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I'm seeing a potential link with these two issues. Asking guys who have walked up and paid at gate or handed over a book to get to games their entire lives probably aren't going to have the best of times printing out their own tickets, logging into online accounts or checking multiple email folders to watch a game. A wee bit of understanding might be required, rather than labelling everyone a retard.

My favourite comment from the petition.

Apologies if this has been posted already - report on the BBC that I think covers it very well. It's worth comparing with other major finals that have featured the host country, in France (three times since 1984) and Portugal. There were no scenes like this at all.

Gammon

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I think it is very Helen Lovejoy to be critical of these memes because first and foremost it has literally nothing to do with race and is almost fully to do with it being a huge overreaction to the foul itself.

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With the link between cases and serious illness very much broken, it is not their responsibility to do whatever they can to try and prevent some people feeling utter shite for a week, however unpleasant i'm sure that feeling is. Restrictions were to "Protect the NHS" and were not going to be in place "any longer than absolutely necessary." We're not protecting the NHS by wearing masks to exit a pub or by decimating it's staffing levels by forcing people (especially vaccinated people) who are not sick to stay off work for 10 days because their pal tested positive. The public want them to be cautious, though, because they have had fear promoted for the last 17 months. Distancing and masking isn't natural, yet people are begging it to continue as they think they will die otherwise. The SG now are having to drag the easing of restrictions out to try and push back the tide they helped create, making sure to get a few more cheap jibes in at Boris Johnson along the way as they know that will be lapped up in the absence of any real evidence or data to justify said delays. That list of who can do what and where today was an absolute farce when you consider we are at the very end stage of the pandemic. Remaining rules and restrictions at this stage should be clear, concise, consistent, and provide a demonstrable benefit. We got none of that.

It's a five minute walk from my house to the pub, and it’s a 35 minute walk from the pub to my house. The difference is staggering.

Social distancing is shite for going to the football. Mask wearing is shite for me at work. Both need binned so I can live my life IMO.

Leave me the f**k out of this thread please.

Just been down to the walk in.

So, you refuse to report blatant racism, and also like it when people do racisms ? Sounds like you're a racism apologist tbqh.

Wearing a mask while socially distanced, outside is an utter nonsense and completely devalues the point of wearing a mask.

The new version of the story just gets messier and messier. Essentially: - Andy Hosie took Andrew Sweeney for £2million in the Bet Butler shambles. - Sweeney is alleging that Hosie made some kind of promise to the effect that Sweeney would get £2million and that this was the value of Hosie's 28% of Brabco. - Hosie got round this by setting up a new company, transferring Barbco's ownership of Dumbarton to the newco and then selling the newco to the Norwegians. It still doesnt sound particularly true given that 28% of Babco was never going to be worth £2mil. That values Brabco at about £7.1million. I can well believe that Stainton, Wilson and the others thought that they'd be making that kind of money from the deal eventually but theres no way that Brabco was worth that given the massive risk and uncertainty around Youngs Farm. If Hosie did have a 28% stake in Brabco then again it's Brabco who own any assets and not Andy Hosie. Hosie could promise Sweeney his shares in Brabco. He could promise him any share of profits that would be payable on the ultimate completion of Youngs Farm. He couldn't grant any kind of security or other legal control over Brabco assets without the agreement of the Brabco directors. Stainton and Wilson would never have agreed to that. And even if Hosie did own 28% of Brabcos shares, the other shareholders could vote against him by simple majority. Hosie would appear to be in serious trouble. I have no problems believing that he's promised the world to some of his Bet Butler victims. Much like Bet Butler, the issue would be that Hosie can't actually deliver any of it. He can't promise more than his shares in Brabco. Brabco owned the controlling stake in Dumbarton FC and as a legal entity it's for the directors of Brabco to make decisions on any asset transfer or security. Hosie can only make promises on his individual shareholding in Brabco. Sweeney may be able to successfully claim Hosie's Brabco shares but that only really means that he would be entitled to Hosie's share of the price paid by the Norwegians. The Norwegians didnt pay £7.1 million for Dumbarton FC. Sweeney wouldn;t have been in a position to block the Norwegian takeover because he wouldn't control enough of Brabco's shares to win any vote. Sweeney will make this difficult for sure. It's worth a lot of money to him. Ultimately I don't see him getting anywhere. He's been conned twice by Andy Hosie - once with Bet Butler and again with promises of Brabco money or control over Brabco assets (and ultimately Dumbarton FC via Brabco's controlling interest). That wasnt within Hosie's power to do without agreement by the Brabco board and an almost certain vote of the Brabco shareholders. Hosie simply couldn't have won that vote because the likes of Stainton and Wilson would not vote to give control of a significant asset to one of Andy Hosie's Bet Butler victims. Hosie is screwed here. The mysterious Vaugh may well catch up with him but its more likely that it'll be the police and that he'll face charges of fraud. Sweeney is screwed here because as much as Hosie might have promised him the world, it wasn't within Andy's power to actually do any of it. He'll make it very difficult and very unpleasant but ultimately Andrew Sweeney is on to plums. At best he might be able to get whatever Hosie made from the sale of the club to the Norwegians. The Norwegians are going to be frustrated because until this is resolved it'll create uncertainty around the club. It'll definitely have a negative impact for as long as it remains unsettled. All we can do is try to carry on regardless and let Andrew Sweeney chase Andy Hosie for whatever he can. That won't be Dumbarton and it won't make the Norwegian buy-out void, but the uncertainty will add to the existing pressures that the football club board face in keeping things going at the Rock.

