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Tbh Dundee fans love Caniggia etc - they love that knowing that that fucked over so many people in Dundee and peoples livelihoods and businesses - they celebrate those times and do not even take any of the above into consideration So it is a bit of a brass neck when you go on about that

I actually do look forward to it I’m not overly in to McIntyre but I am happy watching Arbroath knowing we may well go down a pub league or maybe win a pub league

We know Simon x To be honest I’ve prioritised other things over the football, mainly because I hate watching football when it’s not competitive - we have been down for ages Spent day in pub in Forfar with family and very happy about my decision to But I can tell we’ve absolutely given up the ghost we are getting shagged rotten, it’s quite impressive at how bad we are being

I mean…. I didn’t even care about todays result but it’s still extremely disappointing and to be honest with you absolutely fuckin shite Not good Grim

Not had one for a while Saturday May 3rd 2014 - Airdrie away defeated 2-0 - funnily enough nearly bang on 10 years - it’ll be exactly 10 years on last day of season

Fkn hell. I’ve just braved looking at the table for the first time in a long time, it does not make pretty reading so I have been avoiding it as much as possible but was genuinely amazed at how comfortable you are looking for 4th spot and the play offs. That is a great achievement from Rhys McCabe, I will happily admit at the start of the season I really was not buying it - kind of had a good idea who a lot of your players were and thought you’d be a tidy team but at the back the lack of pace and physicality would maybe kill you a bit. When you rolled up to Gayfield early doors and had Craig Watson right back, ATS and Fordyce centre half and McCabe sitting in front it looked to me like I had thought right. McKenna actually even mentioned it a bit in his post match interview that day, he said that he fancied us to get that kind of result. I kind of in my head thought that things would maybe start to get tougher for you but you’ve went from strength to strength. From watching highlights of games recently I think McCabe has signed so very well with the lad Megwa. He has brought pace down that right hand side and tightened it up a lot. Also think it’s been a good move for him to take himself out the side (might be miles off, maybe he’s injured or something I’ve not fully looked into it but have noticed he’s not played as much) and have more legs in the middle of the park. Guys like Fordyce and Watson really seem to have improved and worked hard to get up to speed. Think all of the above has allowed all the clever wee midfield players to really enjoy their football and play some good stuff. A prosper team unit who all work hard for each other it’s a fans dream. To get into the play offs is a very good achievement especially in a league that’s very very tough week to week (except when Arbroath have been on the card this season unfortunately) and it also gives you a small outside chance of getting into the Premiership. I remember getting myself carried away thinking about how strange it would be to go to and host Rangers, Celtic, Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen on Scottish Premiership match days - I had actually fully resigned myself to bottom place and zero wins however the excitement of it was still tremendous. Start day dreaming over what kind of players you could maybe get to the club etc. Who knows maybe if you sneaked in you could do similar to Livingston or Hamilton, very very similar in regards to the 2 clubs. Always thought that when we were nearly on the way up. Don’t think there’s much a difference in their fanbase and support and ours or indeed yours. You’d also have the benefit of FT. Best of luck for remainder of season. I think pound for pound you have probably done the best out of all 10 teams.

Also playing against much inferior attacking players for the most part - every team in this league including the ones near the bottom have some very good attacking players. Some of the top teams in this division, Raith / United and Thistle are genuinely excellent going forward - vast majority of part time players especially when coming back or struggling with injuries (like all of our defenders have throughout season) would really struggle to cope with guys that these teams have

But again this is the whole point, if Sean Dillon is still playing for a team that’s doing well in L1… I don’t see what Mo83 found so controversial about what I said. Every time we’ve been promoted (so obviously in a very good team for the league you’re in) conversations start over who could and could not cut it in the league above and where the team would have to improve - this happens with every team Same thing going down the way, players not good enough in Championship can be good players in L1, players no good enough for the EPL could be good players in the English Championship etc etc etc If Montrose do get promoted (a good team in L1) I really wouldn’t fancy their chances if they didn’t improve on the players that I mentioned And it was definitely not disrespectful or saying that we was gonna scoosh L1

I think it would be a massive surprise if we challenged for a title, I am so pessimistic about the football just now I’d be delighted with a half decent season where we finished mid table. I’m just pointing out we’re dropping into a poorer division so it’s a whole different thing for the players we have at the club and will be looking to bring to the club in order to have a decent season This is true for every club who gets relegated or promoted into a division

