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If someone had told me in May or June that my old man would still be around at Christmas, I wouldn't believe them. But he is still here, and we spent a few hours with him today. Got him some gifts he loved, and the kids played games with him. Just wonderful.

My dad is a funny c**t.

Final league tables Pfizer no. 42 for @Arch Stanton and shared runner-up with no need for play-off as the 3 cups will take at least week off. So 2nd place no. 21 for @Salvo Montalbano and no. 2 for @Insert Amusing Pseudonym. I'm in the relegation play-off with @peasy23 @Slim Charles. and @The Captain relegated. Wannabe winner for 4th time is @scottsdad with @Geaky and @JamesP_81 also promoted @Bully Wee Villa in the up play-off. Doon play-off is @senorsoupe and definitely doon are @German Jag @BigBo10 and @TxRover The Last Chance won by @Ross. for the 7th time joined by @101 and @pleslie99 with @SlipperyP in the play-off. Wooden spoon no. 4 for @Spring Onion

Christmas is like catnip for cats.

Wishing my P&B Dark Blue brethren a very Derry Christmas. Thank you.

Wishing all you quizzers a Very Merry Christmas. Planning to keep the quiz going this week but not the Champions/Europa/Mugs cups. If the usual quiz isn’t available on Boxing Day plan N and Z will come in to force. Have a great day wherever you are.

Evening all, I have an account on here so I can keep track of what I have and haven't read, not because I have anything useful or helpful to say, but given this is the time of year for goodwill to all men and all that, I just want to say a massive thank you to everyone in this thread for their openness and honesty, and the subsequent kind and helpful words shared with them. I've suffered with mental ill health for years now, but this year has been when I reached my breaking point, and ended up on a combination of months off work, anti-depressants and CBT sessions for a good long while. I'm better now - a new job which I love, and the meds continue to work - but there are still dark days when it is really hard not to lose your mind, when you wonder if you’ve actually made any progress at all; when it really requires me to pull together whatever inner strength and wherewithal I have just to get through the day. Having had this thread where I can drop in even just to read what people have shared and said has been such a help at times. I'm probably your stereotypical bloke who doesn't know how to approach or what to say either to express my own feelings or comfort others, so having this place where people who can say how they've been and people have given advice has been some comfort. I always really struggle around Christmas - my head has been all over the place for the past couple of days and will be for a few days yet; last year I think I managed ten minutes of Christmas Dinner before I had to f**k off back upstairs for my own good. Often I feel like the back half of December is more about sustaining as opposed to actually living: I do all this because I have to, not want to. I've never been one for New Year's Resolutions, but one thing I am going to try and do is talk on this forum more. I'm around most days but realise the experience is a hell of a lot better if I contribute and interact, rather than doing the virtual equivalent of being sat in the pub alone, listening to other people's conversations. As above, I know how trying this time of the year and tomorrow specifically can be for some. Trite though it is, please try to remember you are not alone, and that no problem, hindrance or circumstance is unresolvable. The one thing in particular I have learnt across this last year is that everyone, within themselves, is a hell of a lot stronger than they think. Please continue to talk to whoever will listen, even if it feel like shouting into an empty room, and please never, ever give up hope.

My wife was a chef manager in a care home and took great pride in cooking Christmas dinner for the residents,she told the management to go and f**k themselves when they moaned about her breaking the budget.It is their home they deserve decent food.

Happy Christmas to all. Half cut already so should be a fun day. Hope you all have a belter

Derry Christmas.

Working this year but genuinely looking forward to it. I'm a support worker and I'll be helping my guy make Christmas dinner. He's had an awful, awful life, but he loves cooking and is super keen to learn from me and it's just fun hanging out with him. He can struggle massively with anger, depression and suicidal ideation, but stick him in a kitchen and he just blossoms and opens up. Can't fucking wait tbh.

In light of this evening just wanted to make a wee thread for the guy for everyone to post their appreciation. A career blighted with injuries when he should have went on to so much more, hopefully this isn’t the end. Handsome Craig. What a keeper.

