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32 minutes ago, Drooper said:
Dundee edging closer to us by a point was a price worth paying for the point and laugh value derived from their result against the hapless Rainjurs.
As others have already said, this has been a successful season by any realistic measure. Anyone who doesn't think this has a very short memory or is as deluded as P. Clement Esq.
It would be great and not impossible to pick something up in the first home game leading into the game at Dens.
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2 hours ago, MenstrieSaint said:
The way I see it , both Dundee and ourselves will lose to the old firm .
We then go to Dundee and if we get a draw there we will probably only need one more draw from tbe next two home games to get fifth place .
I actually think the timing of the Rangers at home works for us. We need to get home form back on track and I think our 3 home results will be absolutely decisive on where we finish. We pulled off an out of nowhere performance vs Celtic last season at home and I cant see why we cant again if we rise to it. I get the fear of Rugby Park vibes for the away game at Dundee, where the big occasion gets to us. Hearts and Killie at home, I feel we have to come away from both with points.
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3 hours ago, buddie06smfc said:
Agreed on Hemming, he’s been fine but nothing special. Recently, he’s been a disaster waiting to happen at corners flying out clattering into anyone in hope of a foul.
He’s done a job but I wouldn't consider him long term, even if we could afford it, and definitely can improve on him. Nowhere near player of the season, Gogic and Kiltie are the front runners IMO. I would probably plump for Kiltie at that, I think he’s been great this season.
Has he not had something like 15/16 clean sheets? Thats a decent return for a goalkeeper and the season isnt finished yet.
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2 minutes ago, weebud said:
That's the point surely, he already has a decent deal. Every club at our level has to have a realistic ceiling to what they can offer and what they can afford to pay, if he is already at that limit then that's just life for a provincial club. Incidentally, I think he has been our Player of the Year and would love him to stay at the club.
I think at the time when he signed for us, he had offers from clubs in Europe. I'm sure one day soon he would like to return to Cyprus and settle with his family.
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3 hours ago, Norrie82 said:
The manager has built the team around Gogic let’s not start putting the guy down. Yes he’s had a couple of bad games but he’s been brilliant for us and without him I’d say we’d have lost a lot more - aggressive and fast he’s a success for sure
Where did i put him down? I think for what its worth hes been one of our most solid players this season.Ithink you have misread me.
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13 minutes ago, callum-g said:
Really ? So you think we would offer him a reduced deal as a reward for being one of our most consistent performers and being an integral part of the team that has just achieved back to back top 6 finishes ??
Glad you’re not in charge of my annual performance bonus review team !
I'm just going on the basis that Main was offered less when a new deal was on the table as it was outside the wage structure. The club are looking at reducing the wage cap. They pushed the boat out for Gogic. I'm not saying he's not worth his wage, i'm just going by what has happened previously and from what ive heard.
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11 hours ago, djchapsticks said:
Perhaps unpopular opinion here but i would not be pushing the boat out for Gogic.
He's consistent enough on the whole but he has had far too many enormous and costly brain farts and so many more that he's gotten away with. I'd rather we kept him but I wouldn't be pushing our budget to any extremes to do so.
He's apparently our highest earner. I can't see us going all out to pay him more than what he's currently on. Gogic himself may only be willing to stay if we make europe also.
Imo he would be offered a lesser contract just like Main was on reduced terms.
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4 hours ago, Handsome_Devil said:
So lads, Brian Caldwell, any good?
Fun fact. He's the stepdad of St Mirren supporting DJ Ewan McVicar.
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24 minutes ago, pozbaird said:
On or off, he didn’t half make an arse of it.
In regard to a previous point about the manner of our defeat, and a ‘brain fart’ gubbing being preferable to being robbed by VAR or shafted by a refereeing decision, I understand the jist of that, but… if we’re going to lose by three goals to a rival of similar size and stature, I’d rather we didn’t do it by being 2-0 up after 53 minutes, but manage to ship five goals in the time it takes to scoff a Big Yardley Breakfast.
Agree with this. Being 2-0 up and then going on to lose is criminal, especially in the manner we did.
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21 hours ago, SausageRolls111 said:
Absolute stonewaller? Really? The first body contact is made by Olusyana. He sees the ball going slightly loose, looks to get his body in front of Devlin, and actually elbows into him fractionally before Devlin contacts him. I'm not even sure if Olusanya is interested in getting the ball, as I think he is doing what too many players do nowadays - try to get in front of the defender to initiate contact, then fall down regardless. And he certainly isn't "controlling" it.
What a bizarre take on it. Having a go at the player for trying to win the ball whilst we were chasing the game. If anything he should more determination than Devlin to win the ball.
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Just now, craigkillie said:
Just to be clear, you think that St Mirren are not overperforming by sitting in 4th place in the Premiership?We are there on merit, though I guess its when you put it into perspective the bigger clubs below us such as Hibs, Aberdeen with more resources.
Apart from those two, there isn't a huge difference between the rest apart from possibly Livingston.
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5 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:
Doesnt matter how much money youve got, youve still to spend it well.
Im not saying St Mirren are shite/lucky and you shouldnt celebrate it, just that this idea youre massively overachieving is stupid and playing down your own club for absolutely no reason.
Clubs that can average over 5k fans should be chasing Europe and trophies every decade, not thanking their lucky stars theyll be blessed with a top 6 finish every so often.
Imo there was a shift in mentality as soon as SMISA took over in 2016. It's been progress each year since then and fromwithin, we are not accepting to being a bottom 3/4 club regardless of the budgets other clubs have. Tony Fitz publicly came out and believed we should have been aiming higher and he got laughed off for it. We have put more at it towards our budget over the last couple of years and we have added more home fans to our gates most notably post covid when all was meant to be doom and gloom.
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10 minutes ago, Div said:
With Burrows at Aberdeen there will always be a chance that Robinson will feature on their list.
I think the Goodwin failure would probably put Cormack off though. He absolutely cannot afford to get another appointment badly wrong and although it would be spectacularly unfair on Robbo, I think their fans would see an approach for him as just a repetition of the Goody mistake.
Cormack doesn't have any goodwill in the bank these days, he can't have the fans agitated about the new appointment from day one.
Same goes for McInnes - the majority of Dons fans would be furious if they went back in for him I reckon.
Besides - why would either of those fine fellas be interested in trading European football for a year in the Championship?
I think it's only natural he has been linked. Robbo alongside McInness have done tremendous on similar budgets lower than that of some of the teams around us.
They have tried this approach already with Goodwin and it failed. They then employed from within and it failed and they have tried the tested veteran in Warnock and it has failed.
I can see them either appointing a left field option from overseas or look at what is available down south within their budget. Gary Monk who was just appointed Cambridge manager wouldn't have been a bad shout imo.
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2 hours ago, Shuggie_Murray7 said:
Interesting - https://www.stmirren.com/club-news/5337-club-statement-var-error-v-ross-county
In this instance, a "whoops, our bad, soz" won't do much to appease the club or supporters in their belief that the officials operating VAR just aren't up to scratch.
Personally, I think VAR has its value, but it should be shelved until we have officials capable of using it properly.
That non-decision could ultimately cost us European football. In instances like this, where such a blatant f**k up has been made, there should be some sort of explanation put forward as to why and how the mistake was made - otherwise there's absolutely no trust or confidence that it will be implemented properly going forward.
IF we were awarded it and IF we scored it at the timing of the incident, it could have well had a brighter outcome going in level at half time and chasing a winner second half.
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1 hour ago, houston_bud said:
Listened to a bit of Sportsound from last night. Interesting that Steven Thompson and Richard Gordon didn't think it should've been a handball but that the shirt pull should've been a penalty.
Was that during the game, half time or post match?
I personally didnt think the shirt pull was a pen at all. Looking back at the replays it's a definite hand then head. They said during the game that the incident that VAR monitored was the pull in the box and they must not have looked beyond that, though the fact his arm was up next to his head, surely that moment should have been caught when they were trimming down the replay?
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2 hours ago, Bastian Pigclimber said:
I noticed Olusanya was playing on the left of the front three last night. I have thought for a while that would be his best position.
Thats where he played im sure when he scored his last goal which was taken to VAR and it stood.
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2 hours ago, sergie's no1 fan said:
Nah I don't buy the VAR bail out, Gogic made a mistake for their goal and was punished for it. That defender made a mistake in handling the ball, we may have missed the penalty (probably would have the way we were playing) but we should have had the opportunity to do so.
Its an absolute shocker of a decision regardless of how shite we were. All the VAR checks were done in rapid time, can you see the same happening in an old firm derby? It has just proved they don't give a toss about the rest of the league, every result has ramifications for several teams.
Can't see Aitken being allowed to officiate in Paisley for a while now. Rant just about over, sorry
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To be fair to County they put a lot into the first half, pressed us all over the place and made it very difficult for us to get into a rhythm. They fell away in the 2nd half, probably due to fatigue and we got stronger the more the game went on.
I don't care if Baccus is leaving in the summer, he has to start every game from now on for me.
Olusanya, Ayunga and Scott all had an impact coming off the bench. Scott has to score that chance though, won't do his confidence any good.
We deserved a point, could have been 3. At least we got something from the game.
The fact it was on Sky Sports as well, you would have thought there would have been extra scrutiny around the check. For a penalty claim you surely need to have more than 5 seconds on it to look at the play. a few seconds before and after 'the incident', which in this case they focussed on a potential pull in the box. Had they looked at it for a 2-3 seconds beyond that, they would have seen the handball.
Huge part of our game that was missing was deliveries into the box from Tansner and dead ball deliveries into the box. Both were absolutely woeful. Neither right back could get a ball high enough into the box and Tanser couldn't get one decent cross in to anyone either.
A lot of the deadfall stuff landed on Boyd-Munce and he just wasn't at it either.
Saying all of that, to rescue a point late on after a frustrating night isn't an easy thing. We left our best chances of the game till the end and converted one of them.
