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A new take on the classic.

You're aware that it would be possible for a chairman to come out in public to back a struggling manager without lashing out at valid criticisms about the manager's experience - claiming managing Atlanta United 2 in the USL Championship is better experience for the Aberdeen job than the Scottish Championship - rambling a load of incoherent pish about possession stats and the 'data' to claim you deserved more points after losing five games in a row, repeatedly shouting '29 games to go', throwing the players under the bus and making fantasy claims about 'the silent majority' of fans backing the manager and Chief Executives of other clubs calling him up to talk about how well they're playing?

A magnificent 10/10 early doors on Tuesday. They're taking the piss with that Ryder cup question

Did have a ticket for tonight but couldn't make it due to illness. A friend is filling me in and by f**k this is not sounding good. Fingers being pointed everywhere but at decisions made at board-level apparently. Other teams in the league are a big problem because our ex-players are upping their games against us? Jesus wept.

Why would I waste my time emailing Colin McFarlane? If over £500k of investment wouldn’t shift these self-important p***ks, what is an email from me going to achieve? If the Board had an ounce of self respect, they’d have been gone a long time ago. To the Clubs detriment, their arrogance knows no bounds.

Finally got round to my notes, apologies if stuff has already been covered I have missed stuff out but hopefully be covered by the recording that will follow It was uncomfortable but felt it got easier for them after the first 20 mins Started with an introduction by Gary Deans Gordon Colburn was up next Talked about his family ties to Falkirk. Understands that the situation has changed, the club has been on the decline for several years. Board needs to be held accountable, same with supporters are accountable and some actions by some of them have been not consistent with Falkirk FC values — threats and attacks are not acceptable at all. Mentioned that supporters need to support the players as players are scared to do things on the pitch(!), big laugh ensues, followed by saying that we’ve lost players due to the supporter behaviour around the club (I thought this may have been youth academy players but might have heard that wrong). Bit of back and forth between Gary and the floor before moving onto questions First question was an absolute belter, very well researched with lots of stats, the main point about the win rate of teams that have won League One and how we’re nowhere near that. Gary took this on and talked about how recruitment before was a disaster with Lex Miller, Lee Miller and David McCracken dealing with this, coming out of those meetings terrified realising there was no real plan. Also made a comment that it doesn’t make a difference who is chairman. McFarlane also agreed that recruitment has been bad, we need stability, comparing previous players like Mercer and Leitch to Williamson and Nesbit, and that the team needs space and time needed to improve. First online question (over 60 emails submitted!) - FFC being run like a boys club with the board being filled with nepotism Gary refutes this completely, responds that there seems to be an undercurrent that the fans want to sack someone, get someone to walk. Why do teams raise their game against us? We have lots of ex-Falkirk players playing against us, because of the revolving door of players and staff. Said the end of last season was the worst moments of his Falkirk supporting life. Gary Holt Clarifying his role - he has zero influence on first team matters (team selection, tactics, subs etc). Quoted stat 65 players have come in the door, 63 have gone out along with 13 non-playing staff coming and going. Not always going to get recruitment right, but we can’t get it right with a constant revolving door. Gary does not sign players alone, he concentrates on shovel work that comes with scouting and dealing with agents etc, Sheerin has final say. We made an approach for 14 different strikers, including Scott Robinson and Declan McManus (willing to also pay his transfer fee), but were blown out of the water in terms of wages. Paul Sheerin Total accountable for the performances so far. Felt the real tension from Saturday's game. The team needs the support of the fans. Paul is still learning with this being his first full time appointment. He trusts that the team will get it better. We’ve been let down by individual errors and not got the blend right upfront or the back, can’t score goals and can’t keep clean sheets. Sheerin has been more involved in recruitment since he's joined the club. Phil Rawlings He felt there wasn’t enough investment behind the scenes. Said that the club was an accident waiting to happen and it did last season. We have the biggest wage bill in the league, including the investment in youth squads. We need to get promotion, we are going to make it happen the best we can but we need stability, and can't expect to do the same things the club have done in the past. Asking for patience, mentioned how long it took Stoke and Orlando to get to the top, we are trying our best to get there stating there hasn’t been a concrete plan before. Expenditure - questions on the increased costs of board level investment Commercial income will be down, the loss of Kieran and Totten are a blow. The club is in a period of investing in the future. Right now they are planning to be in Championship next year, if by January that seems unrealistic they shall review. Small mention of SPFL Club Review, how there could be a danger of criteria for the top league (think back to Brockville), whether that be grass pitch only for example. Gary was really cagey about part time being an opportunity next year if we don’t go up. Navy Blue Group Colburn stated there was a number quoted but came with conditions - offer started at £500,000 and later on became £600,000, but no formal offer was made. They refused the approach as the offer was non-negotiable, a meeting was setup but was cancelled the day before by the NBG. Gary said the door is open, someone from the floor shouted “On your terms”. GD responded with to deliver a document, to invest, you need to discuss it. The investment didn’t fail because of the conditions of Gary walking, you have got to talk about these things, discuss them and be reasonable. More Sheerin tidbits Big Ernaldo Krasniqi - still has a lot to learn defensive, was seen as an opportunity to develop a Huddersfield relationship, was also cost effective, works hard and he will get opportunities. Steven Hetherington - seen as one of our most important players, met with laughs Felt he needed to give Paddy Martin an opportunity, Paul Dixon he also feels hasn’t been good enough over the past month (Dixon himself agrees). Gary Deans wrapping up Knew tonight would be difficult with a lot of frustrations but went better than he expected. Thanked everyone coming and giving us space to give answers. They are doing their damndest to get back where the club needs to be. The fans are vital, proud to be part of the support the club has. Bed time now zzz

