we have another title contender this Saturday with Darvel due to visit us. That's just the way the fixtures work out, I suppose.
Aye fair enough but if you added clubs like Talbot , Glenafton etc you really would not be able to afford to lose to teams like Troon them games would have been massive.... especially if it was 7 down as originally planned.
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On 12/12/2020 at 21:29, glensmad said:
We'll never know that for sure as we had half of our season still to play and we'd only lost one match in 2020 up till lockdown. We were in good form at the time and were confident of staying up with the games in hand we had and the huge number of home games we had left against the teams around us. I guess we'll never know for sure. But the same could be said for the other teams who were in the relegation zone. It's a pointless debate which nobody can definitively prove they are correct on either side. But regardless of what happened last season or this one, we'll be in the Premier Division again next season as well.
Aye strange times took Glencairn many seasons and few near misses to get promotion...now they are there can't get bloody rid of them no matter how poor they are
Glens v Troon might have been a conference match had last season not ended abruptly though Glens were playing some good stuff and getting results prior to lockdown. Personally thought they would have escaped relegation with guys like McKay returning from injury. Dunno what the reason for poor results this season as they look to have a decent squad.
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12 hours ago, Bestsinceslicebread said:
Honestly i need to ask, is there something wrong with you, do you need help reading posts to make sure you understand what the post is saying because you actually keep making things up
Where the hell does it say I SAID or STATED (Anyway still don't see how WOSFL players could conceivably be in a bubble as you make out when they have to go and work during the week...despite them being professional footballers of course ) . You've made comments in your past couple of posts which i have dissected to prove that you are wrong. Told you why these teams are still considered professional teams in the professional league and told you why fans are not allowed in. I'm not a fictional character making fictional things up, they are all known factsAhahaha only because you are so fecking serious honestly behave chill out , have a nice Xmas .. remember keep to a bubble...enjoy your fitba. Hopefully the real pros like Hurlford Thistle will be back playing soon
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3 hours ago, Bestsinceslicebread said:
Queens Park were amateur and only officially paid their players travelling money and money for their training gear etc... and they were in the professional set up for a very long time and even under current conditions if they were still amateurs, they still would have been in the current professional pyramid system
Never said supporters cannot be traced, but the work and organizing them inside the grounds is a big task as right now, its a big, intricate task for most clubs to arrange systems for the use of dressing rooms
Again I never mentioned Ardeer or Saltcoats but lets get it strait, they are part of the WOSFL which comes under the remit of the Lowland League and essentially the SFA which means they are part of the professional pyramid system.
No matter what, any team that has arranged to continue in the WOSFL and arranged to not pay their players are still part of the professional set up
Any of the teams who withdrew this season are still past of the WOSFL, meaning they are still part of the Professional pyramid system.Guess what, junior football was still considered part time professional football, as they also paid their players.
Aye a know Queens Park were amateur aye a know juniors were considered professional yet Queens players were getting more money as amateur than Ardeer players as professional. Anyway still don't see how WOSFL players could conceivably be in a bubble as you make out when they have to go and work during the week...despite them being professional footballers of course
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1 hour ago, Bestsinceslicebread said:
Again, supporter is not traced
Supporters are not allowed in to stands by the government, and even when fans will be allowed in, I suspect each club would have to submit a blueprint of working methodology of how to keep fans socially distanced within the club grounds, supporter track and trace. and how workings of half time and refreshment areas, toilet facilities are worked etc... and thats only samples of workings to organize. The same goes for the junior teams left in the East West Lothian leagues.
Only now are WOS clubs submitting their blueprint for the use of their dressing rooms, so each submission form each club will be scrutinized individually
if players are not taking wages they are basically amateurs and amateurs are banned. Wonder if that happened or would happen to Queens Park in the pyramid.
The teams in the WOS are in the Scottish Senior Pyramid system so that's why those teams who have arranged with their players that no payments are made can still play footballQueens Park are not amateur.
If players can be traced so could supporters.
Too call players at Ardeer or Saltcoats as professional is a nonsense.
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On 06/12/2020 at 13:55, Bestsinceslicebread said:
I think you just called it yourself.
Yes I believe you are correct in some ways but difference is. Each person of team in the WOS is checked for temperature and all contact details are held. Each home team does this, (they check both home and away players and officials). They wont hold the contact numbers of the away players but will have the Covid officer of the away clubs hold the contact numbers which the Covid officer in turn can then supply numbers if there is a positive case. So that means they are in a bubble of some sort.
