rockson

Was it a man's game?

Is it too early to say, "Faz out"?

I think people in general seriously underestimate how big an adjustment is needed when a club drops into the LL.

Again to be fair, it's not straightforward going up a division.

I thought East Fife knocked the ball about quite well but overall they couldn't do much with it where it mattered. If it's a youth policy you've gone for it's probably worth sticking with.

Entirely predictable that, given the trajectories these clubs were on and the relative monies involved. Brechin not conforming to that stereotype though. Any long term SPFL side is going to struggle with the change of status if relegated to the Lowland League. Their attractivemess to potential players is bound to be much less there. I note it took Edin City and Annan long enough to get promoted one division in the SPFL.

He's still got a lot to do to convince me.

All of the above?

If the champions were guaranteed promotion. Then you're talking about two automatic relegations from the SPFL (to be replaced by one from the HL and another from the LL if it's guaranteed promotion for champions.) That would be two relegations from a league of ten clubs. Which would be insane. And a relegated club would still have to be champion to make it back up. Which hasn't happened yet in the LL (and I would suggest won't for a very long time.) btw Brechin were not historically weaker. Arguably neither were Berwick. Cowdenbeath weren't habitual bottom feeders either.

What easier route? Maybe from the HL but have any of the clubs relegated to it even fnished second in the LL? A club relegated from the SPFL isn't exactly an attractive proposition for ambitious players, ie the ones they'd need in order to do well in the LL.

Where is it written in stone that clubs in a higher division will always beat those in a lower one in a Cup game? I take it Celtic have never lost such a game .........

No it isn''t. The difference between say the bottom two divisions of the SPFL is not as great as that between the SPFL and the Lowland/Highland Leagues and the ability to attract players is therefore affected more acutely. In any case the vastly overwhelming majority of lower division SPFL players are only on one year contracts. They're not at all likely to re-sign to play in a lower league for a lower wage and the club concerned is going to be seen as on the slide and so not going to be as attractive a proposition compared to other clubs. And my comments did not in any way argue against relegation from the SPFL (that was only in your head.) I only said that this particular relegation is a much bigger barrier to being promoted back than it might appear to someone looking on it from a distance.

Maybe some that go to watch do but I would suggest no Dumbarton fan does. I certainly don't.

There are excellent reasons for that. Among them the fact that a relegated club is unlikely even to hold onto the players who weren't good enough anyway and also unlikely - especially in the short term - to attract players who are capable of a promotion push. Not to mention the drop-off in prize money in the Lowland/Highland compared to the SPFL (parachute payments notwithstanding.)

You want to get yourself a better union then.

Oo'err, Missus....... Do tell.

It undoubtedly has.

I see what you did there. Goodbye.

I suspect the point was that Darvel didn't make it to the LL. No West club has as yet. Auchinleck's performance so far this season doesn't say much for their standards.

Yea, well. Only nutters would want to see their side play against a B team.

The juniors had no access to the Scottish Cup way back then. The Senior Leagues, SFL, SPL, HL, EoSL, SoSl, plus outliers like Girvan, Glasgow Uni and Golspie did.

I've heard this shouted at Sons fans by Queen's Park supporters.

Sorry to be negative as you are making conciliatory and somewhat encouraging noises but that sounds to me a bit like if a better opportunity came along you'd be off sharpish.

Before my time but Hughie Gallacher once scored four for us up at Gayfield and we lost. Dave Easson got all five for Arbroath.

Yea. I just couldn't remember his name.