Robbie Neilson going in with the, 'take your medicine' patter. Weird what a couple of days does to a man. Breaching lockdown rules and having drinks in the local park celebrating promotion one day, then calling Dundee b*****ds for relegating Hearts and ensuring United go up the next.

I hope she gets life without parole, based entirely on the car she’s driving.

It was a victory. The scoreline literally read Dundee 2 : Hearts : 0.

Its a Bo Derek for me on Tuesday

The most epic waste of a cool name on an uncool player has to be “Zander Diamond” Aberdeen’s defensive workhorse and sidekick to Russel Anderson If you’re called something like “Zander Diamond” you should really be a Bond villain but if you have to be a footballer you need to be a maverick attacking player who tries audacious things Tony Watt, for instance, could get away with being called something like Zander Diamond Zander Diamond should have been called something like Tony Watt

Somebody please have the balls to tell the whole lot of them to f**k right off.

It’s back to the ‘I make no apologies for keeping people safe’ nonsense

Stop the internet lads, football fans can no longer have any opinions on any other club that is currently above them in the league pyramid. The sanctimonious high horsery of many fans of other clubs on here never ceases to amaze.

Better that than 5 minutes after you got in.

There is no battle for supremacy. One off games do not alter the history of both clubs. Only one of these clubs have ever achieved supremacy. There is no contest when it comes to the history of both clubs.

Btw Sheerin is absolutely not getting away with some of the shite he spouted tonight either. Spoke horrendously. Waffled a lot of shite about how he’s confident we’ll score goals because we have some shots in games. Bizarre shite. His line about Dixon being dropped for being out of form was a belter considering he’s playing Brad fucking McKay instead. Stevie Hetherington is not undroppable but he’s our most important player [emoji23]. Absolutely clueless.

Well you couldn't have started out a meeting to try and placate the fans any worse really than painting them as one of the reasons we're in this mess. Can only presume that colbourne was given that job as he's relatively unknown and was one of the patrons who tried to buy the club but his opening speech just continued in the same vein as many others has. It's as much your fault as ours basically. Deans was basically asked why he hadn't resigned and his reply was simply it wouldn't make any difference. Recruitment took a battering all night with exe hibee MacFarlane using examples of what new signings were better than their replacements. Williamson being better than mercer being one which was laughed at due to his injury record and nesbitt being the other one. He stopped then and said there were numerous others but funnily enough didn't expand on it at all. Holt boasted about a younger squad on long term contracts . An online question asked about nepotism but it was quickly brushed under the carpet. Phil Rawlins said things take time and we need to have patience I mean we've only been shit for 5 years and stated we had the biggest budget in the league comfortably which emphasises the shit job the management are doing. Sheerin comes over as a thoroughly likeable guy but when asked why we were playing so poorly now compared to the start of the season he admitted he hadn't a clue. He also stated that he wished he was better when asked why we're 5th in division 3 with the biggest budget.. He still thinks he has the ability and players to turn things around but his comment that hetherington was probably our most important player took the biscuit. The navy blue guys asked why colbourne had stated that he had no idea what the sum of investment was when they had sent him and the other members letters in which it was stated. He hummed and hawed and basically stated he had known but didn't seem bothered that he had told everyone he didn't back then. The board were given it as tight as they probably could be without it going over the top. They are basically going to ride it out as they want stability and to not continue sacking managers and signing new teams. That's fine if we could see some improvement but that is simply not the case . I can't think any fans will have come out of that feeling any more convinced than before they went in and I doubt anyone was persuaded that the board were going in the right direction. A lot of very frustrated fans.

