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  1. 1 hour ago, #DUFC said:

    Would have thought that a grass pitch would be the preferred option? Not saying there aren’t some good synthetic pitches out there (Dunipace is probably as good as I’ve seen at this level) but surely a final on grass would be everyone’s preference? 

    Dozens of clubs have artificial turf (including Inverkeithing).

    Just watched Airdrie-TNS on 3G.

    Been numerous EOS finals on synthetic surfaces... e.g. Falkirk, Kelty, Spartans, Gala, Broxburn, Blackburn, Heriot-Watt Uni, Armadale.

    That said every hypothetical I've speculated except Broxburn is natural grass.

  2. 8 minutes ago, Swifty said:

    Are the finalists guaranteed another game ie semi? 

    Might only be the winner qualify (like last season) AFAICS... depend how rules are amended; whether Bonnyrigg stay up; etc.
     

    4 minutes ago, imho said:

    Where will the final be played. 

    No idea... plenty well-appointed grounds located between them like Haddington/Preston/Musselburgh/Newtongrange/Dalkeith/Meggetland/Broxburn/etc. (though Broxburn already had Alex Jack Cup final just last month).

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    Saturday 23rd March 2024
    SFs:
    Broxburn Athletic 1-2 Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts
    Dunipace 1-4 Dunbar United


    Sunday 28th April 2024
    Final:
    Dunbar United v Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts



    Premier and First division leaders left chastened by their visitors.

    Both reach their first ever senior cup final... no East Lothian club has won this cup since Preston in 2004; no Fife since Cowdenbeath in 1903.

  4. 45 minutes ago, BFTD said:

    I'd suggest any of the full-time clubs have a realistic shot at winning one of those cups, given a favourable draw and/or a good run of form. I'd have thought fans of most could point to a near miss in recent memory. It might not happen, but it's certainly not out of the question, unlike finishing above Celtgers in the league, which will absolutely never happen without a sugar daddy/more catastrophic liquidation events.

    Who has the worst cup record of the full-timers? There must be a club who've never even reached a semi-final or looked even remotely like lifting a cup.

    Of the current 24 full-time clubs: 11 have won a Scottish/League cup within last 20yrs... 5 more have made finals (Motherwell, Falkirk, Dunfermline, QotS, Livingston)... Dundee, Partick, Raith, Morton, Ayr, Airdrie, Queen's Park, Hamilton haven't (though Dundee, Raith, Morton and Ayr have each made SF once).


    EDIT: if we widen it to include Challenge Cup within last 20yrs then Falkirk, QotS, Livingston, Dundee, Raith, Airdrie, Hamilton also register.

    That leaves 6 clubs whose polish has dried rock hard:

    Motherwell          won Scottish Cup in 1990-91
    Partick                    won League Cup in 1971-72
    Dunfermline        won Scottish Cup in 1967-68     (they have won Fife Cup within last 20yrs - in 2017-18)
    Morton                   won Scottish Cup in 1921-22     (they have won Renfrewshire Cup within last 20yrs - in 2012-13)
    Queen's Park      won Scottish Cup in 1892-93

    Ayr                            have never won a national cup

  5. 4 hours ago, Urban Spaceman said:

    A pedant writes.....its the crumb rubber that's used to fill out the plastic pitch that's the potential killer. There are apparently alternatives that can be used that are just as effective on the same "plastic pitches".

    Not read the study, but would hazard a guess that a kid running around in a concrete playground versus a kid running around on a plastic pitch is just as likely to inhale as much "carcinogenic" materials in both situations (car fumes v rubber)

    I also assumed it referred specifically to the recycled rubber crumb infill, with alternative plastics simply substituted, but nope... the professor wants all synthetic pitches banned, with sport only played on natural grass, or wood-based surfaces like cork.

    That would have a devastating impact on access to youth and adult sport here and - strangely enough - a corresponding deterioration in heath and wellbeing.


    EDIT: Scottish Government not buying it:

    This claim was refuted by the Scottish government, which said "at least 95% of the material in use falls within the limits set in restriction under EU Reach (Registration, Evaluation, Authorisation and Restriction of Chemicals)."

    A spokesman added: “There are currently no widely available alternative infill products with proven durability on the market that are as effective, suitable for all UK weather conditions and deliver the required performance standards."

    The Scottish government told BBC Scotland News that no alternative options were as "effective" as the current 3G pitches in use.

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    Saturday 23rd March 2024
    SFs:
    Broxburn Athletic v Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts
    Dunipace v Dunbar United


    SF day tomorrow; indeed Inverkeithing's first-ever senior semi. Broxburn haven't reached SFs of this cup for 113yrs* and amazingly haven't won any cup in 36yrs. Dunbar have waited decades too IIRC.


    *when they progressed to Final ultimately losing 2-1 to Peebles Rovers at Tynecastle:

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  7. Extension to Main Stand at Tynecastle opened 55yrs ago today. It was never going to win many architectural awards:

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    East of Scotland Shield Final finished 1-1 before 14,000, with Hibs winning replay 1-0 at Easter Road on Saturday 26th April before 10,729. That was Scottish Cup Final day... can't have been many occasions you saw OF and Edinburgh derby cup finals on the same day.

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  8. On 25/02/2024 at 14:06, HibeeJibee said:

    Some interesting - if generally rather alarming - latest polls from our friends in the former Anschluss ahead of their upcoming elections 😬:


    German general election (by 2025)
    28%     Conservatives (CDU-CSU)
    19%     Far right (AfD)
    14%     Labour (SPD)
    12%     Greens
       8%     Populists (BSW)
       5%     Liberals (FDP)
       2%     Far left (DL)
       2%     Centrists (FW)


    Saxony state election (Sep 1st)
    35%     Far right
    30%     Conservatives
       8%     Populists
       7%     Greens
       7%     Labour
       4%     Far left
       0%     Liberals


    Thuringia state election (Sep 1st)
    31%     Far right
    20%     Conservatives
    17%     Populists
    15%     Far left
       6%     Labour
       5%     Greens
       3%     Liberals

    Brandenburg state election (Sep 22nd)
    28%     Far right
    18%     Conservatives
    17%     Labour
    13%     Populists
       8%     Greens
       6%     Far left
       4%     Centrists
       3%     Liberals

    European Parliament election in Germany (Jun 9th)
    27%     Conservatives
    22%     Far right
    16%     Labour
    10%     Greens
       5%     Populists
       4%     Far left
       3%     Liberals


    Austrian general election (by autumn)
    26%     Far right (FPO)
    23%     Labour (SPD)
    20%     Conservatives (OVP)
    10%     Liberals (NEOS)
    10%     Greens
       7%     Populists (BIER)
       3%     Far left

    Styria state election (by autumn)
    26%     Far right
    24%     Labour
    20%     Conservatives
    14%     Far left
       8%     Greens
       7%     Liberals

    Vorarlberg state election (by autumn)
    29%     Conservatives
    20%     Far right
    14%     Greens
    13%     Labour
    12%     Liberals

    European Parliament election in Austria (Jun 9th)
    27%     Far right
    24%     Conservatives
    23%     Labour
    12%     Liberals
    11%     Greens
       2%     Far left

     

    On 26/02/2024 at 09:24, BFTD said:

    Are they going down the "actually, I think you'll find that we're centre right" route too?


    While everybody has been focused on the far right... the Communists (KPO) have just come from nowhere to finish 2nd in Salzburg's state elections (only 2.5% and 1 seat from finishing 1st); and entered run-off for city mayor.

    Vote share increased more than 6-fold on 2019.


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    Salzburg city mayoral 1st round:
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  9. RLWC qualification has become a complete joke now - a single Europe group with France, Wales, Serbia and Ukraine (!) whose winner joins Cook Islands, South Africa and Jamaica to play for 2 places. Lebanon hilariously keep their automatic spot despite also failing the homegrown test like Scotland, Ireland and Italy (but not Wales or Jamaica) have.

    That said as I've mentioned before RL here has been totally mismanaged in last decade.

    Having reached RLWC QFs in 2013 and won European Cup in 2014 there was clear opportunity to play Four Nations game(s) here in 2016, and RLWC game(s) in 2022, to spark more interest domestically. Instead they all got played in England*... so coupled with playing just twice between 2018 and 2022 (home-&-away qualifiers in Oct 2019), and not playing since through lack of tournaments/tours/friendlies, the whole situation has now been completely squandered.

    *between 2013 and 2016 we actually played 3 ostensibly 'home' games at Workington and 1 at Featherstone (with another due in 2021 but ultimately cancelled)

  10. 9 hours ago, Ranaldo Bairn said:

    It doesn't specify, but what form of football was being played between Perth and Stirling there?

    It speaks of "touching behind" (fnarr fnarr) but also Stirling winning by a goal.

    Association football never still had touching down at this stage did it?

    It'll be rugby. Until the turn of the century football and rugby results are often intermixed in the press.

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    Fri 15 Mar 2024
    (7:45)     436     Armadale Thistle 3-2 Ormiston Primrose

    Sat 16 Mar 2024
    (11:15)    386     Luncarty 5-3 Crossgates Primrose
    (2:00)       356     Kinnoull 0-0 Penicuik Athletic
    (4:45)       385     Jeanfield Swifts 1-1 Dunbar United
    (8:00)       447     Sauchie Seals 3-2 Hill of Beath Humpbacks

    Sun 17 Mar 2024
    (12:15)     540     Whitburn 1-0 Whitehill Welfare



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    2015          2,269     average 379          16 goals     2.7 per game
    2016          2,002     average 334          16 goals     2.7 per game          (1 game was unintended*)
    2017          1,303     average 261          18 goals     3.6 per game          (5 games only)
    2018              886     average 222          29 goals     7.3 per game          (4 games only as 2 postponed^)
    2019          2,271     average 379          30 goals     5.0 per game
    2021          2,240     average 374          29 goals     4.9 per game
    2022          2,383     average 398          19 goals     3.2 per game

    2023          3,025     average 505          17 goals     2.9 per game
    2024          2,550     average 425          21 goals     3.5 per game
    Total        18,929     average 372      195 goals     3.9 per game


    *Civil Service Strollers v Leith Athletic was a last-minute substitute after Preston Athletic v Threave Rovers was postponed waterlogged shortly before kickoff
    ^Lothian Thistle HV v Tynecastle and Peebles Rovers v Ormiston were waterlogged and snowbound respectively



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    618     Linlithgow Rose v Jeanfield Swifts
    607     Tranent v Bo'ness United
    584     Hill of Beath Hawthorn v Linlithgow Rose
    557     Musselburgh Athletic v Broxburn Athletic
    553     Dunbar United v Coldstream
    540     Whitburn v Whitehill Welfare

    517     Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic v Dalbeattie Star
    507     Bo'ness United v Civil Service Strollers

    491     East Kilbride v Whitehill Welfare

    462     Haddington Athletic v Dundonald Bluebell
    462     Threave Rovers v Edinburgh University
    448     Tynecastle v Sauchie
    447     Sauchie v Hill of Beath Hawthorn
    436     Armadale Thistle v Ormiston Primrose

    435     Spartans v University of Stirling
    434     Crossgates Primrose v Penicuik Athletic
    418     Edinburgh City v East Kilbride
    410     Glenrothes v Kinnoull
    401     Newtongrange Star v Tranent
    400     Dalbeattie Star v Edinburgh City


    398     Penicuik Athletic v Lothian Thistle HV
    386     Luncarty v Crossgates Primrose
    385     Jeanfield Swifts v Dunbar United

    380     Dunipace v Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic
    371     Dundonald Bluebell v Tranent
    366     Gretna 2008 v Dalbeattie Star
    365     Oakley United v Easthouses Lily
    356     Camelon v Edinburgh United
    356     Kinnoull v Penicuik Athletic
    328     Blackburn United v Preston Athletic
    324     Whitehill Welfare v Gala Fairydean Rovers
    323     Gala Fairydean Rovers v University of Stirling
    312     Vale of Leithen v Preston Athletic
    309     Dalkeith Thistle v Tweedmouth Rangers
    301     Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts v Heriot-Watt University

    294     Edinburgh University v Selkirk
    288     Peebles Rovers v Newtongrange Star
    287     Hawick RAU v East Stirlingshire
    281     Selkirk v Spartans
    278     Broxburn Athletic v Dundonald Bluebell
    278     Kelty Hearts v Tweedmouth Rangers
    267     Coldstream v Tynecastle
    263     Preston Athletic v Cumbernauld Colts
    259     Ormiston v Leith Athletic
    235     Mid Annandale v Lochmaben
    228     Easthouses Lily v Glenrothes
    227     Eyemouth United v Lothian Thistle HV
    219     Caledonian Braves v Edinburgh University
    207     Heriot-Watt University v Leith Athletic
    166     Burntisland Shipyard v Preston Athletic
    165     Civil Service Strollers v Leith Athletic*


    *Civil Service Strollers v Leith Athletic was a last-minute substitute after Preston Athletic v Threave Rovers was postponed shortly before kickoff
     

  12. 20 hours ago, Ray Patterson said:

    Stephen McGowan of the Daily Mail, who's quite up to date on the SPFL's rules suggested that plastic pitches is 9-3 vote, as it's a rule change as opposed to an Amendment to the Articles of Association - which would be 11-1

    Surely the controversy is reportedly only Premiership voting?

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    Given locations - plus some hosts carrying 'modest' core supports - I doubt 2024 will approach 2023's records, but hopefully we see some good crowds.

    Several games - particularly Luncarty v Crossgates and Whitburn v Whitehill - also have lots riding on them.


    2015          2,269     average 379          16 goals     2.7 per game
    2016          2,002     average 334          16 goals     2.7 per game          (1 game was unintended*)
    2017          1,303     average 261          18 goals     3.6 per game          (5 games only)
    2018              886     average 222          29 goals     7.3 per game          (4 games only as 2 postponed^)
    2019          2,271     average 379          30 goals     5.0 per game
    2021          2,240     average 374          29 goals     4.9 per game
    2022          2,383     average 398          19 goals     3.2 per game

    2023          3,025     average 505          17 goals     2.9 per game
    Total       16,379     average 364       174 goals     3.9 per game


    *Civil Service Strollers v Leith Athletic was a last-minute substitute after Preston Athletic v Threave Rovers was postponed waterlogged shortly before kickoff
    ^Lothian Thistle HV v Tynecastle and Peebles Rovers v Ormiston were waterlogged and snowbound respectively



    618     Linlithgow Rose v Jeanfield Swifts
    607     Tranent v Bo'ness United
    584     Hill of Beath Hawthorn v Linlithgow Rose
    557     Musselburgh Athletic v Broxburn Athletic
    553     Dunbar United v Coldstream

    517     Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic v Dalbeattie Star
    507     Bo'ness United v Civil Service Strollers

    491     East Kilbride v Whitehill Welfare

    462     Haddington Athletic v Dundonald Bluebell
    462     Threave Rovers v Edinburgh University
    448     Tynecastle v Sauchie

    435     Spartans v University of Stirling
    434     Crossgates Primrose v Penicuik Athletic
    418     Edinburgh City v East Kilbride
    410     Glenrothes v Kinnoull
    401     Newtongrange Star v Tranent
    400     Dalbeattie Star v Edinburgh City


    398     Penicuik Athletic v Lothian Thistle HV
    380     Dunipace v Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic
    371     Dundonald Bluebell v Tranent
    366     Gretna 2008 v Dalbeattie Star
    365     Oakley United v Easthouses Lily
    356     Camelon v Edinburgh United
    328     Blackburn United v Preston Athletic
    324     Whitehill Welfare v Gala Fairydean Rovers
    323     Gala Fairydean Rovers v University of Stirling
    312     Vale of Leithen v Preston Athletic
    309     Dalkeith Thistle v Tweedmouth Rangers
    301     Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts v Heriot-Watt University

    294     Edinburgh University v Selkirk
    288     Peebles Rovers v Newtongrange Star
    287     Hawick RAU v East Stirlingshire
    281     Selkirk v Spartans
    278     Broxburn Athletic v Dundonald Bluebell
    278     Kelty Hearts v Tweedmouth Rangers
    267     Coldstream v Tynecastle
    263     Preston Athletic v Cumbernauld Colts
    259     Ormiston v Leith Athletic
    235     Mid Annandale v Lochmaben
    228     Easthouses Lily v Glenrothes
    227     Eyemouth United v Lothian Thistle HV
    219     Caledonian Braves v Edinburgh University
    207     Heriot-Watt University v Leith Athletic
    166     Burntisland Shipyard v Preston Athletic
    165     Civil Service Strollers v Leith Athletic*


    *Civil Service Strollers v Leith Athletic was a last-minute substitute after Preston Athletic v Threave Rovers was postponed shortly before kickoff

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