Merry Christmas from the gruesome twosome

Merry Catmas and seasons greetings from Monty

Merry Christmas Dundee fans wherever you are.

Seeing that @P and B Official Hamsterdid not include me in the Christmas message, I just wanted to say that you are a tip-top bunch of people and I hope you all have a wonderful Christmas and New Year. I wish you and your families all the best. Unfortunately I know that this time of year can be very difficult for people. If you are experiencing difficulties, don't suffer in silence. Feel free to drop me a message if you want to talk. Take care and have the great time you all deserve, Jamie xxxxxx

Merry Christmas fellow Dee's, wherever you are.

f**k that. Tories are scum 365 days of the year.

Ungrateful shitebag

Merry Christmas from Renton

I hope everyone stands up and dances when Insomnia is played just before kick us. Maxi Jazz was a great frontman and it’s a shame that he has gone so soon. He is one of as as well, as the lyrics from one of his other classics show; “This is my mychurch, this is where I heal my hurts, for tonight god is watching from the Derry’

When it comes down to it, I think a lot of people quite like the idea of everybody else continuing to shop the way they always did while they themselves shop online or visit retail parks/hypermarkets, which would allow the old-style shops to remain open as an exercise in nostalgia the once or twice a year they want to use them. It doesn't work when a critical mass of people are thinking the same way though. Record shops are the classic example...the vast majority of people either buy online, stream or download, and all that's left on the UK high street is HMV which itself is a bit of a basket case that has been in administration twice in the last ten years.

Happy Christmas my kindred Dee spirits, both to you and all of your loved ones. Keep them close and safe, always. Regards.

Wee Man had a good day. Went through more outfits than Lady Gaga, mind, but he seemed happy with all the noise and bits.

Merry Christmas one and all x

Top dogs in the South Sudan cattle marriage market

Dare I say the most iconic scene of any Christmas movie? I kind of think it sums up supporting Dundee as well. We might sometimes moan about supporting Dundee and question whether the hassle is worth it at times but any alternative is far worse. I’ve got a feeling the new year will bring good times for a change.

Honestly, I understand the concern around the lack of experience for Hammell, but the absolute fucking state of the squad is the more pressing concern for me. We barely even have a starting XI worth talking about, let alone squad depth to change games, and until that's resolved, you can have all the experience in the world and it won't make a bit of difference. Merry Christmas!

Love how a wee guy like this will just sit there and help hold you together when you're in bits. We don't deserve dogs.

I think it's just a standard 50-50 challenge with an unfortunate outcome, two players committed to the ball and going for it. Gordon gets there first, plays it legally and Fletcher clatters into him. I don't really see it as that different to two players going for an aerial challenge in the middle of the park - whoever gets to the ball first is probably going to win the foul. I think the eventual decision reached was the right one.

Been off this thread for a bit since my big pal passed. He was a gentle big soul and I still miss him.

Has Santa been yet ?, I’ve been watching for hours.

Got up at 5am for my first Christmas shite and figured I may as well stay up for the wee one appearing, but 6.05 now and no sign of her yet. Might have done myself out of a lie in. Seething.

I'll go with a festive play-off question What is the total if you multiply the number of reindeer who pull Santa's sleigh by the amount in dollars that the film Elf took in it's first week in the USA when launched? Answers by 12 noon on Tuesday 27th

With transgender people experiencing ridiculously disproportionately high rates of suicide, self harm, general mental illness, lack of job opportunities, poverty, homelessness and sexual assault its pretty much the responsibility of any government to try and make their lives a bit easier. FFS even the torries thought it needed addressing before they decided to put the bigot in charge.

Look, I'm not saying Gordon was trying to hurt Fletcher as I very much doubt he was and look how it turned out anyway. But, turning your hip into someone when you're hurtling into them in midair does not reduce the impact - you're hitting someone with your centre of mass with a completely inflexible and pretty fcuking solid part of your body. I can understand why he did it - he saw the collision coming - but if Gordon doesn't jump into Fletcher like that, there wouldn't have been anything like the same level of force involved. Meanwhile, week by week you get fans screaming about incidents where studs tickle another player's leg and folk talk about career ending injuries when the players socks are barely scratched. At the end of the day it's subjective, but to me yesterday showed the very definition of 'using excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent'. All that said, I wish Gordon all the best - having broken my leg pretty badly playing fitba - I know what a c**t the recovery process is.

Going shopping for albums, choosing them, taking them home and listening to them was some buzz. The streaming generation will never get to experience that. Sad.

Big game just hope we turn up to this one and not lose by such an embarrassing corner count this time.

What would you like for Christmas little boy? Any chance of a red card Santa? Not a problem, anything else? Can I have VAR upgrade a free kick to a penalty Santa? Hmm. Only if you’ve been a good boy this year! Oh, I have Santa. Very well - a VAR penalty it is. Thanks Santa… could you do something else maybe? You ask for a lot little lad, what is it this time? Any chance of making the penalty hit the post, hit the goalie’s arse, then go in? C’mon tae’ fcuk kid - you’re at it. Ach, cheer up Santa… gie’s another penalty! Fcuk off you greedy wee shite. Santaaaaa… come on Santaaaaa. Aye, OK, anything else kunto? Aye. A third penalty. Fcuk off! I’ll make sure you fcuking miss it! Santa, you wouldn’t do that, would you? Aye, I fcuking well would. Any other requests fannybawz? Aye. Make them rattle the crossbar but it bounces clear. Naw. OK, how about the diddy keeper coming up with over four minutes still left? Naw. Come on beardy, lighten up.. how about them making a kunt of it? Naw! Us scoring a third into an empty net? Santa? Hello? Yo ho ho! Merry. Fcuking. Christmassssss!

Muffy pretending to be an ornament

I used to love going into Ayr town centre and browsing all the shops - Woolworths, the record shops, the video shops, the sweet shops etc. Now the town centre is an empty shell full of empty spaces, pop-up shops and phone repair shops. Independent retail is dead. Family businesses that existed for generations are dead. I once had to write an essay for school about my "favourite place in the world", and I chose Ayr. It used to be an absolutely tremendous place to go for a day out. Now I cannot bear to be there for more than an hour or so, because the decline is so depressing. What's your local town centre like? Has it suffered the same fate? What were your favourite things about it?

Football used to be played on Christmas Day and this is from one of 2 games played on this day in 1976 (2-2 att: 7,675). The other Alloa 2 Cowdenbeath 1 (731). Think this has been posted before but never mind as it’s a good way to wish all a Merry Christmas.

Wordle 554 4/6 150 streak achieved on Christmas Day

Merry Christmas to Deanburn Dave, Berwick the Unbeatable, Kelheart and all the Cowden faithful.

The Saints fans urging the Don's keeper to go up for the next corner after our third goal was fucking quality. There was a close up of him and he knew fine well what was going on. Glorious. I've been smiling about it all day.

Predatory males are not getting the same rights as trans people. Trans people are getting their rights into law, predatory males will always remain criminals. I just can’t get over the idea that some people think that predators would actually care about what a sign on a door said, or that if they felt that dressing as a woman would be successful in their predatory endeavours, that they wouldn’t just fucking do it anyway. There has never actually be anything stopping a trans person using toilets etc. As a woman I have seen trans women in the toilets. If predators wanted to do it, they’d just do it.

I hope everyone one on here that's struggling and possibly alone tomorrow, has a good day. Please don't be afraid to come on here if it becomes too much. We are all a big P&B family and on the most difficult day of the year for some, you won't be alone on here. P&B is 24 hours and someone will chat to you.

A Minister, Priest and a rabbit go to donate blood. The nurse says to the rabbit "and what blood group are you?" He replies "I think I'm a type O".

All the best to everyone on P & B except the Tories.

Firs Park, 1992