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"What about us loanee flops?" "You'll be given starting slots!"

"Were you sent here by the devil?" "No good sir, I'm Thomas Meggle!"

Insulate Britain sounds like someone Dumbarton would sell the naming rights of their stadium to.

I'd like to congratulate Thorongil on being the only person on the internet to have a bigger 'mare than Zuckerberg last night. Some lad.

Dunfermline board reading through the comments on social media.

I've been on the coaching staff at Fulham, Norwich and Alloa - and boy did it put them on the map.

What an insulting big bag of shite that statement is. It's riddled with contradictions and outright lies. Who is it they think they are fooling?! Meggle claimed we played some entertaining football in the league cup (that game in Paisley wasn't entertaining), yet we smacked around a COVID riddled Dumbarton. However, whilst they aren't allowed to use COVID as an excuse, we are. Makes no sense. What impact has COVID actually had anyway? What players have been missing due to COVID? Breen? But then they surely knew the rules around isolation before bringing him over. Didn't they? Surely?! But he's just one of a trillion centre backs anyway, so what difference would he have made? He also mentions injuries. Again, who? Martin, Wilson and McCann. Wilson might have made a difference, but not enough to stop the shite we've seen. McCann has zero goals for the club. Martin has been released. Dow was injured and has been rushed back when a perfectly fit Thomas was available. Also, as the signing of Connolly showed, they could have tried to get another winger on loan anyway. The squad has been badly misused in general. No need to go in to that further, we all know and have all seen it. What are the "issues outwith the manager's control"? What is he hinting at there? Since the next paragraph mentions the disallowed goal on Saturday, it surely can't be that? The goal was rightly given offside incidentally, and even had it stood, there is no guarantee we would have won. The same applies to Wighton's goal at Starks. He notes that the defence improved after binning Mehmet, Graham and the shite formation. Yes, it did, but we still gave away some glaring chances. The defence was breached multiple times first half at Starks for example. Against Hamilton there was a free header they should have scored from. The goal we conceded on Saturday was rank. Three times we tried to aimlessly hack away the ball before Queens scored. Check the highlights. The defence is still far too vulnerable. The 'balance' he notes about attacking is bullshit. The stats have been noted on here about how few shots we have had. It should be noted how few crosses we're getting in, how few chances we're actually creating for the strikers. Why are out wingers so narrow? Why do we play forward so slowly? Where is the link up between midfield and attack? Why do we still shell so many awful high balls to no one? The 'balance' doesn't work when it's only 'balanced' towards defence anyway. We won't be drawing our way to the title or the playoffs. We've scored the lowest number of goals across the entire SPFL. Even Vale of Leithen, bottom of the Lowland League with a -67 goal difference after 13 games have scored more than us. Wigtown and Bladnoch, bottom of the South of Scotland League with a goal difference of -53 after eleven games have scored more than us. Every single team in the North of Scotland league has scored more than us, even though we've played more games than them all. It's obvious where the deficiencies lie here. Meggle mentions that "every single player has the individual qualities to help the team". Do they aye? That'll be why Graham has been bombed out of the squad completely. That'll be why Mehmet was dropped. That'll be why Leon Jones was basically given a big middle finder with the signing of Connolly. That'll be why we won't be seeing Watson again. That'll be why Thomas been dropped, despite starting as captain and despite Dow still not being fully fit after his injury. This will be why Kyle Macdonald hasn't got a look in at all. This will be why Matty Todd and Miller Fenton are nowhere to be seen, often not even making the bench. I don't get how they think things will suddenly change. It's not like we've got several key players out who will make a big difference to the team when they return. Will we suddenly start playing differently despite showing nothing to suggest we will at all? What exactly is the plan to turn things around? We signed a squad for the hideous three at the back formation. Now that that has been abandoned, we're stuck with 382342 central defenders and a really imbalanced squad. We signed really poorly and now the signings don't fit. Pybus is awful. Dorrans is a huge waste of cash. Who of them is driving us forward in the midfield? Allan might impress, the jury is still out on him. Cole, maybe? I'm unsure what sort of player he is. We're running with three strikers too. Todorov I think is ok, but like Wighton and O'Hara is getting no service at all, save the occasional aimless punt. These guys aren't getting any service for the most part. Wighton and O'Hara showed in the Rovers game, and at the weekend, that they can stay sharp and put the ball away if one comes their way, albeit the goals were disallowed (close with Wighton but definitely offside with O'Hara). O'Hara did score at Starks. We have strikers who can take chances. We need to make these chances, but we aren't. He notes that everyone is 'up for the fight blah blah blah'. I don't think the commitment of any of the players or staff has really been a question. I've seen them all trying, but many aren't good enough and the confidence is so low, ably assisted by the management. The stuff about Grant showing that he can handle 'a difficult situation' is perhaps the biggest lie and biggest pile of pish there. Have they genuinely got him confused with someone else? Between the talk of his team playing good football last season and now this, what the f**k are they on about? Anyway: - Grant resigned as manager last season (28.6% win record). He wasn't sacked. Does that show he can handle a difficult situation? - Grant resigned as manager at Norwich (33% win record). He wasn't sacked. Does that show he can handle a difficult situation? - Grant was punted as part of the Celtic coaching staff. Does that show that he can handle a difficult situation? - Grant was first team coach at Birmingham, before scuttling across the city to join Alex McLeish at Aston Villa, where they were both fired within a year. Does that show he can handle a difficult situation? - Grant was part of the awful Scotland set up under Alex McLeish who were pumped by Kazakhstan (that defending reminds of some team I know...) and who were sacked just after a year. Does that show he can handle a difficult situation? The last paragraph just seals the big mountain of shite and nonsense. I was at Dumfries on Saturday. One guy ran over to the barrier to give abuse. He wasn't trying to attack or get at anyone. He might have went a bit over the top with the abuse, but it was just one guy. One guy was a dick at Ayr to Dorrans. Are we to believe that two guys are driving sponsors away? No, what's driving sponsors away, or not helping attract sponsors, are the rapidly falling attendances at East End. Have some sponsors perhaps been sold on being seen by a certain number of people per game? Is that one of the reasons why the club lie about attendances? Sponsors won't be falling for that nonsense any longer, if they ever did. The club could have said that they understand fans' frustrations, but please try to remain civil. That's all they needed to say there. Incidentally, I was at the Ayr game too, and just like at the Dumfries game, there were a bunch of younger supporters who sang throughout the game and tried to encourage the team throughout, despite getting nothing in return. If the new investors have taken a negative portrayal of the club because a few lads shouted a few bad words, they need to have a wee word and perhaps think of the cause here. Why they, and the existing board members, are so desperate to defend Grant I don't know. They're alienating fans and driving them away (witness the lowest away support at Starks in memory, and just fucking wait until you see the crowd at the Kilmarnock game!), and for what? A dud manager who has never been a success and never will, at least not at this level. Crazy, crazy stuff. Fucking mind melting. A huge climbdown and massive, sincere apology is needed here, or else I fear we'll be fighting for our club again, against the club again. The talk of a youth academy seems like an absolute fantasy right now. In principal I'm absolutely for it, but in reality, how do we pay for the running costs once it's set up? How do we pay for the coaches and other staff? The equipment, the upkeep of the pitch(es) and facilities? On sub 3000 crowds? There's no joined up thinking there. I can genuinely see a scenario where the investors think it isn't working out as they hoped and selling up their shares and leaving, especially when you hear of so many fans cancelling lifelines and when you see the attendances we'll be getting at games. And they, and the existing board, have brought it on themselves should that happen. That's the path today's statement has set us down.