A rare full bhoona for me. Educated guesses for the room (playing the Cluedo quiz game in the pub back in the day) and the mountain. (10, for the avoidance of doubt about the definition of a full bhoona).

Massive xHORSE but, so get him in. Jimmy Scott, come on home.

Just registered www.wembleystampedecrushedmydadsribsbuyataco.com

If I was at the football with my wife I probably wouldn't sit beside her either.

I can tell from your other posts that you’re not a moron, so assume you’re ignoring the obvious here for a laugh. Staying 1/2 metres from someone means no capacity crowds at sport, no gigs, no full pubs and standing at the bar, pubs/restaurants operating at about 30% of their usual capacity and naturally after a while shutting down as its unsustainable, limited numbers at gatherings of all types, no dancing at weddings. The list goes on and on. Social distancing is far and away a far more troublesome restriction than wearing a mask, and affects almost all of the things that people like to do. It’s simply nuts to suggest otherwise.

Football's gammon home.

I think in your case ‘gammon’ might be being used as an abbreviation of ‘gammon flaps’ given the c**t you’re making of yourself mate.

Jonathan Pie's latest video is a thing of beauty. My personal highlights: "Cretins claiming to be patriotic whilst smashing up their capital city. Claiming to support England, but racially abusing them when they lose. Hurling racism at a young kid who's achieved more on & off the pitch for the country he was born in and loves than you, being sick down the window of JD Sports, will ever achieve." "Come on England! What does that even mean any more? There's nothing of England left. Just town after town of boarded up Debenhams. This 'green and pleasant land' has turned into a nation of obscene and unpleasant wankers, a reactionary and populist, moribund dump. A bargain basement tax haven for Russian property developers. That's all we are, a nation of wankers, and we just paper over the cracks of breathtaking inequality with a picture of the Queen, who's second son is a probable nonce. An island cut adrift and lost at sea, desperately in search of a moral compass with Boris the Flagshagger at the helm."

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2021/jul/13/david-squires-on-england-euro-2020-final-defeat-against-italy

Honestly and I mean this from the bottom of my heart. Get fucked.

For one week every season, there should be a round of games where teams wear their old 1960sish strips. No sponsors, no badges. Long sleeved, plain shirts. Numbers 1-11, no names on the back or anything. Black boots. For one throwback week (give it a snazzy marketing name). I reckon it'd be hugely popular (with me, at least, and I don't really care about anyone else).

How I see myself: How the rest of Pie and Bovril sees me:

Thanks go to Ray Harryhausen for directing the first half on Falkirk TV last night and to Marcel Marceau for the highlights on youtube today. Excellent.

… or if the 1960s strip is a particular problem for you, settle for the earliest one you can find.

Depends what virus you're talking about.

Surprised our PR person hasn't got Falkirk TV sorted out by now. For many Falkirk TV are the public face of the club.

you're a strange, strange loddy

When the facts are being laid out in simple terms you really have to laugh at that bum Heaney’s blog post or whatever the f**k it is. The only thing spreading through the town like wildfire is that Bill Heaney is a grade A turd.

Read this morning that the detail of level zero isn’t even being published till tomorrow. Amateur in the extreme to make the announcement and not have it all ready to roll. Businesses still waiting 48 hours to find out how the SG are gonna make life more difficult than they anticipated.

Sport is currently the only outdoor setting where mask wearing is being required.

Well...this is from Banderson. On reflection I think bringing Jimmy Scott home is something "The Thread" should put its weight and considerable influence behind. Make it happen Burrows.

Transmission outside is practically zero.

Yeah, none of that happened at all

That’s Clyde ruled out as well.

10 for Wednesday. Haven’t felt this good since the last penalty on Sunday.

10/10 for Wed

If you accept that the science is not conclusive (which is a big if, but lets leave that) then there are four scenarios. 1. Masks are worn and it turns out are effective at reducing spread. Congratulations, a cheap and effective public health measure has saved lives however some people have suffered minor inconvenience such as having their specs steam up 2. Masks are worn and it turns out are not effective at reducing spread. Hmm, that didn't work. Some people have suffered minor inconvenience such as having their specs steam up to no avail 3. Masks are not worn and it turns out are not effective at reducing spread. That worked out well then, no glasses steamed up. 4. Masks are not worn and it turns out are effective at reducing spread. Whoops. People have died due to the absence of a simple, cheap public health measure. At least nobody's specs got steamed up Apply the precautionary principle and its seems that masks in high risk situations should be worn until either the pandemic is over or the science is definitive.

Stolen from The Athletic (only £1 for 6 months I believe):

Danny does touch in hyperbole from time to time but he also said the performance was poor and went as far as apologising for it. The defending, Balatoni aside, was nowhere near the level we need going forward but this was our first competitive match of the season and we were in neutral the whole match and won. Lucky? Yes. Time for panic? Not for me. Half a new squad still gelling etc.

I wouldn't call McGeouch a write-off. I thought we looked significantly better with him in the team at the end of last season.

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