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2 minutes ago, rainbowrising said:
Camera angle behind the goal shows the Ref had already blown for a free kick before any of that happened.
He clearly blows just after the penalty call. Hence why they waited for the VAR call.
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23 hours ago, Reid said:
4 players from 7th placed Morton who can still finish second bottom is a wild shout.
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I can understand Morton fans making a case for Strapp, Wilson, Oalkey, and Mullen. We won almost every game that all four played, and our form was excellent in the months that they were generally fit and available. I'm not saying that any of them should be in the team, but we'd have been relegated without them.
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2 hours ago, Ferguson said:
It's a shame the club aren't keen on giving away fans the far end of the Cowshed anymore. I'm led to believe it's for security reasons as well as the financial impact that has, but you're just never going to get the same atmosphere without it. For the visit of clubs with smaller away supports such as Airdrie, Dunfermline etc. where it's always a quiet, dull affair it adds a bit of bite. Bring it back.
I actually think it's not very good for the atmosphere as a whole. You mostly just end up with a small sections of fans shouting at each other with the rest of the shed not particularly aware of anything.
I think the last time we had fans in there was against Ayr, and there were fans trying to clamber over the banners and stuff like that. It's obviously a better place for away fans to be than the Main Stand but it's not a properly segregated area and has been more trouble than it's worth for us.
The away end of the Main Stand holds 6-800 (depending on how much of the area is used, it seems to have been reduced from he full 800 to 600 recently). It's not the best place in the ground, but it makes sense for us to put fans in there. I think dialogue between clubs is important here. It's possible to encourage enough away fans from most teams in the league to open the WDE - clubs should be working together to make things like that happen.
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The problem with Patterson is that a very limited full back who doesn't make so many mistakes is going to be better than a more talented one who is full of errors and lacking in confidence and game time. I don't think Stephen O'Donnell ever played as bad for Scotland as Patterson did last night, despite how limited a player he was at international level. I'm not sure who the equivalent to that would be right now, possibly Ralston, but Patterson on that form is a liability. I even wondered about moving Hendry to right back last night, it was that bad.
It's the same old problem, though, we're constantly looking to protect our obvious weaknesses.
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20 minutes ago, Salvo Montalbano said:
Interesting take on the error from JJ Bull (tactics analysis at the Athletic). You'll probably need Twitter/X or some kind of Tweetdeck to read the full thing, and I know that he and his ilk have as many detractors as fans, but thought it was worth posting none the less. Not that I particularly agree either, tbh.
That's a bit like saying if a shot from 40 yards went into the top corner of the net instead of high over the bar then it would have been a goal (or, in Patterson's case, if his crosses went into the box rather than behind the goal then they might've created a chance). If you're playing a pass like that in the box, then you have to have a great deal of certainty that it'll work or you'll always be more likely to concede than score - the judgement has to match the level of ability. Patterson has some raw ability which hasn't so far really translated into all round performances for a full/wingback.
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6 minutes ago, SEETHING said:
Gosh, I hope we're not caught cold by (at best) half-fit eight-goal superstar "George Oakley".
Wonder if Joma will force him to play a la Nike forcing Ronaldo to play in the 1998 World Cup Final.
Oakley has 10 goals in his last 13 games. I'm not suggesting that Hearts should be terrified of him or anything, but he's an important player for us. Even more for the way he leads the line than for his goals - we simply don't have a replacement. It's like if Hearts were missing Shankland against whichever semi-competent European team they were playing - it might not make the difference, but it does add some slight hope.
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1 hour ago, PrestersKTID said:
Why was there a need to change it in first place? Old system wasn't bad was it? I never had any issues before
In terms of getting in, my experience of both systems has been fairly similar in recent years. You either time it right and get in bang on time, or you are not so lucky and end up in a big queue. Getting in too early and getting kicked out just before sale time is a problem I've had with both systems.
My problem with the last system was that it had a habit of rejecting cards for no reason. They fixed that latterly but it was a pain for a while.
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Looked a mile offside, but that finish was Van Bastanesque.
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The correct answer is obviously Gretna. There are plenty of bigger small town/village teams who have never even played in the equivalent of League Two who are bigger than Gretna.
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Our first home Scottish Cup Quarter final for 25 years. It would be very disappointing if the capacity is restricted in a similar way to Friday night.