Any fan going to watch a game outside a park, is not temperature checked, is not known and no contact details listed so if he stands beside another fan or neutral they can infect each other with no way of tracing them.I was at a game recently and on the outside fence there were 15 people watching, 10 of them standing together, side by side. One official went out to ask them to leave and was told to (feck off). If one of those 15 fans or neutrals watching has Covid then a good chance some or most of the 15 watching fans will contract it and spread it. There is no control on this so this is why all fans are told to stay away until some control package / criteria can be announced.
Should football been cancelled this season at these levels, there's a lot of merit for a yes and lot of merit for a no.
Should the government have opened the pubs and universities like they did a few months back, there's merit for a yes and merit for a no.
in the months since march or even before, this pandemic is new to every single person living on this world and we are all trying to adapt and deal with it, as in individuals, families, friends, governments, countries and no one has the best solution yetAye ok yet a supporter who may well have had a test himself and come back negative still can't attend. If players are not taking wages they are basically amateur at the moment and amateur is banned. Anyway all the best.
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13 hours ago, jimbaxters said:
They should have taken complete responsibility and made the decision for the good of the game at this level. You can't form a leadership committee and then work via concensus. Leaders were voted in, not facilitators. Every piece of correspondence which has emerged has felt like this. If it's not "let the clubs decide" it's "that decision was down to the SFA".
The way this year has gone it should have been a no-brainer to wait until fans were allowed to watch. To have 40 odd people travelling across the west of scotland (or beyond in the case of the SSC) is a folly. No matter how many clubs wanted to play.
There was a part of me that felt clubs should have been allowed to play if they wanted but the fact that the Glasgow region went into Level 4 restrictions and the committee still used the "professional" angle was an utter disgrace. Those in favour of playing can kid themselves on that the games being played have not contributed to any spread if they want but it's bound to have done.
"The clubs wanted it" is a cop out.
Aye correct. There is no difference between a group of untested players congregating on a fitba park than a group of untested supporters congregating on the sidelines. If one is not allowed neither should the other. Funny how it's professional but not when it comes to National Minimum wage. Players can drive from Glasgow to Darvel yet a life long supporter can't stroll Doon the brae to even watch the players in action from ootside the ground. Ludicrous.
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On 26/11/2020 at 15:31, WilliamBragg said:
Kenny McLean has rejoined for his third spell at the club and is available for our tie with Clydebank.
Is the wee grumbleweed joining the committee , they could be doing with some experience
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Maybole are paying £100 a week..to who ? Forget Carlo Walker you could get Carlo Monti for that ffs
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13 hours ago, gaswork said:
Have to laugh at those supporters of teams who have nothing better to do now than come on here day after day with negative comments, desperate for the vast majority of clubs with a backbone who are playing for them to fail. Utterly tragic behaviour.
Chief suspects being the snowflakes from kilbirnie who have a weird bizarre arrogant superiority attitude of being better than everyone else when really they are deluded and stuck in a time warp.
Take up a hobby ffs give it a rest and let the proper football clubs and supporters enjoy the football this season without your nonsense.
Kilbirnie, snowflakes !!!? ...that's a turnaround in perception from P&B posters ...and our fans are now angels...we have worked hard on our image ...happy it's now being recognised
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1 hour ago, BANKIEBILL said:
I think it would be perfectly reasonable to at first restrict those attending to home fans only - then if the virus begins to recede take it from there. Of course streaming would also help to cater for those unable therefore to travel
Home fans only to begin with is the way forward however once a club starts making money surely players who have agreed to play for nothing or nearly nothing should start being paid as per contract. Would reduced gates/hospitality etc not have impact on clubs ?
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Says Kennie who was against the Super Leagues and wanted to retain Ayrshire Leagues......and local Ardagh Cup sections. Changing agendas
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Majority of initial players were there for Mick because Mick believed in the project and they believe in Mick. Don't see what the problem is with that. Darvel would have been well aware these players are coming for the manager Swift attracted really good players to Kilbirnie the majority past teammates and friends. There's no doubt guys like playing under Mick if you can attract players with quality of Darren Miller to an amateur club like Colville then you have something about you. Would players leave if Mick left ? Probably depends if he takes another job