You would have thought so but if they're as pig headed as folk are making out then they're not going to walk without evidence of some sort. I just think the more we have that show they're not performing the more we can demand change. I suppose the down side is that maybe they're not as bad as we think? It's important too that tonight doesn't turn in to a rabble, folk need to keep the heid. Shouting abuse or whatever won't help anything.

A burns unit near Ayr?

The delusions really do run deep, eh? Not just Sheerin and the goalkeeper, even you Falkirk fans are unable to see reality. Saturday was far from a prime example of a team coming to Falkirk to stop them playing. It was a prime example of a well coached team of players who know what they are doing, know their roles in the team and can play tidy football, capable of the odd bit of basic defending in the very rare moments it was required, visiting an absolute rabble who are capable of none of that, and turning them over. It was a comprehensive victory by a superior side who used the ball far, far better than their limp hosts. Airdrie played better football, created more chances and eased to victory with plenty possession of their own. It wasn't just 'fight and guts'. It wasn't setting out to stop Falkirk playing. Airdrie imposed themselves on their hosts and hounded them. It should have been more than 3 and our centre halves had the cigars out for most of the 90.

The shouts are obviously disgusting and have absolutely nothing to do with what happened after the game. However Wullie still made an arse of himself at full time and his actions also deserve to be roundly criticised.

Feck me two queen's park fans in one thread.

With 8 games to go...

C’mon boys. Three pages without a single Simpsons gif/meme. This is just not good enough, I’m away back to the Paisley Pages.

Was away to Spain over the October holidays and played at a club nearby that I've played quite a few times, La Estancia. After 30+ years of golfing, I got my first ever eagle at the par 5 13th. Hit a decent 3 wood up the left hand side that was in the rough but sitting up nicely and caught another 3 wood perfectly that rolled up to 4 feet and knocked in the putt. Was practically cartwheeling off the green.

FAO @Hoose Rice

And a 10 for Tuesday.

Yip, if we had all started shouting and swearing they would probably have walked. There is no way they left that room tonight in any doubt that the fans are in the majority not happy or accepting their pish anymore.

They haven’t walked away unscathed but there was only ever gona be so much that could be achieved tonight. The mood in the room was anger and they have been left in doubt that there is still major disconnect between us and them. They know we think the recruitment has been shite, the style of play has been found out, team selection has become pretty concerning, results are miles off being good enough and that we want people being held accountable. Does it matter? No. They made it clear that change wasn’t in the equation and that everyone is basically gona try really hard to make things better bla bla bla. Colborn couldn’t have had a worse night if he tried

That was due a long time ago.

stop all the b*llshit whining, it's time to go old school. Don't go to home games, don't buy merchandise at christmas, don't buy the hospitality. Go to the away games on mass and demonstrate against the BOD. If you put one more pound in this shower of sh*ts pockets then you're all as culpable as the BOD, Holt and sheeran. Act up or shut up

Pretty well as said already. Colborn is a complete idiot. Got the evening off on a wrong footing. Good question from Ken Hutton but not much of a reply. The big thing for me was how poor Sheerin came across. Not expecting great speaking skills but definitely NOT the person to organise or motivate a squad of players. Can’t see him lasting very long. No great new initiatives to placate the fans. Basically, have patience. They stated categorically that they are willing to meet with the NB group and blamed them for previous overtures breaking down.

