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  1. Why no Arniston or Cumbernauld Colts in the draws?
  2. STV player: https://player.stv.tv/summary/calbrave-bravecalling?cid=ext_tw_sm_vl_bravecalling
  3. I watched most of the documentary last night but started it late in the evening (I'll finish it later today). I found it interesting. It was good to see behind the scenes at the club especially as they get a very negative reaction on here. It was good to hear from people involved in the project and it gave a different side to the club. It is good that they managed to secure their own ground although the location doesn't sound great. Ultimately, however, I still came away wondering how they will ever build a fanbase and that's certainly their biggest challenge and I still think having a name which doesn't mention the town they play in is a mistake. I would still rather see traditional clubs with some support take their place in the Lowland League over time. The prospect of Caledonian Braves end up in League Two at some point in future with a handful of fans still doesn't sound great but credit to them for taking advantage of the pyramid system and getting their own ground. An awful lot of Ricky Waddell's "team talks" seem to involve just shouting ****ing as well.
  4. Interesting table. I think it's also important to note that so many of those clubs are from a town that already has a Highland League club. In fact 7 out of the bottom 8 are in that situation. You've got the following ten clubs from towns with clubs higher up the pyramid: Montrose Roselea (Montrose in SPFL), Nairn St. Ninian (Nairn County), Colony Park (Inverurie Loco Works), Deveronside (Deveronvale), New Elgin (Elgin City), Islavale (Keith), Fraserburgh United (Fraserburgh), Buckie Rovers (Buckie Thistle), Forres Thistle (Forres Mechanics) and Buchanhaven Hearts (Peterhead) Then you've got 9 Aberdeen clubs. Leaving just 7 others: Stonehaven, Maud, Banchory St. Ternan, Longside, Ellon United, Dufftown and Cruden Bay.
  5. I hope the lower league clubs fight this and aren't taken in by the money on offer. Colt teams would completely devalue League Two/any other leagues they end up in.
  6. I think all the West Lothian clubs will move eventually. With Fife, it took four seasons for all clubs to move (Kelty in 2017, a few in 2018, Glenrothes in 2019 and the final group of clubs in 2020). Livingston United applying signals the start of the West Lothian movement to EoS. It all has a domino effect. Once one or two clubs leave, others will start to consider and will gradually move and finally you'll have the teams most against moving accepting that they have to move to play against their local rivals. The East juniors have lost so many clubs and the junior cup has lost so many clubs (even some of the WoS clubs won't play in the next Junior Cup) and the position of remaining in the East juniors will continue to get harder to maintain each season.
  7. If you look at the non-league scene in England, there are plenty of clubs groundsharing. It's not an uncommon issue or something specific to Scotland. The National League North (Level 6 overall, level 2 of non-league) has Gloucester City and Kettering Town groundsharing with other clubs. I've followed Slough Town (my mum is originally from there) and they had to groundshare from 2003 until 2016. Their old ground has been there unused by any senior team ever since they left in 1998 and they were finally able to build a new one close to the old one. They're now in the National League South. It's an issue affecting teams all over the world and it's just the way it is in non-league football. It even happens with league teams too (in Scotland and England). Any idea of demoting teams over groundshares or not letting them into leagues isn't likely to be practical.
  8. You've also got a number of Stirling/Falkirk area clubs which have moved to stronger West-based leagues: Central Scottish: Bannockburn, Fallin, Steins Thistle Caledonian: Stenhousemuir Community, Cambusbarron Rovers, Doune Castle, Milton, Callander Thistle, Dunblane Soccer Academy, Stirling University
  9. Which leads to crazy things like Bishops Stortford being in the National League North despite being in Hertfordshire (only about 30 miles north of central London). There are problems in the English non-league pyramid with there being too many southern clubs high up and it the dividing lines drifting south over time. The introduction of the National League North/South (or Conference North/South) as it used to be seems to have made the problems worse, if anything. We're always going to have a problem if there are only two feeders to League Two and any option which ends up with the Highland League champions playing off against the Lowland League champions is not going to be very fair as there are so many people and teams in the south compared to the north.
  10. The north/south divide is actually a big issue there with the pyramid drifting South over time. It's a bigger problem in Scotland than England as such a huge amount of the population is in the central belt but the north is still an issue in England too.
  11. It would be a huge struggle to get the League Two clubs to back it anyway. Look at how well Cove Rangers have done this season (Edinburgh City in second too). The chances are that Brora and Kelty would be promoted and not go straight back down next season. Increase the league to 14 teams and then relegated 2 or 3 next season (to go back down to 42 teams) and there's a decent chance those 2 or 3 clubs would be established SPFL clubs. Scottish football is generally about self-protectionism. Clubs are going to do what they can to keep it at relegation playoffs rather than automatic relegation at the bottom of League Two and they certainly aren't going to be keen on promoting two non-league clubs at once and threatening their SPFL status further.
