LIVIFOREVER

As shite as we've been this season, we've beaten Raith and Partick Thistle in cup games, that's 2 of the current top 4 teams in the Championship, keeping 12 or 13 of our best players and adding a few that are able to play at that level and we'd be competitive enough to stay up. Would have to see what shape we're in at the start of next season before getting my hopes up for anything more than that.

Great name, hope he's a future first team player.

Aye, I don't think they knew themselves how they got promoted, it was as much a shock to them, and they weren't really prepared for playing in the Championship.

Opens up another debate, do you just donate to the poor people in Scotland, or deserving causes in other Countries.

Both of us came into the Championship the same season, we won League One and they won the play offs, we got promoted to the Premiership the following season through the play offs and they were relegated back to League One, then onto a downward spiral towards the trapdoor. I mention this because we beat them up there to go 13pts ahead of Alloa with 5 games to go, and one of their fans shouted enjoy promotion you'll be straight back down the following season. Football banter, you canny whack it.

I used to watch it a fair bit, same with CL and other European comps, but i slowly lost interest in them, and rarely watch any English games now, and haven't watched any CL games for a few years now. In fact i was getting free BT sports with my internet and tv package and still didn't watch the CL games, then i just cancelled it when they started charging me for it. Maybe supporting Livi and being up and down every league in the SPFL has something to do with it, and given me more interest in Scottish leagues. I like watching the Fri night lower league games, maybe i was subconsciously preparing myself for us playing in them next season.

Aye I had George Best football boots and a Man Utd top. In the 70's and 80's when Scotland qualified for WC's on a regular basis you also had a lot of our players playing in English teams, Leeds Utd, Notts Forrest, Man Utd, Liverpool etc were full of them. I also liked watching the football firsts program on a Sunday, but iirc they cancelled that the year Livi got relegated from the SPL, the b*****ds.

Yeah i was including his influence under Hoppy and Holt too, Martindale was signing players after Hoppy left, and before Miller, then Holt got appointed, i think he has to be credited a lot for our success in the seasons before he became manager in his own right. Along with the backroom staff, Martindale kept things virtually seamless from Hoppy to Holt, via Miller's short spell. It started going downhill the 2nd half of last season but we'd done well enough the 1st half to still finish comfortably up. And this season has been a continuation of how we finished the season.

St Margarets Academy is the best place for parking, short walk to the stadium and easy getaway after the game.

I've watched the odd MoTD, that little when i looked at the bbc results page over the weekend , i had no idea it was so close still between 3 teams. Haven't watched any CL games either, in fact i've watched more Fri night Scottish games between lower league teams than EPL games. I have more interest in how the Scottish divisions are all panning out than giving a f**k about English games. Quite like all the SPFL play offs too.

It's a difficult one, from the outside looking at what he's done at Livi it was incredible, but for Livi fans the last 2 seasons have been a tough watch, he's used up all his good will for past accomplishments now. If he does stay on for next season, he isn't going to get any slack from the fans if he doesn't start with positive results, he'll have a job getting them back onside. Not sure if he'd consider going to a DoF position taking a backseat, but his signings this season haven't been great either, especially in defence, or maybe if he had a fresh start at another club, and a bigger playing budget, he'd get his mojo back.

Think we'd both be better if England didn't exist, c***s stuck their oar in to both our Countries.

You've got Irish immigrants all over the world, is there religious intolerance between Catholics and Protestants in the other Countries they've settled in, and if so anywhere near as bad as Scotland's?

If religion in Ireland never existed certainly. The world might be a better place without religion too, but then again the human race would prob just find some other thing to fight about. Decades ago when i was a boy, you had folk wanting to kick your head in just for coming from another town a few miles away from your own, went to Bathgate swimming pool with my big brother and his pal and we got jumped on our way to the bus station for coming from Whitburn. Was also up in Fauldhouse playing golf and was accosted by a gang asking me if i was from Fauldhouse, course i said yes, and they followed me all the way to my Granny's house in Barton Terrace, even if i wasn't lucky enough to have a Granny staying there i'd have been walking into a strangers house to avoid a kicking.

Yeah the 90 min bigots narrative and casual sectarianism is somehow seen as acceptable by erse cheek fans that sing their songs. I don't think you can totally dismiss Scotland's religious intolerance when it has Orange Orders, they are as much anti Catholic as pro Protestant, and delight in taunting Catholics with their marches, the trying to burst their drum when passing a Catholic Church patter being a well known practice.

Is there an Old Firm since 2012 plaque?

Thought it was the lyrics to Pop Muzik.

Munich.

West Lothian is rife with Glasgow overspill settlers, and Orange Order Lodges dotted all over the place.

Gave us results against most teams, the press from Pittman and Byrne was a joy to watch, that 3-2 away win against Utd in the promotion play offs was as good as it got, Byrne harried back and forth till he forced a mistake then we burst forward and scored. I like the way Simon Murray plays, would've been ideal in the Livi sides from our first 4 seasons up. Anderson plays a good pressing game too but Martindale seems to have fallen out with him, we're down to the bare bones now with Yengi suspended and Nouble, Shinnie and Guthrie injured, all of whom got picked ahead of Anderson starting up front, wouldn't surprise me if he played Pittman or Stephen Kelly up front instead of Anderson though. Pressure is off now, so would be good to see us having an attacking line up, and going for goals.

Glad we got there eventually, not much more has happened for any new questions to be asked.

One doesn't excuse the other, but this is the kind of whataboutery The Rangers and Celtic fans go to whenever this behaviour is brought up. That and none of them ever admits to singing or being involved in sectarianism themselves, and always use that excuse to deflect any criticism from supporting teams steeped in it.

This was how i was hoping the fixtures would land post split, when i was deluded enough to think we still had a chance, would've been a tasty fixture had we still something to play for. Now though, all we have left is games against the 11th, 10th & 9th placed teams having a bit of a say in who finishes 11th. For LOLS Aberdeen would be my preference, because they've never been relegated, but have a feeling it'll be St Johnstone. Can't see anything other than a County win, hopefully we make some kind of effort and score a goal or 2, our defence will no doubt be posting missing for a few County goals though.

Same law firm that cocked up the presentation on Hogarth's case, must give him and Sumner encouragement.