Gordon Colborn made an absolute tit of himself and further alienated the fans with this. In a nut shell he said the players aren’t performing because fans have been booing them and they are scared to make mistakes. Then went on to claim people have stoped coming to the stadium because certain fans have been using loud swear words to abuse him and his fellow board members. Couldn’t have started the night any worse if he’d tried!….If your reading this Gordon the reason our last couple of home games have been poorly attended is because the product you have provided on the park is woefully punching beneath where we should be! Not one person has stopped coming because they heard you or somebody else on the board be shouted at, the way to stop angry fans shouting at you is to sort out the mess, not by abusing them back and blaming the clubs shortcomings on the fans/the life blood of the club. Without the fans there is no club, remember that! You’d honestly think these people had never been to a football match, fans get angry when said club is a mess and team is shite! It’s not a new phenomena!

Glasgow City council are absolutely choking for it to go ahead, extending licensing hours and holding their own events and civic receptions, pretty much driven by SNP members on the council. David Macdonald cncllr and depute leader at the time of the bid was on record as fully behind the bid as was the Scottish Government. There’s a revisionism amongst SNP supporters giving it ‘bUt tHe Uk GoVeRnMeNt’ when in reality they wanted it here every single bit as much. Also Scottish Public Health powers held by the Scottish Government (ie the same ones used to control air travel/green lists etc and mass gatherings) could have been used to cancel the event. The thing here is the Scottish Government is absolutely delighted to have itself on the world stage at Cop26 and will be absolutely damned if Nicola cant have her wee photo opportunities at the expense of the drain of this on Scotlands public resources. So its a convenient position for them to be in, blame westminster if anything bad happens and use every opportunity available if the narrative suits.

Aye, that’s us down to 34 CBs now.

^^Skims past all the St Johnstone supporters

I think you might have taken a wrong turn on your way here? https://www.reddit.com/r/tories/

Stigmatising unemployed or people on low paying jobs is very Tory patter Besides they group stage packages don’t come for free

Is this Q&A being streamed tonight? I think it'll be more entertaining than the CL games.

Autumn in Glen Rosa, Isle of Arran.

What a slavering fucking mess that is [emoji23]

Another TEN here - I can see this being a high-scoring day.

Super sexy TEN for Tuesday. Was only unsure on the body part.

In before the thread inevitably turns into a binfire.

It's a test to see if we pick our weans up or go to the football.