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2 hours ago, buddie06smfc said:
Would be a no brainer IMO. We wouldn’t be able to afford a player of his quality outright so why not take advantage of a loan when as you say he improves us as a team.
I'm with this completely. I think he's a great player and one that would have been outwith our reach on a permanent deal. No disrepect to the boy, though Celtic are constantly in the market for players and he will be pushed further down the order, so he is doing the right thing. He hasn't needed to up sticks and move elsewhere too. He's able to travel from Glasgow.
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On 21/02/2024 at 00:43, Dirty Sanchez said:
I walked through these guys while they were looking for Dundee fans after the recent game. What struck me was that there were actually some older, fairly formidable looking characters amongst them, in contrast to the type of guys you'd normally expect to see in these groups.
I remember around 10-12 years ago, I was getting the bus home from a home game and a guy sitting across from me dressed in casual attire started chatting to me about the game. He revealed he wasn't at the game and was a fan of another team that joined with St Mirren casuals as he loved a scrap. Never went to the game, just joined in on the pre and post match stuff with the opposition. Don't know if that's still a thing though found it odd.
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44 minutes ago, SS77 said:
If he had any connection to St Mirren prior to becoming manager then he wouldn’t have got half the stick he has. Goodwin got away with murder purely because of who he was.
The club is in far better shape on and off the park now with Robinson in charge and long may it continue.
100%
I personally know at least one or two who still can't take to him. I don't know if it's that they can't swallow their pride and admit they were wrong and take an opportunity like Saturday to use as an excuse to throw abuse again.
His first full season, he got us our highest finish in my lifetime supporting the club and he is on course for another successful season if we keep momentum going. We were never sitting this high under previous management.
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30 minutes ago, houston_bud said:
The 'ultras' have made a difference to the atmosphere and it's definitely better for it. But if the trade off is that means we need to endure wee fannies looking to cause bother, then I'd rather see it all binned. It seems to be creeping into a lot of clubs now, whilst it's not exactly the Shadwell Army, it's still not nice for folk to get caught up in it. Especially if you're trying to take kids, or there's older folk there.
The clubs probably need to put their heads together and come up with something to try and nip it in the bud, I think it's difficult for individual teams to tackle it alone.
It seemed to be ( i could be wrong) the Northbank boys who formed 7/8 years ago, set out to bring colour, visuals and atmosphere back to the club. As that part of the support gained a larger army of followers over the last few years, a minority casual culture seems to have connected its self to it, outwith NB1877s hands.
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20 minutes ago, Hendo said:
Ryan Hardie was shite for us, mind you so was Shankland ( in his second loan spell at least). We were a proper strikers graveyard back in 2016.
Ryan Hardie for us = Terrible
Shankland first spell = Tremendous - Second spell = Overweight/unfit and blowing out his arse. He then spent second half of season at Morton where he failed to impress also. Thats when he took the drop down a level to Ayr and the rest is history.
Remember Rory Loy had two spells with us years apart. Barely featured first time, though an integral part of our first season under Jack Ross second time round.0 -
12 hours ago, MenstrieSaint said:
We played very well today , lost a bit of energy for the last quarter , but in general a good performance, we would have benefited from having OHara and Kwon available to bring fresh legs to the midfield and as the season progresses having the extra cover in midfield might swing a few close games in our favour .
Think we are still very much an on form team and if we keep up our current form we should be pushing for top four . Thinking European football is a distinct possibility.
What cost us yesterday was not tracking one of the best strikers in the league. The space Kyogo had for the first should never have happened. He then went on to have another two opportunities only minutes later, left completely unmarked. Maeda, seemed like he didnt turn it on till second half. His pace was causing us bother and he eventually got a chance he tucked away.
Other than the marking for the goals, I thought we played magnificent. It really is good to see a manager set out to win against the bigger sides, rather than sit back and hope to keep the score down, which we have witnessed many of times before Robinsons arrival. Setting out with an attacking formation shows that even though there will be a lot of tracking back when out of posession, we are ready to also cause them issues going forward.
Baccus seemed to take a knock into the second half. Hopefully nothing too serious as we are as light as it is in the middle of the park.
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23 hours ago, sergie's no1 fan said:
Who gets dropped though.
Bolton has been superb, no coincidence the defence has tightened up since his run of starts in the team.
Gogic is a warrior and Marcus Fraser is Mr Reliable every week.
Taylor brings balance to the back 3 as Fraser is obviously right footed and it sticks out playing on the left of the 3.
As for the arse cheeks in the away end, when does it become a genuine health and safety issue for the club? Rangers fans end up filling every seat and stairwell, you can't actually see the yellow in the stands because of it. The stand is over full, the club could get into shit for it. Folk must be passing on their qr code to their mates without a ticket.
Half their away allocation and cut out their nonsense.
The QR code will only work once. Unless someone is at it and complaining to stewards their ticket doesn't work because of an 'error'.
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The St. Mirren FC 2023/24 thread
in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
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The COVID loan is 20 year interest free. All but 2 clubs (I think) used the covid loan and all took out different loan amounts. We could literally pay it back over 20 years at as low as 100k+.
We have changed our model and its having a positive effect.