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We've got to work better as a forum. We have a legal thread and a polling thread, so when they start of with their pish, just tell them to post on the correct threads. I admit its hard, given that they are such good point and laugh material, but we all have to do better to control ourselves!

No, it was "agreed" by the Unionists. They seem to have forgotten how every single other pollster was dismantled just as easily.

Not knowledge, as thats impossible to know, but I reckon (based on an educated guess) that the hardcore vote is probably a bit over 30% for both sides, with them both pretty much equal.

And the follow up to show the trend: Thats right, 5 points down since September. Bring it. http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scottish-independence-poll-shows-yes-narrowing-gap-1-3239245

Those unionists have beem awfully quiet this last week.

For those of us that don't get the ft?

Bbbbb bu but I thought the polls hadn't changed all year?

Ah yes, I remember that, you're both much more qualified than "some nobody from northwestern", as he knew nothing about international law. That would be US ambassador to the UN, specialised in international law, and head of a massive centre for international law. You'll excuse us if we laugh heartily at your "I know everything and am never wrong" statements. Edited to add, and of course, when Reynard did mention it, and not just once, neither you or any of the law squad felt any impulse to "keep him honest". Not once...

You didn't have a problem with it before, and now suddenly you do? Yes Reynard.

That isn't an answer. The law squad have insisted that it cannot be negotiated from within the CDU, and negotiations can't start until independence. Indeed, Reynard has made this point more than once, and not once has the law squad questioned it. So when will we be kicked out? You've also tried this not in the EU argument before. Wrong. We are.

Oooh, goalpost moving, deflection, and an attack too. When will kicking out day be?

By the way, when do those eminent names say kicking out day will be? You left the forum for a few days rather than answer that one. When will we be officially kicked out?

Why should he? You do nothing but duck dive, lie, and deflect. Why should he help you out when anyone can see that you're making a fool of yourself. Again.

Oh dear. Desperate stuff.

At least it wasn't law.

Said one of the biggest liars on the forum.

I'm not sure entirely what you mean? Could you explain in a little more depth please? What figures are these and how did you calculate them? Not having a go, just interested!

Well researched. Its the same as for many referendums and elections. People don't get engaged properly until the last couple months. Even HB knows this and has admitted it, so why he maintains the law squad fiction is something of a mystery.

You don't see one? Do you identify as English? Or welsh?

Not just behind, but a long way behind! Long enough for posters like hb and reynard to predict a big snp defeat. Furthermore as even hb has said, the final result is going to be much, much closer than the current polls. Even he agrees that the current figures are not representative. Makes you wonder why he keeps making such a big deal...

Let me help you: The pound. We will be in it, no doubt there. We are already in the EU. The subs can get to f**k. We will have a small army. This has been covered in all kinds of paper. We can provide concrete justification for our motives. Whether it is historic examples of London deliberately selling Scotland short, the neo-liberal state that seems to be creeping in, the racism and bigotry of the British government, energy prices, population issues, there are a million and one reasons to vote yes. There are very few reasons to vote no. You get a choice of fear (which seems to be your chosen option), racism, stupidity, or Alex Salmond (which is moronic).

Ah, so you're a nationalist, that makes sense. On another note, its time for another begging plea from Carmichael: Scottish independence: ‘Business must speak up’ http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scottish-independence-business-must-speak-up-1-3221480 Funny, the Yes side never seem to have a problem getting businesses to support them...

Are you anti EU? That might explain why you are voting no, perhaps you would prefer to be out of the EU?

I make a terrible converter these days. A few years back, I was excellent at arguing my point reasonably and converting people, but as independence shifted from pipe dream to real hope, to potentially imminent, my views also shifted with it. I am very much more of an extremist than I was a few years back. I find myself reacting to the too wee too poor nonsense very negatively. I've only made one convert recently, and he asked me to keep my voice down when I was converting him because I was (and I quote) "inciting hatred" against the British Government. Im not good at this any more.

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