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The last 18 months since sacking Houston have been a nightmare... 1. The return of Rory Loy 2. Removing the youth academy 3. Naming Muirhead as Captain 4. Not owning our own club logo 5. Fans being called racists 6. A player mocking a disability 7. This so called Brentford model 8. Turning on Lee Miller and Mark Kerr 9. Paul Hartley 10. Mitch “The Scout” 11. Tapping up Ray & lying about it 12. The “Our Time” slogan 13. Getting beat by Stenhousemuir We are due a Netflix documentary soon cause we are so Sunderland.

f**k off you plastic DAB.

I take the point here and of course I’ll renew. However I have to be honest and say that I am quite numb re the whole fiasco so not hurting half as much as I have when we missed out in the promotion playoffs or the cup final etc. Why? Because the heart of my club has been ripped out in recent seasons with our ludicrous strategy of closing the academy, getting rid of our last remaining decent players and bringing in utter dross, many of which had little interest in the club, only themselves. There’s a few decent players at the club just now but they are predominantly loan players who won’t be there when we go down. Time for Lang and Campbell to do the decent thing and f**k off. Yours sincerely. Keyboard Warrior.

IF we do manage to stay up I really hope it isn't celebrated too much. We need to remember this isn't the Championship and that this season has been an absolute failure from start to finish. By all means we should be delighted to avoid a crippling relegation should it happen but it's not any sort of achievement to be shouting about IMO. The sooner we can get to May and bin off half our squad the better.

A lot of what I'll say in this post has already been touched on, but I'll chip in with my usual negativity. Firstly, my feeling is that Harvey should go. I kept quiet on here a couple of weeks back when there was a discussion about sacking him and the consensus seemed to be that 'the time had gone', but I said to Bri privately at the time that actually, I completely disagreed. The timing was wrong a couple of weeks ago but it literally won't get any better than it is now. What I said to Bri then was that actually, there was no point replacing him then - you'd be better off waiting till a week before the Albion game and then rolling the dice, pinning your hopes on the new manager bounce, giving him a little time to whip together a team prepared for what you'd assume would be a relegation six-pointer, and with enough time to put together an XI that is at least hard to beat if it were to come to a relegation play-off. At the moment, we are simply not hard to beat, and you can dispute that we ever have been under Harvey. EK beat Kelty (two sides who are probably way better than us in brutal honesty), by 4 goals to nil last week. I dread what the current setup would return against them, or a Cove side that have netted about 100 goals and conceded just 10 all season. For that very reason, my view is that Harvey absolutely must go. Fans will discuss a lack of alternatives, but ultimately we won't know who'd want it until we take action. I'll likely be ridiculed and I usually say this jokingly, but I genuinely feel we could do far worse than grovelling to Coughlin and asking him to take us through to the end of the season. I think it's realistic and he'd be up for it, but I have my doubts that we'd swallow our pride on that one. It'd not be a fashionable appointment, but you know exactly what you're going to get from a Coughlin side, and right now it's what we need. In any case, I'd support that as a temporary measure to get us through to a point where we have clarity at the end of the season - if there's a totally fresh start in L2 it's attractive for someone, and if it's a title assault on the Lowland it's much the same. It looks like views are mixed on his team talk stunt yesterday - I'm firmly on the side of the fence that sees it as ridiculous. Some lines shouldn't be blurred and if I were a player, I'd honestly think he's lost the plot. For me, it seems Harvey is struggling to motivate and can't put an organised team on the park. In recruitment, he's fared even worse. We shouldn't forget he lost our best player/top scorer, simply because he couldn't manage him, and we shouldn't forget that he's replaced those lost goals with two forwards who didn't have a senior goal between them (one still doesn't and is a five-a-side player), and now it looks like he's turning to Grant Rose, another goalless striker. We're currently without hope at both ends of the pitch. As Redcar touched on, fans at the talk-in were criticised for their negativity on social media and on here. I honestly find that quite difficult to understand. For over a decade, we've become increasingly complacent as a club. Myself & DutchBorderer disagreed at the start of the season when he said he'd be delighted with 9th. Of course you'd take that if offered now but for me it was a statement very much indicative of the absolute state we've gotten ourselves into. In a decade I don't think we've once aimed to win the league - the height of our ambition has been to reach the play-offs - and even then what is really meant is to 'sneak in' in 4th. In the last few seasons, even that has diminished. We now exist as a club solely to survive - to be a L2 side. We are totally devoid of any ambition and worse still, even if we stay up I don't really see that changing. What do you expect your fans to do? Grab a season ticket and shut up? I hope that there is more reason behind any inactivity than people being 'afraid to touch it' through fear of association. At the moment, I feel we deserve what we have coming - and make no mistake, as it stands it is coming, for our prolonged complacency (the same level I used to tear Montrose to shreds for). With relegation seemingly imminent, I don't know why you wouldn't roll the dice - I genuinely feel it cannot get worse. I have no idea who holds the power at the moment with a Chairman elect in place, but if it is John and if memory serves me correctly (and I might have this wrong), John has always been on the side of the manager when it came to their departures. As a result of all mentioned in this paragraph, I get the feeling we'll see no change.

We’re now officially a two dog household We were fostering Pip but that’s turned into an adoption

Agreed.... until your last sentence. I think Ray's a decent manager who's picked up some reasonable players and did extremely well in getting results previously with some dismal players, courtesy of Mr Hartley. However, it's not enough. There are nine other teams in this league. If you look at our last results against each of them, we've beaten only one. Ayr Utd. That's relegation form no matter how you dress it up. We're picking up an average of a point a game and a goal a game. Again, that's not enough. Not when you're joint bottom of the league and clubs like Alloa and Partick are winning games. The safety first approach has failed. Our only chance of survival is to throw it out the window. Try something else. Play Rudden & Jarvis up front together, or drop one of our two holding midfielders in AO and PP and try SL for creativity , or put Robson in to give us some width. I don't know. I just know it needs to change. Because the league table tells us the current approach isn't working.

This morning we said goodbye to wee Keira, 13 years old and had a womb infection we didn't know about, been up since 3:30am this morning with her in a wee shawl, bleeding from her back end. She's seen 2 kids come into the household under her watch and showed them nothing but love and protection. We will miss her.

The problem with with the formation doesnt really lie on having 2 upfront imho, we went 2 upfront in the second half and although we scored straight away, after that we didn’t really hurt Alloa too much. It’s more to do with the 3 holding midfielders in the middle tbh. Even against Queens, the amount of time the ball dropped back into the space between the midfield and the strikers was endless and nobody picked it up. Having DKD in behind rudden dropping Paton would bring so much more to us. I like Paton but I think Osman is better defensively and would just play it to McShane and let him be the playmaker of the team. I’d also have Robson on the left and Petra/Waddington on the right. I don’t think Jarvis is good enough and he’s being selected over the other two which says a lot.

It's probably just as well I'm not in the league any more...

1896 Scottish Cup final between Hibs and Hearts. 3-1 to Hearts. The only Scottish Cup final to be played outside of Glasgow ( Logie Green, Edinburgh).

I like Ian Blackford and I want Scottish independence, but chairman of a investment company at 3k a month, I thought he had a full time job? Be nice if in a independent country we could get rid of the UK political snouts in troughs mentality

I think it's a little bit much to psycho-analyze a semi-professional football manager's post-match interviews. Just a thought. I would also never expect him to look into the camera, considering he's not reading out the news on the telly but rather talking to Dennis!

YAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-47843999

Staying up north for a week in a cottage with wife, dog and of course T. River Oykel in background appreciating the view of Scotland’s national lager being consumed in its presence.

Totally agree on all the Harvey stuff but no where near as optimistic on the forum last week. I’ve already covered why so no point repeating myself. I’m a member of the Trust and have been since 2003. I totally agree with its aims and think it’s run well. I’m also on the Supporters Club board so I’ll take back a lot of what you say to the meeting on Tuesday. Totally agree with the £5 membership thing and it needs to be better. The numbers for the weekly scheme are actually going up, but aye, things could be advertised better. Regarding the web presence and social media, I update the Facebook page when it’s about things specific to the SC, but didn’t want to use it as a page to just repeat what was being posted on the club and trust pages. Maybe we should look at that again. The legends dinner will happen at some point but some of the winners were unavailable when a date was suggested so will probably be early next season. Things could certainly be done better, but like with a lot of organisations it needs the people to be able to do things. Most members of the Supporters club committee have match day roles, turnstyles, selling programmes, 50/50 draw tickets, stewarding. The SC hold the lease for the stadium and have agreements with Tweedmouth Rangers and Matty Moor youth coaching (who’s also a committee member). They donate indirectly to Berwick Juniors by paying NCC for the use of Iverson. The money really comes from the Weekly Scheme, rent from the Bandits, from the phone mast in the ground and any other fundraising events. A lot is done with the upkeep of the ground. In the summer I think role we played along with the Trust was vital in stopping the Watkins and co debacle. But again, it needs people to do things. There’s spaces on the committee for anyone wanting to get involved. Great post by Dale and I agree with nearly it all. The complacency and the lack or urgency is still there for me. I thought that’s what I saw at the forum last week, and I think that’s why we’ll fail to act this week. You could go back to Crease. A stop gap who was made permanent. It was almost painful at the end as he went onto Radio Newcastle to criticise the fans and it took the Supporters groups putting their foot down for any action to be taken. Yano stayed long beyond losing the plot, and even then some on the board were reluctant to see him go. Cough should have gone at the end of his full season but stayed and was sacked at the worst possible time. The appointments of Yano, Horn and Harvey showed we were happy to take a ‘risk’ on young inexperienced managers, but it keeps failing and I’d argue it’s far from ambitious. Like we’re looking for a someone to deliver a project without getting the basics right. I think it was a fan of another club who said ‘at least you don’t get one of the same old dinosaurs who do the rounds’, but maybe we need to get the basics right first and get someone in with experience of challenging at the top end of this league. The first team winning games as a priority. The excuses/reasons and accusations of negativity are boring when you see nothing changing and see no reason to all of a sudden become positive. It’s an absolute chore supporting Berwick Rangers when it should be something you enjoy.

Has he changed his name already?

Andreas Hadenius started 3 games in a row for us, and we didn't lose any of them. He's been on the bench since and we've lost 7 in a row. Yesterday JM's best pal Martin Woods is hurt so of course the CLOWN turns to 19 yr old Callum Moore who's made one previous cameo for the first team while Hadenius again sits on the bench along with both Miller and Nelson!! Get out of my club JM you effin clown! McPake/Boyle for the run in, at least they'll drop JM's pals play no matter what philosophy.

This is the nicest thread on the forum. Well done all who regularly post on it in keeping things mostly civil and on topic.

You are Johnny Harvey and I claim my £10 How many fucking accounts has the clown got on here?

I want to go back to the day when I thought Baird & McHugh playing upfront together was sh**e.

The biggest betrayal is the 48% who voted Remain being ignored for the racist tail of the Leave campaign.

An adventure ?? Not how I see it at all tbh. I’ll be paying good money to watch part time footballers. The adventure will be for the average players coming to our all seater stadium to play in front of c.3000 crowds. I will still go to the games but I’m not looking forward to it. We should not be in this position. The board, managers and most of the players have let us down badly. Adventure, I don’t see it like that. I see it as an embarrassment.

When Petravicius gets fed balls down to the byline he delivers. Not sure how we can dismiss his assist stats. He is no use playing in front of defenders really but he only has to do that because of our laboured midfield. When you give him balls he can run on to, good things happen. It happened in precisely that manner yestersay and agains Partick. The one time we worked him free to hit the byline he produced an assist. He is not the issue, our painstakingly slow, momentumless build up is the issue IMO.

Having been following Darvels results and being to a few games I would say that they are not far off a strongly challenging team with those boys the have got, few minor adjustments would see them up there next season. Although Darvel seem to have went to extreme lenghts to achieve a top place spot they will seemingly get next season. Respect to the players still playing for them despite clearly not being wanted from other “ fans” . Hope the boys get the results in from now to end of season

A little write up from a sport journalist on Lyndon Dykes for your info. “Lyndon Dykes, the Australian terror who can do a job for any team in Scotland It’s easy to look at a team like Queen of the South, an Ayr United, an Edinburgh City and sing the praises of their top and pretty much only goalscorer and act like every game involving these “one-man teams” is pretty much a 1 v. 11, but that’s not the case, is it? I propose a small experiment you can do next time you watch a game involving a one-man team: work out the top-man’s weaknesses as they all have some, and see who’s picking up the slack for them. No doubt you will find 2 or 3 players who are doing all the running, all the passing, all the hold-up play for the star man, and that’s proven by the fact that even when the top player in these teams turn up on the day in big fashion, they are still beatable, some even… very beatable. Ayr have Moffat and Murdoch, Edinburgh have Smith and Shepherd, but there’s one man who can do all of these players’ jobs, and then some. Lyndon f***ing Dykes. Queen of the South play a rather strange system, with the big guy up top dropping back to get the ball, allowing Scottish Messi to roam and find the gaps. You would assume this wouldn’t work, and you’d ask yourself “What in the world is Naismith playing at?”, but if there’s one thing the Queens gaffer has nailed down is how to utilise his strikers. Dykes is a workhorse, he does the running for himself and for Dobbie effortlessly and even though most of the time it’s as pretty as a St. Mirren - Hamilton game, it’s effective, and he receives no props for it. It’s a thankless job which he performs week in, week out. Let’s take for example, Queen of the South - Dundee, Scottish Cup replay. Granted, Dobbie scored a hat-trick, one of which was an absolute pinger, so it’s easy to say Stephen Dobbie won that game for Queens. Incorrect. You may think I’m mad, but there’s method to this madness, pull a chair, make a cup of tea or coffee, and let me enlighten you. Goal number one, Stephen Dobbie screamer. The story of this goal begins with a Dundee corner, dealt with by the Queens defence, and so begins the counter-attack. Dykes is there to pick it up, with Dobbie being allowed to roam in the attacking third, wherever he can find a gap, in this instance, very wide on the right. Dykes is quickly closed down by two Dundee players, makes some room for himself and has the vision and self-awareness to find Dobbie on the right, as let’s be serious, if he kept running he would’ve lost that, but he knows that, which is why he unleashed God on the right. This isn’t where his part in the goal stops however, as Dobbie is surrounded by four Dundee players, Lyndon, along with Todd and Stirling make excellent runs forward to ease the pressure off Dobbie, who finds some space and does what he does best. 1-0. Job nowhere nearly done. Dykes continues to drop back and link up with midfield, bring Dundee players with him wherever he goes, leaving Dobbie acres of space to roam into up top. When defending, Dykes eagerly rushes Dundee defenders, leaving them no room to play the ball, putting in unreal effort to tire out the defence, leaving them clueless when it comes to playing the ball. This influence on the defence, wearing them down minute-by-minute eventually leads to Dobbie’s second. After being pressured for most of the first half by Dykes, an exhausted Innis plays a horrific pass intended for Dieng which Dobbie intercepts and easily puts it past the Dundee keeper. Innis is then subbed off and sent back to Crystal Palace the next day. Dykes’ running ended a player’s Scottish football career. If that isn’t a testament to the effort this man puts in, I don’t know what is. Just before half-time, Lyndon Dykes is there again to get the ball and turn defence into attack, spotting Dieng off his line and thinking “What if I scored from my own half?”. He misses, but it goes to show that he’s a star man, he wants to put on a show, and most importantly he has unreal patter. