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5 hours ago, djchapsticks said:
A few folk have said it's all black with a bit of pink trim but I've seen nothing further than that.
If true, hopefully we get Bret Hart to model it
Inter Miami esq
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14 minutes ago, Shuggie_Murray7 said:
I was listening the Misery Hunters season review and found the conversation about the way supporters treat our youth graduates when they make their way into the first team very interesting.
It got me thinking about the latest crop of youngsters in the squad and which ones could really force their way into the team regularly.
Among this current crop we've got some strikers - which I don't really ever recall from us before - and I have concerns that if they don't start scoring 10-15 a season, a section of the support will turn on them - similar to the way they did with Jack Baird and Marc McAusland - which I really hope doesn't happen. Evean more recently, there were ones giving Erhahon a hard time.
Don't get me wrong, this is usually from "yer da" types, who think anyone who comes through the ranks should be a diehard supporter and whenever anythign goes wrong, they're to blame. A nonsense.
As for the upcoming season, I've got high hope for young Fraser Taylor. In his fleeting glimpses towards the tail-end of last season, I liked what I saw. He's very tidy in possession and plays the simple pass and just keeps possession of the ball. He's a very calm on the ball for someone so young. The obvious roadblock for him could be his size - or lack of - but I really hope he gets more opportunities this season.
It does feel like a wee while since we brought a very successful one through - like a McAllister, Morgan, Mallan, McGinn, McLean etc. I know we had Erhahon last year, but he had be in and around the squad for a couple of seasons and things only really seemed to start clicking for him last season.
Who do we reckon will be the next one to burst onto the scene and into the first team regularly?
I'm a big fan of Erhahon and accepted his flaws and that he had time on his side with his age, to correct. It's a shame the early part of his development was somewhat hampered by being played at left-back due to injuries in the squad. He may have not got near the first team at all at that stage if it were not for injuries, though you are talking around 18 months or so playing a completely different role. I felt the club wasted an opportunity to loan him out and get him the game time he required in his natural position. We did so for the likes of Cammy Macpherson and Ethan was a better player.
Fortunately we had one or two in the squad who took the mantle of his place in midfield when he left for Lincoln, though I do think he was more effective.
I still believe if he knuckles down at Lincoln, he could get a bigger move and potentially get a Scotland call up in the next few years ahead.
Moving on to current youth prospects, I do agree on Taylor, he does seem to have something there. It's very difficult for young players to come into an already competitive setup, especially when the club are striving to push top 6 each season. For strikers/forwards, if they are not showing stats on goals or assists, its an easy target. I do feel with the likes of Taylor though, there is not as much pressure on him to deliver these as long as he's performing well and showing he can play as good as the players around him.
Jamieson for me is within an age bracket of make or break at the club. I personally feel he is there as a lower wage option so we are not short in numbers.
Offord, I know the academy rate very highly. The difference with Kieran is, he has a little more time with his age on his side. For his development, I think the club may try to look at championship level to loan him out to so he's getting regular game time at a good level.1 -
46 minutes ago, houston_bud said:
Speaking of inconsistent wingers, I noticed Dylan Connolly is back in the League of Ireland with Bohemians.
One of the fastest players I've seen, absolutely terrorised £20m Calvin Bassey in the league cup game when we turned Rangers over.
28 years old and been at about a dozen clubs.
Coincidentally I just looked him up the other day too as a sponsored his home jersey that season with us and came across it in my drawer.
Thought he was a very useful player
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41 minutes ago, Ric said:
Slight side step in the topic, how much do we think St Mirren are worth?
The reason I ask is that in the papers today there is talk of a St Johnstone buy out, and that the value is in the region of £10m. I seem to remember when Gilmour left, we were valued at a couple of million, the joke at the time was that the OF could buy a player for their bench that was the equivalent price to buying our club. Obviously that was some time back but I don't think inflation has increased our value by that much.
It's never a like for like comparison of course, we have things St Johnstone don't and vice versa, and this isn't really asking about their valuation, but more I wonder what people think it would take to purchase St Mirren - not that it would happen any time soon, and not that I'm advocating that either.
I think with our situation on our takeover, changing from the hands of fans who owned the club (Gilmour & co) to SMISA, also fans, it made the value much smaller as the owners at the time just wanted their money back that they had invested and into the right hands of supporters.
A lot has changed since then and I think our value is much more, though how much I am unsure. On comparisons with St Johnstone, you would think we would be similar considering the similarities in club size and assets.0 -
28 minutes ago, Shuggie_Murray7 said:
£500k or above would be enough to get him I reckon.
If he hadn't made the World Cup squad and wasn't getting consistently picked since then, I'd have said that was a fair price, though the fact he is a full international for a team that made the last 16 of WC, I'd say we need to be looking at slightly more, say 750k + add-ons.
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36 minutes ago, pozbaird said:
I, and I suspect many others, would care about a Renfrewshire derby if it saw St Mirren and Morton be drawn together in the Scottish or League Cups, or, hard as this may be to imagine, if they somehow were in the top flight with us. As far as the Renfrewshire Cup is concerned, well, I’m not bothered one iota. I see this very much as a fixture I just hope no first teamers pick up an injury in.
I think it's more of a thing for Morton fans to get excited about. It has lost it's spark as a pre-season fixture since probably the early naughties.
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42 minutes ago, Captain_Sensible said:
Folk saying that Baccus wasn’t the same after returning from the WC
But as someone else pointed out, Baccus’ downturn in form also coincided with Erhahon leaving.
Erhahon played the holding midfield role that allowed Baccus to play. Gogic doesn’t sit back and play the holding role like Erhahon did. In addition, Gogic was frequently used in defence meaning that Baccus had to play the holding midfield role.
That's a good way of looking at it.
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10 minutes ago, AW saint said:
Ryan strain is the one player we really need to sign on a new deal. He is better than Baccus.
Still expecting Baccus to go once the transfer window opens.
Yeah I agree. Baccus' game seemed to change a bit once he returned from the World Cup. He's possibly been running on empty for a while.
Strain has been a magnificent signing. Can't remember such an effective right back in recent years.
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4 hours ago, Eednud said:
Ryan Strain and Keanu Baccus are in a 23 Australian squad for June 15 friendly against Argentina in Beijing.
Would love it If we could convince both to sign an extension for at least another year to protect ourselves from either no transfer activity this summer, or to hold their value beyond the next window.
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27 minutes ago, Wilbur said:
A 15 goals a season striker in the Premiership is probably a pipedream for a club like St Mirren.
I think we should be aspiring to sign two or three 12-15 goals a season players instead.
That would do !!!
You never really know how it's going to work until they are bedded into the team. We have had plenty of players who were pretty prolific before coming to us only to score a handful a season.
The players who don't have as impressive a goalscoring record previous to coming up here haven't done too badly. Sometimes you just need to take a punt on a player if stats other than goals add up
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14 hours ago, AW saint said:
That's what I love about pre season all the speculation.
His goals return looks worse than Jamieson
He would be out of our league if his stats were showing up 25-30 goals per season. Was rated a high prospect at Palace and was doing great for their u23 team.
I've trusted the signings so far from Robinson. Imo Olunsanya looks to be the only one that hasn't quite worked out 'yet'.
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1 hour ago, capt_oats said:
I mean, there *is* a reserves league - not a very good one but it exists all the same. https://spfl.co.uk/league/rl1/table
Genuine (no snark) question, how come St Mirren aren't in it? Presumably that's been a choice?
How come there is only 9 games played per team?
If it is still active i guess its at a cost where as it was maybe mandatory in the past.
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15 hours ago, billyg said:
I heard a whisper there has been disquiet at the academy . Apparently everything up to the 16 year olds is fine , but the older boys are not enjoying it and are reportedly wanting out , hence the likes of Murray Campbell is leaving .
There is a real need for a reserve league again, this is why boys are falling off the system.
When you reach the age of around 18-20/21 and you are not getting a sniff near the first team and you are cut off from the under 18s, it must be a limbo situation unless you are sent out on loan. If we had a reserves league back where there is no age limit, it would help with these players.
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14 hours ago, Passionate said:
Lewis Jamieson I believe is out of contract , is that correct, if so has he been offered a new deal, noticed he has been on the bench fo r the last while, do you guys think he can make it..
Signed a 1 year extension the other week.
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2 hours ago, Shuggie_Murray7 said:
McGrath wouldn't get anywhere near our starting 11.
Liam Smith would be a decent squad player. Not much else from those United releases that I'd even entertain TBH.
I'd take Smith. Can play either side. Would be a downgrade on Strain if he were to leave though the fact he can cover both sides is a positive
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4 hours ago, Captain_Sensible said:
Tempted to say it’s because we have no good young players coming through. But we did have Dylan Reid and back in the day these youngsters would have been able to come through and get games before getting sold.
That and the OF hoovering up all the pro youth
I genuinely think the timing of Reids contract running out was unfortunate as i felt that next season was probably going to be his chance of stepping up, if he had extended his stay.
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1 hour ago, AW saint said:
This looks like a pre season of change. We could get bids in for O'Hara, Baccus or strain along with players leaving.
Lots of scope to improve the squad.
One person I hope we tie down soon is Robbo.
Wonder also if Tait will be let go and Olusanya.
For whatever reason, Olunsanya was not playing as regular as I expected at Arbroath. Could it have been tactical, lack of fitness or injury? Doesn't fill me with much hope he will be around for next season.
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1 hour ago, djchapsticks said:
If County go down I'd love to see Yan Dhanda in a Saints shirt but could see him going somewhere like Hibs.
100% all for this. Stand out player in that team
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15 hours ago, Passionate said:
Hi guys, not normally a poster on Premier League sites for obvious reasons,,, quick question how bad was Ian Murray when he was your manager, was it 12 games or so he was in charge for(no research done)... I remember being the next big thing after a successful stint at Dumbarton, Everybody still talks about his St Mitten days surely they weren't that bad..
Airdrie picked him really a broken man after 2 years in Iceland, gradually you could tell he had something it took a while right enough, was consistently good a limited resource d Airdrie and steadied the ship at Raith after there self induced screw ups..
now linked heavily with a return to the Premier with Dundee....
did the media drive him out, support hound him or generally useless...
hopefully play you guys again soon, miss the view from the Caledonia Stand was the best stand in football..
He was clueless at the time and his signings were abysmal.
There was a lit of chat from his time at. Dumbarton, his assisant Jack Ross was the brains behind the operation. Could be wrong, though Ross had already made his way to Hearts ( i think) by the time he Murray came to us, so he never took him with him.0 -
17 hours ago, Captain_Sensible said:
With Shaughnessy not yet signed, Gallagher not being fully fit and Dunne away, we definitely need another central defender if we’re going to continue with 3 at the back.
I don’t know much about Bedeau (I keep thinking of ‘Any which way you can’ when I see this name) but maybe he can also play in the centre?
Strength in depth!
Seems that we are already in the hunt for 2 defenders, on the basis of at least one leaving and the two in question have been spoken to. Imo Dunne will be away and Shaugnessy might just stay.
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3 hours ago, Coventry Saint said:
I believe the option is ours to extend. I honestly keep forgetting he's here. Maybe he'll get some minutes in the remaining games, which are almost dead rubbers now.
We were forced into a couple of our subs on Saturday due to knocks. He may get his chance of more time off the bench in the last few games as you say, if we are trying to change a game plan.
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1 hour ago, Lola montez said:
I noticed a real change in Greive at the Hearts game, he was far more willing to get tore in putting his weight about and chasing every ball, a close season programme with a strength coach and some protein drinks would see him make huge gains for the start of next season and really push on.
I'd said on Saturday, for the time he was on the park, thats the best I've seen him. If whenever got taken off injured, who knows, he may have came up with the winner.
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4 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:
There's a few Saints fans talking Moult up on twitter as potentially one of the players we've offered to.
I'm saying he's not on three fronts.
1) He's completely and utterly broken at this point. His season long loan deal at Motherwell got cut short after about half a dozen games as he is so injured. Which is a shame as a fit Louis Moult would have been a fucking get and a half.
2) Robinson in the quote above mentioned players hitting prime years and maximising their earnings, so clearly speaking of Dunne and Main who are both 30 and need to get a big move, suggesting the players he's offering to are younger. Moult, at 31 doesn't fit this demographic at all. This likely rules out 29 year old Cole Stockton as well.
3) Unless he is strictly offered a PAYP deal, then he's going to be an earner in the Watt or Brophy category and far, far too high a risk to take for someone who has started 4 games of football and played 700 or so minutes in the last 4 years.
It's a fucking massive 'no' from me.
I'd taken it the same as yourself. Bedeau is contracted, as is the boy from Fulham. Surely couldn't open contract talks on under contract players, unless something has been agreed in principal with their clubs.
I genuinely thought Louis Moult retired after his short stint at Motherwell due to injuries. Seems far too high a risk with his injury history. We are already needing to wait till around October on Ayunga returning, so we need players fit and ready.
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13 minutes ago, Shuggie_Murray7 said:
It's not the first time this season SR has made a very early sub becasue someone is on a booking. I don't agree with it. It wasn't like Taylor was having a nightmare and was all over the place on his booking. He was one of the best 2 players on the park in the fiurst half for me and I was pretty calm about him playing on with a booking.
They are professional footballers and should have enough discipline to manage their own game when on a booking. Subbing off one of our top 2 or 3 players in that first half completely changed the way we played in the second. SR has done an unbelievable job for us, but that is something I have found quite annoying this season.
As for Dunne, a few weeks ago I'd liked him to have signed a new deal and stayed. At this stage though, I'm totally cool with him going now. His head has gone and he's clearly already thinking about moving on. He has been a bombscare for the best part of 6 weeks now. Get rid.
I said it weeks ago. He seems like a very confident character, though his confidence doesn't match his footballing ability a lot of the time. Always prone to a mistake defensively, always opts for a long ball, which almost always ends up back with the opposition. He also drops in the complete unneccessary foul time and time again.
The Killie game a couple of weeks ago was simply enough for me. Will not be missed.0
The St. Mirren FC 2023/24 thread
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I think thats a couple of League One clubs in England been quoted to be interested in him. I'd very much doubt a club at that level will pay our valuation of the player (whatever that is). His international recognition should surely set us asking for 500-700k upwards based upon his remaining time on his contract.