stonedsailor

So the were not assigned a position in division 3 when they applied for entry to the league system?

Were they assigned a lower position or rank than they held in the SPL when they were admitted to the 3rd division?

I am glad we agree. A new club was admitted to the lower division. Or, were they assigned a lower rank or position in the Scottish league set up when admitted to the lower division per chance?

Sorry. Let's go by the definition from Cambridge then "Transfer (a sports team) to a lower division" We're Rangers transferred to a lower division?

So what happened then? Rangers were in the top division and ended up in the bottom division. I can't see how you can deny this.

This uber Diddy has already declared that if Coral are forced to pay out then it will have been proved in a court of law that Rangers are the same club. If Coral are forced to pay out then it proves the club were relegated. If, on the other hand, Coral win then it proves that the original club were not put into a lower division per the definition, of both Oxford and Cambridge dictionaries, of relegation. Would you like me to repost the definitions or are you happy enough that if a sports team is moved to a lower division of the league it has been relegated?

Every decision? What about the TUPE rebels and the international clearance issued by FIFA and the SFA or the SFA's decision that Rangers right to arbitration over the TUPE rebels was not transferable to Rangers? Amongst others.

Can I go back to typing a "*" instead of the full word "asterisk"? Or are you still offended by *s

The death of Scottish football, and football's deterioration in general still interests me, the game itself not so much. Just look at the proven corruption from FIFA all the way down. I am glad my views on the matter amuse you.

I have given up. I have moved on. The game is a bogey. I am glad you laughed out loud. You are not laughing at me, you are laughing at the death of Scottish football. My back is turned on the sport now. I lost most of the passion I had for the game in 1994 to be honest. I never realised then but the "franchise football" taunt aimed at ICT was a rot spreading through the game. Look at the Rangers franchise, the original club ended up consigned to liquidation and their brand, their franchise sold to another company. The game is decayed as much as Ibrox Stadium. I have a team to support every week too but they are as soulless as new Rangers.

It has also exposed the utter incompetence in those who run our game and the incredible bias that there is towards two clubs, two clubs who have built their business by tapping into hatred. Prior to this clubs were allowed to die, names had to be changed for some semblance of continuation, Airdrieonians; Gretna; Clydebank; etc. even English clubs jumped on the bandwagon, Middlesbrough changed the date on their badge from 1986 back to the original date. Fiorentina, Parma, Timisoara and many others are forced to show recognition of their refoundation. Then there was the lack title stripping, years of cheating and the titles were allowed to stand. The game is a bogey, the champions of Scotland title is worthless it is not won by whomever can afford the best sports team, it is won by whoever can keep their overspending hidden for the longest. The unity shown by fans of other teams was astounding but it achieved nothing other than showing that paying £20+ a ticket is pointless in a fixed sport. Far better off saving that money and watching real sportsmen for two weeks with a trip to the TT on the Isle of Man.

Will the Bradford Bulls fans start sending death threats; IEDs; bullets etc to any journalist who dares use the 2017 suffix in reports? Will they march on the headquarters of the inferior rugby's governing body? Or, will they just get on with it and accept that they have a club to support?

He never even leathered the Hibs fan. It was a fresh air shot.

They must be confused. The club is still the Bradford Bulls. It's the company that's called Bradford Bulls 2017.

He was only guarding the Rangers players.

Sorry, missed the tone there a bit. Makes sense now.

Do you not prefer to have the facts at hand during a discussion? There is nothing worse than having to go check up on the claims of a purported "expert". Too many times I have been caught out repeating what someone has told me only to end up looking like a fool because I trusted their word. These discussions are interesting, I have learned quite a bit. Learning is what life is all about, is it not?

Is an IBAS ruling legally enforceable? No, they are not. However, we are in a new era now where bets are seen as binding contracts, so as an adjudication body, the independent view of the panel would have some weight in any legal dispute between a company and customer. http://www.ibas-uk.com/faq_cust.php Nope. But it can be used as part of a court case. What was your position in the betting industry?

I find that the ones who try to end the discussion in that way are those who really don't want to hear the facts. I can never understand why people don't just avoid the topics they don't like without getting all upset. Almost as bad as those who scream for threads to be closed but can't help themselves reading them. If you don't like something on TV you change the channel, you don't go writing to ofcom to get it removed from broadcast. ETA just realised he's an asteriskasteriskasterisk he's probably never done writing complaints to anyone that he thinks is not Rangers minded.

It's a discussion board. Can't we discuss stuff?

I get what you are saying, where would I find the rules which state this?

No need to apologise.

The champions league thing is wrong. Their European club licence was withdrawn as soon as they were placed in administration.

Eh? A new club starts and is admitted to the league. How can a new club be relegated if it has never held a position in the league previously? When ICT started they were not promoted into the league set up, they were admitted but have suffered relegation since.

They will make a judgement on the contract. Betting slip in other words.