I think using Montrose is more suitable for Arbroath fans because Arbroath fans know they players so much better The initial comment was obviously made by someone else because a lot of people had been saying that x player would be good for L1

Well that is the spine of the 3rd or 4th best team in L1 - it is a useful comparison for what a good L1 team actually looks like - if they are playing in a good L1 team then there’s no reason why we won’t have good L1 players or shouldn’t be looking to re sign the likes of Little or Dow Arbroath are dropping down a league, it is a poorer league, the players we have who might have had a hard time of it in the Championship overall should be absolutely fine and good to go for L1

No I never. I said Hamilton and Falkirk are Championship level teams and they’ve absolutely scooshed it, which is true. In this league you play teams of that level every week or sometimes better. Falkirk are clearly a very good team and could be up there nearer the top which is fair. Not disrespecting anyone, we will be a L1 team, I just said that we should have a decent group of players signed who should be good L1 players next year. I said in reply to North Terrace Gaza that we would absolutely struggle to be promoted again and that I would be very happy with a season similar to QoTS the year after they were relegated when they finished 5th - how that translates to me saying that we are going to go and scoosh Alloa, Kelty and QoTS I am really not sure

Not once have I ever said that it will be a scoosh and literally said that if I got offered 5th place right now I would take it

I think, like you, I’m more like Mr Knows f**k all Just giving an opinion

Ok maybe you never challenged But you did finish 5th finishing 30 points ahead of 9th and 3 points behind 4th place And so will Cove (at a minimum) by the look of it, 6 points ahead of 6th with 4 games to play I am not sure that could be classed as struggling. Every team in every league goes through highs and lows throughout a season. Final league table is all that matters

First season for Queens in L1 you challenged for the promotion play offs. Would happily take that right now. Not really sure what’s happened to you this season because on paper thought your business looked decent - if you stay up and bin Bartley then things will maybe look brighter next season

Struggle to do what though? If you mean get promoted then I would absolutely agree but this is the record below of L1 finishes by relegated sides the first season after For last 5 seasons Relegated sides 2022/23 - Hamilton miles ahead in 2nd. Cove pushing for play offs and no danger of bottom half of table. Relegated sides 2021/22 - Dunfermline champions. QoTS just outside promotion play offs. Relegated sides 2020/21 - Alloa just outside promotion play offs. Relegated sides 2019/20 - Partick Thistle champions. Relegated sides 2018/19 - Falkirk finished 2nd and missed out on title by 1 point 7 teams 1st place finishes - 2 2nd placed finishes - 2 5th placed finishes - 3 (Cove could be higher)

It is pish compared to the Championship though - every week you’re up against a team the level of Falkirk or Hamilton or much better and they 2 have absolutely scooshed it ahead of everyone else. Montrose got pumped 7-1 off a Falkirk team who’d probably only be pushing for the play offs in this division. Cameron Gill, 54 year old Sean Dillon, Paul Watson and Hester make up the spine of a Montrose team who are challenging as best of the rest behind Falkirk and Hamilton. I am not saying for one second we will be world beaters or even a really good L1 team but we definitely have players at the club who should be good players for L1. Guys like McIntosh, Gold, Stewart and others would’ve also benefited big time from playing in the Championship for a sustained period of time.

I totally understand that - for me I think if the players commit to us (and in turn sign for us knowing McIntyre is the manager) then I’m absolutely happy to put trust in him for the new season and see how it goes. My biggest concern was that the players weren’t having him and the arse would fall out of the entire thing but if others follow on then I’ll get on board and trust that they’re behind him too

If Michael McKenna signs then I will happily admit I’ve massively overreacted and been an absolute fud - so seeing as I do that all the time the chances are looking good for that happening McKenna for 2 years would be so good - f**k it throw in an extension for Goldie too

In a complete 180 - I have more faith - fickle as f**k I know but Stewart signing on when Gold will be here too makes Gaston and McKenna and others more likely too sign on again in my opinion. Maybe even ToB will stay put but can’t make my mind up over that. Maybe a question for Wednesday, if they expect ToB to be here. If all of the above does happen I will shut my puss, not say a bad word and get behind McIntyre because at a minimum we should be ok next year.

We officially have signed up the best right midfielder / right back / left back / centre half in L1 next season

McKenna and Gaston - preferably Lyon but that’s my own preference I get that. Maybe Ricky too. Stewart is an absolutely brilliant start

YASSSSSS!! If there are another 3/4 like that then I’m all in for next season regardless of who is gaffer. This was my main concern What a man Scotty Stewart