Potato 25 (1998-05) The introduction of the SPL in 1998 led to big changes in Scottish football, many of them not really for the better, so it was good to have the comforting familiarity of the potato race to help us adapt. Potato 25 hung around for seven seasons, helped of course by the removal of the relegation play-off spot and two seasons without any relegation at all. It would change hands 85 times and visit 14 clubs, including the first new club (Livingston) since Clydebank in 1977. Curiously, Inverness Caledonian Thistle were promoted in the final season of this potato's existence, but never held it - they played four potato matches and drew all of them. Hibs' lead at the top of the all-time table was extended to 51 matches, but notably Motherwell and Kilmarnock climbed to 2nd and 4th respectively. The first ever Saturday of SPL football saw Dunfermline take a 5-0 pumping at Celtic Park to become the first recipients of potato 25. It would jump around quite liberally in the opening weeks of the season before finding its way to Hearts in December. The Jam Tarts had made a decent start and were sitting in 5th place at this point, but an 11 game winless run with nine defeats and two draws left them and the potato in a perilous position at the bottom of the league. Fortunately for both, a win over Dundee United in April kickstarted a strong finish to the campaign to leave them comfortably safe, while the potato kicked around midtable clubs, eventually spending the summer with Dundee. The Dees quickly offloaded it at the start of the 1999/00, passing it to an Aberdeen side that had made an infamously bad start. The Dons held the potato for seven matches, a run which included a 7-0 defeat at home to Celtic, before a topsy turvy 6-5 win over Motherwell finally got rid of it. The potato would then have a series of short spells with clubs, changing hands 10 times in 17 games, before working its way back to Aberdeen in March. The Dons held the potato for another seven games, a run which all but doomed them to bottom spot in the division. The potato was never in danger, however, because the league was expanding to 12 teams and Falkirk's unsuitable ground meant that the potential relegation play-off was cancelled and Dons reprieved. As it happened, the Dons beat Motherwell again in April, before the potato would end up spending the summer with Hibernian. Hibs would quickly get rid of the potato at the start of 2000/01, passing it to an abject Dundee United side who would go on to hold it for 15 matches (13 defeats and 2 draws) before beating Dunfermline 3-2 in November. Amazingly United stayed up despite having 7 points from their first 23 matches that season. The potato flitted around various different clubs for the rest of the season, never spending more than four with any club. Notably, this was the first season of the split, and the potato was sitting with 3rd placed Hibernian when the league split in half, thus giving it a relaxing climax to the season. It ultimately ended up spending the summer with champions Celtic after Killie beat them at Rugby Park on the final day. Celtic would open 2001/02 with a comfortable win over St Johnstone, and Saints would hold the potato for 13 matches in total. After a series of short spells with other clubs, it joined Hibs for six games in the New Year before they gave it to a by now all but doomed St Johnstone in March. Fortunately, Saints gave it to Hearts in the final game before the split, ensuring that it had another safe finish to the season. Livingston would get their first taste of the potato in the post split fixtures, losing to Aberdeen before immediately giving it to Dunfermline, who held it for the summer. The Pars would return the potato to Livingston early in 2002/03, and the Lions would hold it for nine matches before finally getting rid of it by beating Dundee United. The potato would then have a series of short spells before ending up with Hibs for five games in the spring. The Hibees passed it to Partick Thistle, who held it for three games before giving it to Motherwell with five games remaining. Motherwell were in administration and looked set to finish bottom of the league, but again the potato was not under threat as a result of Falkirk's substandard ground. The Steelmen would go on to beat Livingston 6-2 on the final day of the season anyway, with James McFadden's hat-trick sending the potato to West Lothian for the summer. 2003/04 started with a series of 1-3 game spells before eventually spending the bulk of the winter in Kilmarnock as part of an eight-game run. Killie offloaded it to Partick Thistle who then held it for eight games of their own, a run which all but confirmed their relegation. Fortunately, Thistle passed the potato to 3rd placed Hearts just before the split, thus giving it a relaxing end to the season, eventually finding a summer home in Motherwell. Motherwell passed the potato to Dundee early in the 2004/05 season, and the Dees had a six game spell, followed a month later by another five game spell. Dundee then passed it to Aberdeen for seven matches before brief spells at Livingston, Kilmarnock and Dundee United. United passed it to Rangers, who faced Dunfermline Athletic at East End Park in the penultimate game before the split. With Rangers facing Celtic the next week, any positive result from the Pars would have saved the potato for another season, but a 1-0 Rangers win sent the potato into the roulette wheel that was one of the most hotly contested relegation battles in the history of the top flight. With five games to go, the bottom four were separated by just three points, with Dundee on 31, Dundee United on 29 and Dunfermline and Livingston on 28. A draw with Inverness and a defeat by Livi left the Pars three adrift at the bottom with three games to go, but out of nowhere they thumped Dundee 5-0 to send the Dees bottom on goal difference. Dundee held on to the potato thanks to a draw with Inverness in the penultimate fixture, meaning they held the potato heading into a four-way dogfight on the final day with Dunfermline and Livi on 34, Dundee United on 33 and Dundee on 32. Dundee were at Livingston, Dundee United were in Inverness and Dunfermline travelled to Kilmarnock. The only combination of results that could feasibly save the potato were a Dundee win and then Dundee United losing or Dunfermline by six or more goals. Even after 64 minutes, it looked like any of those results could still happen - the Pars had just gone 4-0 down, Dundee United were at 0-0 and Livi and Dundee were tied at 1-1. However, Dunfermline grimly held on to their 4-0 defeat and United ultimately snatched a late goal from the spot, which meant the only question was which side were taking the potato down with them. Ultimately, despite Tam McManus hitting the post in stoppage time, Livi held on to stay up, and Dundee tumbled to the First Division with their first ever permanent potato. Potato 25's journey: Total number of matches with Potato 25: Full set of results for Potato 25: Final resting places of all potatoes: Total number of matches with all potatoes: Total number of spells in possession of all potatoes: