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I haven't been that scunnered with a decision since we had a goal reversed sans var against Hamilton 15 years ago They say to cause an upset you need to be at your best and for the opponents to have an off day. Well that's no longer enough. Now they have a new system in place to just invent penalties out of nothing. They say it's the hope that kills you. You expect some resolute defending followed by a sucker punch. You don't even get that any more, it's just a blow of the whistle and a 4 minute delay of the inevitable. Every single person in the ground knows what's coming even though not a single one actually saw an offence, all standing around looking at each other bemused. The game is rigged, what's the fucking point

Our game is fucked. Get those two bigoted b*****ds of clubs and their fans to f**k out of our league asap please.

I wouldn't consider myself 'old' by any means, but I already have arthritis (just diagnosed the other week) and short term memory loss associated with hand-me-down conditions on my mother's side of the family. Still, at least I don't have arthritis yet.

I bet they were trafficked late then three arrived at once.

I’m lost. Why are we harping on about the NB group? That was a proposal that was put to the club and rejected so I’m not sure why it’s relevant now? People seem to be having a pop at Patrons, what have I missed? As far as I’m aware these are a group of people who have put significant money into the club at a time of need for next to f**k all in return. Why do people feel they have the right to know every last detail about who has invested, how much they have invested and how many shares they had/have?

You are on the wrong thread if you want to talk about the actual game of football mate. This one is specifically for bickering and smart arsed comments.

Anton dowds pen to send the fifers out

With Montrose idle I took in this Festival of Incompetence at Balmoor. Firstly, a beautiful day but absolutely Arctic, and it became clear that whoever handled the strong wind blowing up the ground would take the points. Clyde had the wind at their back in the first half and had a couple of good opportunities; both falling to the no. 9. One saw him bearing down on the Peterhead keeper after one or two nice passes but the goalie won the battle; secondly an abysmal sclaff from a Peterhead defender (no.6) played him in but again the forward unable to take advantage. The frustrating thing about the game was that both sides played as though it was a completely calm day. With such a high wind short sharp passing is needed and forget the long ball. Unfortunately both teams, largely, did the opposite. The wind was so strong that the ball quivered whenever it was placed for a corner or free kick; both teams went for the default blooter rather than keeping on the ground and trying to move it quickly. With the game scoreless at half time, it seemed as though pre-match predictions were coming to pass; both teams the mangy curs of Division One scrapping toothlessly over a pointless bone, desperate for the footballing vet to come along with his big needle and put an end to a miserable campaign. The second half was a little better than the near-subterranean bar of the first. What proved to be the winner came after a flurry of corners for Peterhead; the ball bobbled around in the box, the Clyde cludgie unable to clear the blockage, and wee Shanks cheekily back-heeled the ball home from an angle just inside the six yard box, past the sprawling Parry. Huge celebrations from the team and the home support and the goal really gave Peterhead an energy. Shanks was possessed for the next ten minutes, bullying the slothful Clyde no 14 off the ball inside his own half on a few occasions. Big Fosu upfront for the Fishy Jailers is an unguided missle; you never know what to expect from him. He's a limited player but very willing and a trier. He should have has Peterhead further ahead when he met a lovely right wing cross by the penalty spot, but somehow scrambled the header wide. A few minutes afterthere was an almighty scramble in the box and uncertainty from the Clyde keeper as the ball floated and swirled like a balloon at the end of a wind tunnel; somehow the ball stayed out with shots blocked by Clyde defenders. Jim Duffy seemed to regard the game with the indifference of a man at breakfast, thirty years into an unhappy marriage. He looked glum and miserable throughout. Bringing Rennie on for his debut seemed to ginger Clyde up a bit and for the last fifteen minutes they had the lions' sure of the possession and attack. However, watching Clyde trying to attack at present is like watching a drunk try to eat an avocado with a screwdriver. Peterhead's defence was more or less assured in dealing with the visitors' clumsy efforts, with the goalkeeper not having a save of significance to make. It was more nerves and mind games in the home defence that threatened an error. A couple of things to conclude. Firstly a crowd of nearly 700 on a totally freezing day who care enough about the fortunes of two such poor teams is a credit to both and I have to complement a good humoured Clyde support whose persistent chanting for their team was by far the most impressive thing about their club today. Of the two I have more optimism about Peterhead. Yes they are a very limited side who've had a terrible season for one reason and another but there are green shoots there. I thought they defended quite well with big Joshua and Jason Brown having good games at the back. The on loan keeper was decent. I was also quite impressed with young Jack Waddell and Shanks, a livewire confidence striker. Davie Robertson may just get enough of a tune out of this charity shop fiddle to see it in the play offs at the end of the season, a task which looked hugely optimistic when he was appointed a few weeks back. Glad that it's not really my problem where Clyde go from here. What a sorry mess the club is in.

Anyway before I drink the day away, f**k Celtic, f**k VAR, f**k Clancy, f**k Celtic, f**k Napier, f**k the SFA and f**k Celtic. And f**k Rangers an all for good measure.

Like I said 90% of his signings have been an utter disaster. He signed like 1 of those players that played any major part of those cup runs. Tommy Wright signed the rest. Since he's been allowed to sign players he's signed 3-4 players for quite significant money. None of them have played. One released after 4 games another out on loan in Ireland until his contract expires. He's had more money to spend than every manager since the 90's has had combined. Here's some examples for you that'll evidence the point. Don't listen to everything you hear his agent say on Sportsound. Vertainen - played 3-4 times then shipped out on loan. 40k Mahon - 100k played 2-3 league game and release for nothing after 12 months with another 2 year on his deal. Crawford - the fans really don't like him. Will have 1 good game and then 7 shite ones. Was given a 3 year deal despite not impressing during a loan period. Dendoncker - sent back 6 months early during his loan spell. Muller - recalled because Davidson wasn't playing him. Butterfield - unfit, absolutely past it and released after 6 months. MacPherson - ALWAYS injured. Paid a fee for him despite him already being at the club on loan and had already signed a pre contract. The club was ran rings round them by St. Mirren. Ingram - signed and did not play a single minute before being released. Reece Devine - recalled as Davidson wasn't playing him. Theo Bair - 6ft 3 target man who can't jump, win headers or compete physically whatsoever. 40k. 1 goal. Charlie Gilmour - Jesus fucking Christ. Effe Ambrose, signed played 5-6 games then was completely jettisoned from the squad. Ended being sent out on loan for the remainder of his contract after being at the club probably 8-10 weeks. Solomon-otobar - produced very little. Left after like 3 months. Zero goals 2 year deals to multiple players in their mid 30's. Considine who's played well but a 2 year deal with option of a 3rd at 35? They've offered over 100k for Jordan White. There's been a few that have had pass marks but none and I mean none you'd say have been a brilliant signing. Without question the majority of the fans want him out. They don't expect miracles but the team on the pitch are just absolutely depressing and he combines it by walking out of interviews when asked a question he doesn't want to answer like he's Jose Mourinho. If he does speak, he mostly speaks complete shite. "We played really well" after a 2-0 defeat with no shots on target etc.

Celtic fans on Twitter (lunatics) saying this is all part of the SFA conspiracy. By giving them cheap penalty in a game they’re likely to win it’ll shut up Ange, but they’re not falling for it. A more paranoid bunch of people you will not meet.

Having seen Arbroath FC's efforts and their fans in getting their game on l wish them every success in getting to 8th place or higher.

And that’s why we should be playing a recognised striker…..

It’s absolutely fucking incredible that you managed to win a quadruple treble with all these referees against you. Incredible.

This Binos character is an absolute moron.

Calmed down slightly. What fucking chance do you have? Feel sorry for teams that have to play these prícks multiple times a season.

Time to roll Scottish fitba up and fire it into the bin.

Absolutely disgraceful. Game is fucked.

How’s this for dytedness - in a magazine today I put two fingers on a picture to try and zoom in.

I'm probably in the minority but I love Oliver as a 10...for a smallish guy his ability to take it in & hold it is impressive...nice touches & a power of work...his finishing ain't the best though

Really is embarrassing that a club in professional league can't take basic efforts to protect their pitch knowing what the weather was likely to be and today it is 6 degrees. Clubs need to be held accountable for the state of their pitch. Even the highland league wouldn't let Fort William play while their pitch was a mess yet at tier 2 we have this with Cove and Dens park unable to cope with a spit of rain. Until teams getting official warning, chance to sort it out or threat of games being moved, forfeited or switched to away team playing at home what reason do some of these tinpot clubs have to get off their backside and show a hint of professionalism.

Of course the one club in the country who had the brains to vote against this farce get fucked over by it.

Wingers give width u nob.

Loan deals are announced simultaneously by both clubs. We suggested a time this morning add the media guy (or girl?) at Bonnyrigg asked for 1200 tomorrow. Then their manager put him in the team and nobody informed FFC of the change of plans.

Imagine losing a penalty shootout out to St Mirren without even scoring though

I see Kyle ‘Maldini’ Benedictus missed his penalty to see the Pars knocked out.

Even the sellick fans on Twitter are berating that penalty decision Just let that sink Even the most paranoid c***s, Celtic fans, are criticising that decision

When nose hair and ear hair grows faster and thicker than other body hair.

I could have sworn that Tommy Rae started with Thistle and then went to the Dons. Turns out I was wrong. Pic of the Day Action from the 13th September 1969 as Tommy Rae takes a corner against Morton in front of the South Terrace. The open terraces stretched beyond the full length of the ground. The imposing gasometer dominated the Pittodrie skyline. The half-time scoreboard and original TV gantry were also in view. This was the last area of the old ground to be developed. For the record the game finished 2-2, with a young Joe Harper setting up both the visitors’ goals. A few weeks after this game he was signed by Aberdeen and later that season would help them win the Scottish Cup.

Bump.

Legzdins will also be wearing our tribute GK kit for Dee legend and ex-Buddies player and fan Pat Liney

This is what annoys me, the Rowles one at Tynecastle against St M is probably more of a penalty than that Ambrose one. I dream of a day where the two cheeks f**k off down to England and leave us in peace. The whole Scottish game is geared towards them winning repeatedly to appease their moronic gloryhunting fans

Ridiculous. Doesn't surprise me that that's the case though. Blame every other fucking idiot club who voted this joke of a system in as well. Only Morton can hold their heads up for rightly telling them to shove it up their arse. Horrible bit of irony that they're truly pumped by a rotten VAR decision.

His hand is fucking behind him. What should he do with it, tuck them in? That would never, ever have been given at the other end.

Shut the fucking doors. Football is finished. What an utter disgrace.

Most tinpot by BBC ? Celtic game being on tv the day. At Cappielow maybe aye…but come on

In all seriousness, I deem it a disservice to managers such as John Hughes for any kind of legitimate comparison to be made. Callum Davidson simply isn't a football manager. I'm very grateful for the cup double and I thank Callum for his part in that, but everything that has happened since then (not to mention the fact that the red flags already existed before those cup runs) has honestly given me the impression of a social experiment designed to determine what football supporters will accept after one brief period of unprecedented success. Outwith those few months in 2021, coupled with an improvement in league form at the same time, I can't recall a single redeeming feature of his time in charge. In fact, I can only recall an increasingly long list of ineptitudes both on and off the pitch. I plan to list them all at some point, but that task already seems vast. At the risk of looking stupid in future, I'll stick my neck out and say that Davidson won't be a managerial success at any level of football. A coach, perhaps. A manager, no. I'd previously never witnessed such a level of incompetence, but now I have. I'd currently expect your average man off the street, with zero knowledge of football, to perform equally well as St Johnstone's manager. It's quite astounding.

Both my sisters have booked and will arrive in Thailand on 21st March, not seen them in person for 3 years and 4 years respectfully. They used to come every year, sometimes twice, last time was March '20 when Covid was kicking in and their flight back was cancelled. So much has flowed down the river since then.... Happy times.

Your own body, not the one on the back seat.

You automatically make odd noises/grunt when you sit down or stand up

What actually is this utter fucking drivel?

Good start.

Well VAR is the problem them, because that's how it works. You hear this all the time. "It's not the technology, it's the way it's being used." Yeah, which is an integral part of 'the technology'. It relies on human interpretation, and what we've seen time and again both here and abroad, is that referees can't use that technology to provide better outcomes than they did when they were just refereeing games in the traditional, analogue sense. I'm sure some VAR apologists could come up with some number for whatever increased percentage of decisions are technically correct with VAR, but it's not worth everything that's lost when VAR is used. If Kevin Clancy sees that incident live and gives a penalty (which he didn't, of course), it'd still be wrong but you can forgive it. Football's a fast game and he only gets one look at it. But when you take three minutes out of the game, where everyone in the ground is left on hold, and two referees look at multiple slowed down replays and still think that's a penalty? It's a scandal, and it's VAR that's the root cause.

Seriously puts me off football if that is a penalty. Absolute disgrace of a decision and a rule. His arms are behind him, it's at close range and it deflects. Disgraceful decision

I think that this is the first time that I have seen the word "donate" used, it is usually membership fee or subscription but you have hit the nail on the head, it is a donation, given freely and willingly and without really expecting anything in return. Sure, a vote in who we get on the board etc. but that is about all. We just need to get another couple of thousand fans with that attitude to sign up and give their donations too. #COYB

As far as I am aware, to join the PG you need to have invested a minimum of £10k worth of shares and “proxy” them to the PG. This may be shares you already own, bought, or topped up to make the £10k threshold. There is the possibility some have bought more or added in more over and above the £10k making the actual break down of numbers and who put in what difficult to define. no matter what, £10k for a piece of paper from the club is pretty philanthropic. The emotional ties to the club must be pretty strong for those who have invested. As for the SA / MR argument, yes they have made some absolutely shocking decisions, but that does not take away what they have done for FFC in the past and the fact they are just fans like the rest of us…..albeit with a bit more free cash to spend.