I think 4 or our last 5 Scottish Cup QFs have been 0-3 defeats to Celtic (the other being a 2-5 against Killie after threatening to make a comeback from 3 nil down in that one). I hope this one goes better.
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30 minutes ago, Hendricks said:
Oh wow! Going to be a major scrabble for them then, that's nowhere close to meeting demand.
9 minutes ago, Jamie_M said:Motherwell were given 3k and sold 2k.
We might stretch to 3.5k for you but that's yer lot.
Yeah, I imagine the club will probably give them about 3000 for the WDE and about 5 or 600 for the main stand.
There's not any scope for any more away fans than that, especially with the cameras that'll likely be in the Cowshed again.
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2 stonewall bookings. Can have absolutely no complaints.
Power, on the other hand, can probably count himself lucky for not getting a straight red after going in straight legged with studs above ankle height. No idea what he was thinking, and I was surprised the ref didn't decide to even it up.
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22 hours ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said:
How's Tyler French getting on? Hopefully he will be set free from this shitemare in January.
Thank you.
He's been underwhelming at right back but not a total disaster. The games he played in a back 3, on the other hand, definitely have been a total disaster. His basic defending has been a bit all over the place. He's fortunate to be in a defence with Broadfoot, because that's taking some attention away from his performances. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he's not properly fit.
Hopefully a good run of games at right back and he'll come good but I can't see Dundee being keen to recall him in January.
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On 16/10/2023 at 09:18, Mr.Blue said:
Disagree with your point re Gillespie. He's still got something to add to the team. When he's on it no one else in the squad can get the ball down and make us play the way he does. He needs an energetic and mobile midfield partner in there and Power isn't that guy.
In general I would agree about Gillespie, but he's certainly not up to speed at the moment. The goal we conceded on Saturday is a good example of that (his booking not long after a similar late challenge is another) - both he and Power were painfully off the pace. They would be a cracking midfield pair if they were properly match fit for this level, but neither seem to be right now. I don't think the issue with Gillespie is going to be solved as easily as changing who he's in midfield with - he's had injury issues this season just isn't looking like the player we know he can be.
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2 hours ago, qpfc said:
Is Quitongo still injured for you guys? Our stupidly high line would get absolutely rinsed by his pace on the counter
Seems like he might be out for a while, so play the line as high as you want.
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14 minutes ago, David W said:
Advertised as a right back which didn't help, he's basically only played in midfield. Didn't do much in L1 but been good in his two L1 starts.
He mostly played wing back for us. Not the worst at going forward, a bit sketchy defensively. He had some good games but wasn't ever consistently near good enough for us. I wasn't sure how he'd get on after leaving us, but he did seem like the kind of player who could have a decent career around League Two level. We gave him a stupidly long contract after he first broke through but it seemed pretty clear that Imrie never rated him very highly.
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In terms of raw technical ability, King is a cut above League Two level but he's not where Imrie wants him to be in terms of the nitty-gritty of knowing his role and following instructions (and Imrie's very particular about that). I would've liked to have seen him have a chance to start games and learn at Championship level, but Imrie wasn't going to give him that. You never know how these things are going to turn out, but if he settles quickly I think he'll tear League Two up. Quality player.
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17 minutes ago, hatchetman said:
First twenty minutes our defence were dreadful. Once we equalised I felt there was only one winner.I was berating Graham for rolling about up until he rammed my words right down my throat. Apologies to the young lad stood beside me who had to endure my Ill informed rantings.
I said during the first half that Graham had been absolutely useless and was helping us by being no outlet at all, but I also said that there's still a big chance of him popping up with a goal or two. From what I've seen over the last couple of years he's mostly gamesmanship and goals now. He does what he needs to, including running to the referee and waving his arms about to point out that Broadfoot was bleeding slightly (to make him have to go off when we were about to defend a corner - I'm pretty sure he caused the bleeding as well).
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20 minutes ago, ClydeTon said:
Was it not Baird who got sent and ended up rolling on the deck wondering what had happened?
That was Waters.
I want to know why we were left 3 on 3 at the back like that. Why was Power where he was or should it have been Wilson deeper? Broadfoot shouldn't have rushed out once he had been put in that position either. I can't remember what happened right before that to put us in such a mess, but it really is awful from us.
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33 minutes ago, No_Problemo said:
As much as I think Crawford could do very well in the top league in the right team and set up, it would surely be a bit strange for a side to pay money for a guy in his late twenties who has previously spent time at two different clubs up there and ultimately was deemed not good enough.
