If I remember correctly some of those meetings in Airdrie workmens were simply shameful! The carry on of some people who just spent time arguing about pointless issues whilst seeing Archibald (who's football I enjoyed immensly) as some sort of messiah when he did not have 2 coins to rub together were as divisive as they were helpful! I will never forget the first meeting with Ballantyne in the Tudor, that to me seemed the first time we were all heading in the correct direction together. Whether Livi have someone to provide a focal point remains to be seen.