  12. Clach were in it for three season (2011-14, finished 7th, 5th and 4th) and Fort William for two (2009-11, finished 10th and 8th-10 teams in the league in both seasons). ICT were in it until 1999 and Ross County 1998 but not sure when they joined. Clach and Fort William were also in it until the mid-90s (Clach won the league in 1992).
  13. In fact, didn't Edusport Academy apply to the Lowland League and get rejected which is why they were in the South of Scotland League in the first place?
  14. The funny thing is that I think he has some interesting points to make but the bitterness makes it hard to take what he says seriously. The Tayside issue is still a problem and bringing attention to that is important but talking about former East junior clubs thinking they are better than the remaining junior clubs, saying that clubs aren't "senior" at all unless they are in the SPFL, saying the EoS set out to destroy the East juniors, that everyone has been lying etc. seriously detracts from any constructive points he has to make. I don't think everything he says is wrong, just that the bitterness takes away so much from what he has to say.
  15. I've been listening and it is quite interesting but the bitterness from Lochee is quite strong and it's getting a bit tiresome listening to him. The guy come from Gartcairn comes across well.
  16. Yeah, not a good example in those posts. This is the first season in the bottom tier for Brechin since 2002. Cowdenbeath have been back in the bottom tier since 2015 but had a good few years above that (even being in the Championship) before then. Stirling were also in the Championship (or old first division) only 9 years ago . Albion Rovers are the only ones that have really struggled although they did get into League One for a few seasons which was a considerable achievement since they'd been stuck in the bottom tier for a long time.
  17. I'm sure the EoS would be happy to take in any of the West Lothian juniors but have been told they can't after the deadline. I certainly don't think it's a case of the EoS not wanting the clubs. I hope people are able to look at it like that rather than thinking the EoS is purposely rejecting West Lothian clubs.
  18. Smaller clubs in the SPFL obviously starting to panic about the possibility of relegation especially with the influx of juniors in the past couple of years. It's already far too difficult for non-leagues to be promoted but Scottish football is all about protecting your own interests so I'm sure some SPFL clubs will try to restrict relegation from League Two even more.
  19. Personally, I'd like to see all clubs in the pyramid compete in the Scottish Cup. At least all clubs in the SPFL, HL, LL, EoS and SoS (with hopefully the remaining juniors eventually joining the pyramid). Perhaps there could be some kind of ground grading. In the early rounds against non-league teams, the unlicensed clubs get to play at their own ground. If they happen to reach the later stages (once WoS clubs start getting licensed, you'd only expect a very small number, if any, licensed clubs to reach the stage of playing SPFL clubs) then they have to play at another ground which is licensed. Might not be ideal but, longer term, I can't see many unlicensed clubs making it through a few qualifying rounds anyway. It would be great to see all clubs involved. Despite me being very pro-all clubs being in the cup, it's worth noting that the FA Cup had 735 clubs involved this year and that Scotland has a population of around 10% of England so we actually do have more clubs per person involved than England.
  20. Yes, a very sensible and well-thought out statement from Livingston. Nice to see clubs higher up talking up the idea, not only of the LL & HL champions being promoted for next season but it being a permanent feature. Livingston statement
  21. Only one now as Glasgow University have confirmed they have applied to join the West of Scotland League We already knew about Glasgow Uni (they just hadn't publicly announced it). There are still two others to be confirmed.
  22. I don't think them dropping out of the LL is conclusive proof that they wouldn't want to go to the WoS but they've dropped out of the EoS and LL over the years and that makes me think they are less likely to move to the WoS. It suggests to me that they are happy to play in a more local league. I could see SoS clubs linking up if it involved the SoS being incorporated into the WoS in the lower tiers and being promoted up into a wider geographical area but I don't think many of them would like to leap from mostly D&G to non-geographical conferences where they will be travelling to Ayshire, Glasgow etc. every second week.
  23. The EoS has always covered the borders (South East clubs) going back many decades. Go back to 1960-61, for example, and you've got the following clubs in the EoS: Edinburgh (6 clubs)-Spartans, Civil Service Strollers, Edinburgh University, Ferranti Thistle, Edinburgh City Police, Murrayfield Amateurs Borders+Berwick (10 clubs)-Gala Fairydean, Vale of Leithen, Peebles Rovers, Coldstream, Hawick Royal Albert, Eyemouth United, Selkirk, Duns, Chirnside United, Berwick Rangers reserves It'll be a combination of history and transport links. In addition, the south west of Scotland is much further south than the south east of Scotland due to the border with England.
  24. I have no inside knowledge whatsoever but I do think it will be surprising if 3 or 4 SoS clubs apply to the WoS. Hard to see any club other than (possibly) Bonnyton apply. Threave already stepped down from the EoS once many years ago and stepped down from the LL so I'm not sure why they, or other clubs, would go into conferences next season involving far more travelling than the SoS. It would be interesting to see a few of the clubs move but I find it hard to believe that they will.
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