For me there are too many cultural and organisational differences to overcome for the ammies to become part of the pyramid in the short to medium term...it's easy enough on the face of it to pretend apples and oranges are the same thing, but I'm fairly sure those toffee oranges aren't going to work out. I completely agree that we shouldn't create another closed shop in the way that the SPFL did for so many years, but until there's some sort of root and branch reorganisation of the amateur grade - which I'm not sure there's an appetite for - ambitious ammy clubs probably need to proceed by application. It's notable so few did when the WOS Division 4 began though...it was never easier to apply than at that point. There's an inherent stability issue at amateur level, even at the top end of the game...I think seven out of the last ten amateur cup winners have since folded....indeed BOTH of last season's finalists folded in the summer! We can point to the odd non-league team which has gone into abeyance, but relatively speaking it's a rarity....when you hit a level where your club infrastructure is a group of players and a bag of strips though it's much easier to do. I'm not even sure that anything other than Saturday afternoon ammies are being discussed here...what about the other two large tranches of amateur clubs operating at Saturday morning or Sunday level? Are they to be incorporated or in their case have we finally reached a level where it's accepted that what they're doing is purely recreational in nature? If they're all incorporated playing at the same time there's instantly going to be a shortage of grounds to play at. Grounds are a huge issue, certainly around the Glasgow area. Very few teams have first call on one, and the reality is that clubs can flit from park to park depending on what's playable and/or available at short or no notice...one club local to me has already used six home grounds so far this season and I'm sure they'll use more before it finishes. As things stand all they need to do is inform the ref, the other team and fire up a quick tweet on the off chance anyone's going to watch the game. Job done as things stand, but that kind of peripatetic informal approch would no longer be an option. And I think that touches on the most important aspect. The most fundamental difference between non-league and amateur levels is that one is spectator-facing and one isn't. There has to be some minimum level of provision of facilities for spectators, and TBH I think we're already stretching it beyond the limits of what should be being charged for in the case of some of the newer sides already admitted...since my own team played last Friday, I went to see one of the new Div 4 sides on Saturday as not much else was on....a 3G cage with absolutely no cover with catering that extended to a vending machine. Given the weather, I didn't make it much past half-time and I wasn't alone. It's something important that any amateur side looking to make the move will have to address.

Tommy Wright already had us playing a back 3 with the squad built to flip between 3-5-2 and back 4 set ups. He'd already put the Kerr/Gordon/McCart back 3 in place and had them playing alongside each other. He'd had Wotherspoon/McCann playing in central midfield together. He signed Shaun Rooney as RWB. May/Hendry hit some great form beside each other. All Callum Davidson had to do was get the squad working and that was comfortably a top 6 squad. Bryson/Conway were good signings and he struck gold with Melamed, but we had months of stuff like him refusing to play May/Hendry together or Melamed, him playing Shaun Rooney at CB and Ali McCann at RWB rather than play a back 4. League Cup we scraped past Motherwell and Dunfermline in the cup, scudded Hibs after Jack Ross went 4-4-2 after theyd missed a couple of sitters, then beat Livi after theyd bizarrely starting Marvin Bartley as on the wing. Scottish Cup was better but by then hed, finally, reverted to TWs plan of 3-5-2 and Rooney at RWB. Callum Davidson deserves credit for the double, but he was helped massively by the squad being built to how he wanted to use it with some genuinely exceptional players. Im not convinced we'll have youth players like Kerr and McCann in our side at the same time again. That Summer he refused to improve the squad and since then its just been a disaster. Cant identify long term tactical issues, cant plan long term in the squad, and seems overly reliant on experienced players digging him out a hole. Hes comfortably our biggest spending manager is about 20 years, if not more, and has spent more on strikers (if we sign White) than Coyle/McInnes/Lomas/Wright spent in total combined. Tl;dr - Good coach/bad tactican. Does well with good squad but cant build a balanced one. John Hughes Mk2

The bigger concern here is that if he's getting more money to spend then he's still nowhere near to getting sacked.

Supermarket staff are providing the obligatory throwaway greeting to get through another utterly turgid shift. Gammons who expect some curated and witty individual exchange with them need to take a look at themselves.