I would love for him to go and prove some of the morons in our support even more wrong, as well as hugely weakening yourselves obviously. Saying that - with Imrie, I doubt it would make much difference.
I was slightly underwhelmed by Crawford last season. Not because he was bad, he was consistently pretty good, but because he seemed to just be lacking something I was hoping for. At the start of this season he looks like a player who has found what he was lacking. Playing in a slightly more advanced role behind the striker he has been outstanding. He's looked a class above in that role. Whether it's a purple patch or a player who is coming into his prime, who knows, but on current form I can understand why teams would want him for a small fee. He does look like a player for whom everything in his game has come together at this point.
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22 minutes ago, itzdrk said:
Aw it's the conspiracy theory that he got sent off on purpose against Arbroath.
Which is almost better than him being just that stupid and/or clumsy. I think I'd maybe rather people think I was doing something underhand, to be honest.
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4 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said:
Was making a perfectly simple point about how players who are seemingly gash at some clubs can go on and become very solid players at another club. Jack Baird is a case in point of being utterly woeful at Ayr for two seasons but is performing as a consistent 6 or 7/10 for Morton. Similarly Sean McGinty was the joke figure of Greenock for 18 months but has turned it around at Ayr. However that doesn’t stop fans maintaining the view that these players are still poor. It’s a thing every fan is guilty of. Didn’t realise it was such a controversial point that you’re still thinking about it the following day.
I didn't particularly rate Baird at Morton the first time (or when he played for St Mirren either). I have been surprised at how solid he has been for us this time round. It's not just happens from one club to the next. Morton fans universally thought Cammy Blues was hopeless but there's not many left who think that now (same thing happened with a player like Ricki Lamie as well).
With McGinty, though, it's just tough to get over some of the things I've seen him do (even before he joined Morton, his performance for Partick were among the worst I've ever seen from an opposition defender). It would be like telling me that Sam Ramsbottom has turned into a world class goalkeeper - it's impossible for me to believe.
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11 hours ago, No_Problemo said:
Everyone goes mental at those kind of tackles, as they are obviously incredibly frustrating when you support the attacking team. It’s a pretty routine stopping a break away yellow card though. Some people obviously want them to be a red, I don’t personally - quite like them!
The comments around Murdoch deserving an injury based on that tackle were a disgrace though.
Obviously agreed on Quitongo, he didn’t do too much - put himself at risk of a booking with his reaction I guess.
I'm one of those who would like the rules to change to make that a red, for the reason that the challenge itself was worthy of a yellow and the situation it occurred in (stopping the attack) also warranted a yellow. Murdoch has clearly decided to take the yellow card in the situation and then just thrown his leg over knowing what his punishment would be, but I don't think it fair to "take a yellow" from a situation in which there is significant enough risk of an opponent being injured. So pull a shirt and take the booking, but you shouldn't be able put in a challenge worthy of a yellow card in itself to take a yellow card for stopping an attack. It's fair enough mistiming a challenge, but I'm not a fan of deliberately stopping another player in that manner.
It's not a hill I'm going to go out and die on, but it is a change I would like to see.
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8 minutes ago, North Terrace Gazza said:
Steady on. It was a professional foul Miles from goal. Did it injure or did he intend to injure? No it was a trip. Yellow card but red, not a chance. Quotongo’s retaliation was mad and nearly a deliberate stamp.
Yes, he did injure - himself and his opponent. It was reckless. He knows the ball has gone and he's thrown a leg out to stop Quitongo. He isn't in control of what he's doing, which is clearly shown in the resulting injury to both players. I don't know why he didn't just try to grab his shirt.
You don't really see red cards for that, though. He has tried to stop him, not injure him, but it was stupid to throw his leg across him the way he did and it was certainly reckless - pull his shirt or give him a wee shove, by all means, but why use the leg like that? He's probably asking himself the same question, to be fair.
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Morton v Rovers
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Broadfoot's a dirty player (although quite a few of his 14 bookings have been for dissent). Baird recently seems to be following his example. Power's a player who can put a heavy challenge in. On the other hand, Robbie Muirhead has 10 bookings this season and I don't think anyone has ever accused him about him being that type of player (usually the complaint being the opposite). We've only had one sending off all season, which was harsh (one 24th of all sendings off, if you wondered).
We have a physical side to us, absolutely, but it's more "what you see is what you get" physicality rather than "someone is going to get injured" dirty.