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10 for Tuesday. 7 in the cup.

f**k u bitch.

The point surely is that an independent Scotland will get the government it votes for. If that's more right leaning than some socialists would wish for then that's the will of the people of Scotland. What definitely isn't the will of the people of Scotland is more Tory government. The reason so many of us can't vote Labour is because they're quite happy to expose us to something we absolutely don't want because that's what people in another country have voted for. I'm no longer prepared to vote for a party like that - particularly as they've accepted separation from the EU as a done deal, won't acknowledge Scotland's right to choose and fight the SNP with far greater vigour than they fight the Tories in Scotland. These are massive issues and the rest of the policy argument pales into insignificance compared to these. Also, Labour in Scotland are content to slaughter the Scottish Govt on stuff like health when they know that Scotland is performing better than rUK and they know that the Scottish budget is determined by another country. Most of us are ex-Labour voters. We'll never go back to them for as long as Labour is in step with the Tories on the biggest issues.

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10 for Tuesday

10 for Tuesday's league duty . The sound of breaking glass can be heard all the way back to the antipodes as my bottle crashes to a 5 in the cup .

A devastating night for Celtic, fans trooping out in stunned silence and nothing positive to take from this CL experience. What a wee fucking shame

Scrapping the abberation of the TCA which Labour voted for en masse (and demonstarbly is a disaster) and fInding a way to leave the European Unon that didn't horsefuck our ecomomy and simply set aside devolution and the 1, 2, 3 4 referendums that the people in devolved nations endorsed, isn't "reversing brexit." That is straight up the position and language of the very worst of the Vote Leave zoomers like Lilico, Baker, the ERG and Farage. You might argue that this it is simple political expediency for Labour to have turned its coat so fully but, it does have consequences. It does mean that as far as Scotland is concerned they go can go f**k themselves. Who was it that claimed to "be the party of devolution" again? Not these half-tory's that think devolved consent is something that can and should be casually set aside if a large minority of English votes might be at risk? Surely not. This is what I mean about arguing in bad faith. As for immigration you don't even need the moral case (although of course it is there) becasue the practical, economic case is screaming so loudly that we have enormous shortages at al levels. But there are people, who Labour helped to convince over the last 2 decades (see Broon embarrassing himself by apologising to a bigot) who think we don't need people to come here and those that do are stealing the NHS and their kids music lessons. And Labour do not have the testicular fortitude or backbone to make the argument. Which is not just amoral, not just cowardice, not just unspeakably dishonest (although it is very much those things too). It is directly, right now, as we speak harming businesses, harming the economy and making us look like c***s on the world stage, and driving away the people we desperately need to come here and make these stupid, fucked up racist, chronically ill served and horrendously badly governened misereable little collection of islands their home. I hate this more even than Brexit. I fucking despise the casual disregard for humanity. I abhor and piss all over those that cannot see the harm this does and shrug their shoulders at this unbelievably stupid, mean, myopic dog shit attitude to immigartion. It rips my knitting to shreds to have the Scotland I want to live in viewed from the outside through the prism of the xenophobic, byzantine and deliberately cruel Tory policy towards migrants, while Labour stand back and fucking well clap. At the risk of repeating myself. A plague on both your houses.

I dunno, man. With the state of some of the St Mirren posters on here, I'm starting to think that Paisley might be the problem.

Those long ball stats basically confirm what we already knew - that our football is sexy and supporting morten is depressing as f**k. Take McGinn out of the side and the average age of the team that started the last 3 matches was 23. Feels like the club is getting its identity back and McGlynn has got to take a lot of credit for that

A lovely, big 10 for the Cup And a nine for Tuesday also. Cracking day. Just the song wrong.

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Hibs fans greeting about the ref. Well, well, well. How the turntables have turned.

Sutton's straw clutching is brilliant. It's so funny when the OF suddenly get refereed the same as everyone else.

Deadknobs and Broomsticks

It's extremely clear whenever Dundee United play Hibernian at Tannadice that one team is, let's say euphemistically, 'given help'. Could it be the side who sold their once-Catholic souls to the devil, or the club that stayed true to their Irish roots? It sure is a mystery.

They've also been testing it in the background all season. If it's not ready, don't use it.

Got to agree, didn't realise this was something we were missing but it makes a huge difference and despite being 'unofficial' it feels like it brings you closer to the club every week. Long may it continue and well done to those involved

Surely there's a minimum standard that needs to be met, even when expectations may not be very high right now? 2 wins out of 10 at this level is atrocious for any side, never mind a full-time club.

In 1973 the Queen dispatched her private lawyer to lobby the government to change a proposed law that would allow the public to establish who owned shares in specific companies. Her lawyer argued that disclosure of her shareholdings would be “embarrassing”. And yet some many fools fawned over this woman. It’s incredible that some folk are so enamoured with a royal family who piss all over them.

If they were on her face then RH33 would be the obvious name.

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We have Ross County next so it’s quite possible Malky McKay was at Tannadice tonight, culprit found?

Always good to see OF fans crowing about getting into CL then getting absolutely fucking rinsed throughout. 1 point between them, 2 scored and 18 conceded. Magnificent stuff

The lack of self awareness whenever they mentions budgets etc is hilarious!

Hopefully Leipzig will put out a wee head patting tweet about the special atmosphere because that's better than a win anyway.

So we have had an equaliser wrongly ruled out, denied a clear penalty and they should be down to ten men? Some half from the officials.

Nesbitt isnt mentally checking out of games anymore, and has a defined final product. He previously lacked that and as sure as shit, at any point in a game last season where he tried his first no-look, "round the corner" type pass, you knew that was him absolutely out of the game.

Ah - the old verge of tears line. Check. Where's the Ainsley meme? You are just utterly predictable. Given your previous postings even denying there had been war crimes - I'd personally take your mewlings with a huge shovel of salt.

Have heard that Levein doesn't even remember lifting a trophy in his career.

Totally understand all of this, but I think the crucial difference is that the guys on Sportsound aren't just reminiscing about old times - they're employed, and presumably well paid, to bring journalistic content and professional opinion to a radio program which should be tailored to fan interest/priorities. The issue with SS is that for years, it's become completely remote from its audience - and has become a boys club circular talking shop. Craig Levein misremembering details on Sacked in the Morning in the context of an entertaining anecdote - absolutely no issue. Craig Levein obviously not knowing a key current issue in the SPFL when contracted to provide insight on key current issues on Sportsound, not right IMO. ETA - I've no real issue with Levein in the context of the rest of the goons on Sportsound. I'm just using him as an example because I initially quoted Paxo's post about him.

When my step daughter was little we got her a hamster. Not a female, but a male. We named him Buster. To this day, she does not know that we named him after Buster Gonads. That wee hamster was dragging around a scrotum of epic proportions.

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Was prepared to say “oh well it’s only one fan, can’t let it tarnish the entire Dundee United support”, but out come the cretins on here to try and explain it away. Utterly shameless.

Old man getting a job surely not going to interfere with fixtures.

Bowyer also said the other week that he thinks 'it's a joke when players say they haven't been given a chance as they get a chance every single day in training.' Genuinely think he's got something about him as a manager even if there's been a few questionable decisions at times. I truly hope this isn't a missed opportunity and he gets punted before he gets the chance to build his squad. I want him in charge of the cull and I get the feeling he'd be ruthless.

I mean, a guy that ended up being a convicted murderer getting chucked out suggests that it probably wasn't the stewards acting like arseholes. Similarly with the old guy, smoking in all seater stadiums hadn't been allowed for at least a decade at that point, he was ripping the piss.

This thread is going well.

That's not a reason for it to go badly. Businesses use new technology all the time, and well-run businesses simply train their staff to use it before they're going to be making an arse of it in the real world. The company I work for is in the fire safety business. We use new things all the time. We would never accept an argument that 'It's ok if this is a shambles, because we've never used it before'. You use the experiences of others who have used it, you train staff thoroughly, and you expect competence from those using it. Incredible that this far into VAR some people are still prepared to use the excuse of 'teething problems'. They've been using it in other leagues and cups for years now. What do you think we can't be prepared for? We don't even need to focus on elite leagues. Have we had people talking to the leagues and clubs in places like Korea and Australia that have been using it for ages? There is absolutely no excuse here.

Bruges Zot blond at Halve Maan brewery in Bruges.

Brian Kemp (who can also claim Gairdoch, Stirling Albion, Alloa, Bo'ness and Camelon Juniors to surely take the FK crown!)

Paying a good wedge during a cost-of-living crisis to make your game worse. We live in mindboggling times.

The Mrs announced she wants to come along to this, purely because she's chuffed she won the tickets on Sky VIP. It will be our first game together since 2013, when she joined me at St Mirren to witness the wheels fall off Jackie McNamara's seemingly unstoppable team. Match prediction - we'll leave after 70 minutes regardless of the score because she'll be cold.

17/42: Kilmarnock 2-2 Hearts, Premiership, 9/10/22. A funny one this, as Hearts rescue it from 2-0 down. Rubbish weather, some terrible errors by players and match officials, a comedy goal and a great goal, a last-minute equaliser. It sounds better than it was, but overall a decent enough match. Our tickets were unfortunately near a large group of the Hearts young team, and, f**k me, I thought I was negative. These lads are daft. Still, a decent day out in Kilmarnock, and 12 goals in three games this weekend to shove my goal average back up a bit. Now at 2.7 per game having been flagging a wee bit. So far, after 17 games - 4 Premiership, 3 Championship, 2 League One, 2 League Two, 3 League Cup, 1 Challenge Cup, 1 Conference League, 1 Europa League - I've spent 320 quid getting into the games, an average of 18.80. And I'm running at just under seven quid a goal.

To be fair, this was true and remains so. Just not remotely in the way that you’re implying.