Is there a chance our time in the Championship could end? Not on your life, my townie friend!

Grant Sacked No relegation! So you won't sack Grant? Grant Sacked? No, relegation !

It really is that Limmy clip of "don't back down, double down..."

I'm sorry to inform you that you've done Berlin wrong.

This forensic analysis of what individual players are referred to in colloquial speech is a new low for this thread. Michty me.

That's Peter Grant levels of word counting.

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^^^^^^ can't afford a car. Thank you.

Waiting for the Nisbet sell on fee then it’s…

Thomas Meggle:

You can pretty much summarise that statement as 'Peter Grant is doing nothing wrong, the results are going to turn round and the only reason they haven't yet is because you ingrate b*****ds aren't being supportive enough. Now keep paying your money and shut the f**k up unless it's something we want to hear, you utter scum.'

The thing I don't get, is that this was an ideal opportunity to prove he was a reformed character. All he needed to do was condemn racism outright, and to say he fully supported any investigation. That was all. Had he done that, I think a lot of people might have thought he had learned from what he did all those years ago. As it is, he still has never shown any repentance for what he did, and his statement after the game on Saturday show, at least to me, that he has learned f**k all.

It was legitimate if you have enough confidence to ignore the off side rule, Grant has given us that confidence.

Modern political activism is a strange thing. So much of it seems to be about 'raising awareness', which is a fundamentally top-down, elitist view. It divides people between the few who are aware and the lumpen mass of the unaware. The unaware must be roused from their slumbers and the way the aware do this is by direct action, shutting down London city centre by Extinction Rebellion for example. Prior to the videos seen in the last few days, there had been footage of angry commuters dragging XR protesters off the roof of a train in Dagenham a couple of years ago, the protester being a posh-crusty type. Often the causes that the aware in these situations look to publicise are vague and wide ranging - climate change, anti-racism. The difference about insulate Britain is that their goal is not wide ranging, it is very specific. It's strange that they have this sensible goal that pretty much everyone would agree with but are pursuing it in a way that is almost guaranteed to make everyone hate them. The idea that you have to jolt people into awareness rather than persuade them is powerful. Rather than try and campaign and work together, everyone needs a good kick, they need to be inconvenienced and in some cases hurt to make the point. In addition, there's also an element of cosplaying, Larping, whatever neologism you want to use for it, about the protests. The images of sitdown protests recall the civil rights movement in the USA, a lot of these activists either conciously or not will see a parallel with their own protests. If you look at the age of a lot of people on these protests they aren't young people (what young person is going to take direct action for loft insulation), there's an element of people of a certain age trying to recapture an imagined past in these protests.

This calls for a big plate of confidence meatballs.

Erm I'm pretty sure they're demanding that the government takes action to make insulation projects affordable and/or required, as opposed to demanding that individuals pay for it themselves. So long as they limit their disruption to motorists - the most self-entitled and beetroot-faced segment of UK society - then they're a great bunch of lads.

Considering everything I wrote there was completely made up*, that's pretty amazing. *except read-only; I'm pretty sure that's a thing

I remember the halcyon days of @Yflab's first appearance on the Dundee thread when he said the fan ownership won't go wrong at St Mirren because they have "£150,000 in an emergency fund". That's about the time we stopped engaging with the fucking idiot.

LFTs are completely and utterly useless though.

The only thing that Orwell didn't predict is that we'd be buying the cameras ourselves and that the biggest fear for many people is that nobody is watching.

Christ, are we really staring to moan about what the guy calls his players? The other players call Keena 'Keena', as do the fans. Keens, Keeny or Keeno don't really work and, if I was McGuffie, I really wouldn't want to be called 'Guff' either! Don't know how Nesbitt or McGuffie wouldn't be described as his favourites either considering he picks them every week?

November in Glasgow isn't really the most pleasant time of year to glue yourself to the road. If it does happen there is no need to resort to physically removing them - just fling some chips or sausage rolls in the middle of them and watch the seagull carnage.

Get a grip, mate.

And your fūcking search history.

That’s four points you never had when the league started back in July you ungrateful Fife hoors.

I'm reminded of a line from The Thick of It Sacked in a year, looks like you fucked up. Sacked in a week, looks like we fucked up.

I've been to the one in Gordon Street next to Central Station. It's shite as well.

You've got to admire the sheer stupidity of starting a thread like this, then doubling down when continuously proven to be wrong.

Peter Grant is the best thing to have ever happened to Stevie Crawford’s managerial career. He looks like a safe pair of hands in comparison.

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7 for Tuesday But more importantly, the cup score.

In the league for Tuesday, 8 out of 10 including a lucky guess on Mr Bond. In the cup, a 7. Will that be enough? Hopefully @Salvo Montalbano can pull his socks up and bang in a big score and send those Rest of the Worlders @Duszek & @Spring Onion back to whichever hell-hole they crawled out of. God I hate The Rest of the World so much.

Since you can still post on here we can clearly see how moronic people can be.

The P&B Ryder to the Stars and Back Team Quiz 2021 Session 3 - Foresome - Highest score of any player counts. Comments from the captains @pleslie99 - Lineup below. Fresh from 2 wins from 2, the tynierose and German Jag stay together to lead the boys out on day 3. A shuffle of the pack for most others hoping to retain the slender advantage built up over the opening 2 rounds. Looking for a big performance from the big boys today! @The Hologram - Round three & all the pressure is on the RoTW. New pairings for this round, with the highest score going up against the best score from our opposition to win the point. We play as a team. We win as a team. “This is your time. Their time is done. It’s over. I’m sick and tired of hearing about what a great team the RoTW have. Screw ’em. This is your time. Now go out there and take it.” ** ** Thanks to Herb Brooks in 1980 Best of luck guys The pairings Rest of the World 11½ v Scotland 10½ @Tynierose & @German Jag v @Snobot & @Silky Si McFly @WhiteRoseKillie & @Jacksgranda v @Arch Stanton & @Rugster @Eednud & @SlipperyP v @alang1993 & @Blootoon87 @Meldrew & @kingjoey v @Namond Brice & @gkneil @Duszek & @Spring Onion v @Cardinal Richelieu & @Salvo Montalbano @NotThePars & @LincolnHearts v @Culter Away & @The Hologram @The Captain & @Ross. v @peasy23 & @mathematics @pleslie99 & @Bully Wee Villa v @Ronaldo Jeremy & @The DA @NJ2 & @Geaky v @ArmadaleKillie & @BigBo10 @Arabdownunder & @Leeds Saint v @JustOneCornetto & @JamesP_81 @The_Kincardine & @Helpma v @101 & @scottsdad Today we will be using New Zealand Herald morning 5th Oct '21 https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/herald-morning-quiz-october-5/BC3GHBDPNT7BZG6PPOLK7IIKZA/ YOU HAVE UNTIL 08:00 THURSDAY BANGKOK TIME OR 02:00 EDINBURGH TIME Pros that putt for pars and dogs that chase cars. They both don't survive!!

Big fan of the fight against climate change needing part of the National Cycle network closed for 2 weeks in order to host people flying in from all over the world