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Yeah, I thought about that, but my gut feel is there are probably enough people playing it worldwide for his achievements to qualify. It's not an exact science, as neither is the whole debate, which is why anyone coming up with "Andy Murray, close thread" or versions of that is either a bit ignorant or looking for reassurance. The one on my list who definitely should be excluded on the minority sport criterion is Chris Hoy. The number of people who have seriously tried his sport is relatively tiny. That's not to detract from his achievements. I know he will have been as dedicated and intense in his training and preparation as anyone else being mooted. Not to mention mental aspects.

I've excluded anyone who was successful in minority sports (so that excludes Stephen Hendry, John Higgins and drivers - just don't think their achievements justify inclusion versus world class success in what I consider genuine world sports). I've only gone for one female, Liz McColgan, so I feel I may have overlooked some others due to my relative lack of knowledge - Rose Reilly should be nowhere near the list IMO. Alan Wells Denis Law Andy Murray Robert Millar David Wilkie Ken Buchanan Liz McColgan Peter Nicol Kenny Dalglish Sandy Lyle

Not much bigger than amateur ones tbf. You are.

Well that's fair cheered me up.

Those intricacies are outlined and explained in detail on a big lump of stone standing at Gartmorn Dam. It's a bugger updating it each close season.

Status relating to individual players or the team being in third place?

We'll need to agree to disagree on Robbo, Kevchenko. For me we've been weak defensively at left back and Cammy was a bombscare there on Tue. I can't remember Jon losing the ball all game (I'd far rather he passed the ball back or sideways to a team mate, rather than punt the ball aimlessly forwards when a forward pass isn't on - that's not negative, it's what a good footballer does), or making a significant defensive error It looked to me like Miko was maybe going to come on anyway before Neill broke down, but perhaps that was going to be precautionary re Morgyn. I thought myself like you that he was possibly coming on for LD.

Go Andy!

Robbo was about ten times better today than Cammy was at Kelty; he was just Robbo, a solid, composed performance. We were poor, no doubt about it and I agree we look pretty ordinary when Wales and Steven are out. Unlike Kelty I thought Queens started nervously and if we score that early chance (which we certainly should have), I could have seen us dominating. We didn't though and they played their way into the game, Mumbongo giving them a focal point and threat, grew in confidence and deserved to go in ahead. We were better second half, but QotS defended well and looked every bit as dangerous as we did (which wasn't difficult). I felt our only real threat was Buchanan and, laterally , Coulson on the wings. Queens finished the stronger (our subs seemed a bit haphazard); a big win for them and the battle to stay out of ninth is looking very interesting. Hopefully we can bounce back next week against Annan, but clearly they are in form and we will need to play well to get back on track. PS Cheers Messrs Offord, Henderson and O'Hara.

Seems like weak credit control procedures in place. Probably not even reviewing customers' credit scores or sending out increasingly firm automatic reminders when a debt goes overdue.

Tell me about it.

*shudders* Re punting balls to Sammo, I do wonder why that is given he rarely controls them and isn't very good in the air.

He's not alone there.

Kudos to Tidser and his players last night. Out played and out fought us from the first whistle. Deserved win. I really liked the aggression you played with. Johnston seems to epitomize that - anytime I see him, he's a handful. Not sure what he's like on an ongoing basis? Was also interested to see Stefan McCluskey at right back and looking so comfortable there.

Kelty were excellent last night. Fired up from the first whistle, never let us settle and played a lot of good stuff. Exactly the sort of performance that was needed in their circumstances. From Saturday's point of view, I'd expect a positive reaction from the Alloa players. Bobby Wales will miss that one too though and we'll likely play Sammo or Roy in his place, which weakens us.

Very much this. Our next two home games look "easier" on paper, but both Annan and QotS have to win games now. I expect both to be battles (yes, even against Marvin Bartley's side).

As I mentioned, last night was a game which would have suited them, Miko in particular. Saturday's game likely to be different, but I'd be tempted to start one of them.

On which note, Brian Rice was at the game, standing behind the Kelty end goals. Hey, it's all about opinions! Personally I thought Scougs (and Kurtis) did OK. Kelty's midfield deserve the credit for nullifying them.

Outplayed and outfought by a good Kelty Hearts side last night. They were at us from the first whistle and we never got going first half at all; eleven shots to nil tells that story. We had defended OK in our box and that plus some poor Kelty finishing meant we got to half-time 0-0. Started much better in the second half and when Cammy scored I felt we would go on to get more. We didn't press home that advantage though and Kelty, to their credit, regrouped and got their deserved reward, although both goals were poorly defended from an Alloa point of view, plus the first in particular carrying some luck. I agree Sammo was poor first half, but I though he did well in the second. LD was more ineffectual, a buzzing Cawley or Scougs would have been better in there (it was a game which would have suited Miko's aggression). As expected Wales a big loss to our style of play. Have to feel sorry for Cammy despite his goal. That's too many games this season when we have been weak down his flank - not his fault, he isn't a natural left back - but surely Andy G will address that weakness in the close season. On the subject of full backs, Stefan McCluskey looked the part deeper. We just need to bounce back against QotS. Let's see what Andy does to counter Bobby Goals absence then. Personally I'd rest Sammo and LD.

Just watched the whole thing, hadn't seen it for years - it's every bit as good as I remembered. Eric Morecambe's applause at the end shows, I think, how good he thought Previn was. My Dad was a big M&W fan and watching it again I could picture him laughing. A nice memory.

This.

I should have been a professional. My golf was never boring.

Because it's irrelevant and boring?

Games against Queens are never easy.