Cannibal

Honestly as bad a performance as there has been in the last few years, and that is saying something. Only hope is the McCall now knows exactly what he is dealing with here.

The only potential impact here can be a drop in crowds. Certain people wanted us out of Broadwood even if there was no better offer. They've got what they wanted. In five years time it won't be shettleston juniors v broadwood, it will be shettleston juniors or nothing. Congratulations to those folk

How much income do you think we are missing out on by not being able to open a club shop on non-match days?

Let's face it, those who were willing to move us to any old shithole as long as it wasn't cumbernauld, even if it meant changing the club's name will now get their way.

Honestly have no idea how Clyde make decisions despite throwing money away as an owner in the hope of getting some information. In the last few months we had an AGM to vote in the Board, followed by some updates on working parties who were looking into improving Broadwood and/or potential relocations. Fast forward a few weeks and we've had some sponsor force the Board into signing a player they didn't want to sign, then 5(?) new people added to the Board without any mechanism for the owners to do anything about it (including one returning board member who previously tried to kill the club by changing its name and moving us to a stadium that didn't yet exist), immediately followed by announcing a move to fucking Hamilton (christ, i'd have rather the cliftonhill april fools joke was true). I'm not saying we should stay at Broadwood but I literally have no idea how the fan-owned club works or how the owners actually influence things in any way.

And folk on here were claiming it was essential for Scottish football that the SPFL allowed more promotion from this league?

I am suggesting that, yes. Blocking fair promotion into Tier 5 should be sorted if Tier 5 wants more upwards promotion. This seems reasonable to me. Fairness will only be achieved when we have a system that guarantees teams find their level not one that is tweaked now and again to increase the chances of promotion for whatever team happens to be getting bankrolled to a league title in a season, or gifts a playoff to team that has played three games.

I am sure we agree on where we would all like to be but there's absolutely no reason why it is "essential" that an extra team in League Two should drop into a league half made up of dross that are voting against plans to let better teams get promoted into it. in the last couple of years we've had a highland league team getting in a promotion play-off having played three league games and a lowland league team twice refusing more promotion into it whilst making space for old firm B teams. The essential thing is for the leagues outside the SPFL to ensure they are as competitive as possible to prove they actually produce the next best teams in the country and make the prospect of dropping into it less disastrous.

Surely it's time to drop this. starting to sound like old firm fans using something like this to point score

I honestly find it hard to believe we are putting anything more than a pittance towards his wages. I mean surely he was guaranteed his Raith Rovers money and they couldn't get out of that so why would we pay anything more than a token amount (or maybe some bonuses that he'll now not get)? (I'm well aware that there is one potentially obvious answer and it is that we are fucking idiots.)

I don't think whether they are legally able to do it or not is overly relevant now. Surely the club aren't going to push it and take legal action to force them to let goodwillie in, as that would just keep this going and embarrass us further. But then again who knows what they might do. An all-time low, which as a Clyde fan is saying something.

We don't need to take everything to extremes like this. I agree the Club have made the wrong decision but there's no need to go that far. The club has existed for 140-odd years and will continue long past this furore as long as the fans get a grip and stop seeing people with a different view as enemies. Having said that, I don't expect anything from the game (other than some negative headlines and much comment on the fans reactions to one player, if he even plays).

Well a) he should be getting his money from Raith as they were stupid enough to sign him and b) if he's not playing or being paid at the level he should be it is his own fault. Unreal some of the logic being used here

Us not re-signing him is not him being punished for life for a crime he didn't commit. What a hill to die on. Honestly i've never known a fanbase to be so hostile to ex-players (other than this one). He hands in a transfer request when we are in a relegation battle and all you lot are treating him like a hero and willing to have the club be the shame of the nation to get what? One and a half seasons of league 1 football that we would likely have anyway?

Quite a lot has changed actually and not just what is in the papers. Most despicably of all we now have a group who hero-worship and defend Goodwillie both on messageboards and at games. That is quite different to letting a guy play football for the worst team in Scotland (which at the time seemed like more humiliation and some small punishment for his actions). What has also changed is a lot of people going back and seeing exactly what happened at the time and re-considering whether we should ever have signed him. Let's not forget this all came back in the media because he thought he could make a bit of money and didn't give a f**k what impact it would have on anyone else. What has also happened is the realisation that the club is being run by people without a backbone who will let the club be shamed nationally under pressure from a few individuals. Now you can pretend you are the one taking a principled stand if you are comfortable with all the above if you want but perfectly reasonable for others to view differently.

A previous Chairman (who has since supposedly tried to demand money from the club for a different matter) gave a statement in completely different circumstances. Regardless of anyone's views on goodwillie and whether he should play football, the Current Board need to explain to owners why they took the decision, whether they were pressured into it and what they intend to do to offset the massive negative reaction it was inevitably going to cause. Quite seperate to whether DGW should he playing anywhere we need to know who actually runs this club and what they are doing to address the key long-term problems we have, i.e being able ot put a decent team on the park and build a bigger fanbase. Signing DGW does very little for the former (every other player is garbage) and good luck at pretending to be a community club after this.

Jesus Christ. Just shut the club ffs. What is the point

Caplan has given his thoughts on the owners forum via some "intermediary" in the last few days. If you are an owner it is on page 2 of the "would you have DGW back" thread. Given it is a private forum, I won't be posting what he said but thought I'd mention it.

The Board should never be signing him again and they have disgraced the club with this move but this whole going on about remorse thing is pointless. Even if he was remorseful, he is hardly going to admit a crime he hasn't been charged with is he?

An absolute embarrassment of a club and it's clear those in charge of it are a bunch of fucking morons.

No idea where you have popped up from but if you really are a Clyde fan, please do the rest of the fans and the Club a favour and delete these posts or at least give up posting on the subject

Unfortunately a good number on the Clyde owners' forum seem to disagree.

It's already been pointed out to you that the annoyed responses are in relation to the language used in the daily record article which makes claims that Logan didn't make so you might want to reconsider who the thick one is here. I don't think any Clyde fan is going to take lectures off a fucking clown with charlie adam as his picture either.

I remember hoping this club would win its relegation playoff then thinking it would be good to see them fight their way back up. What a disgrace of a club.

Disgrace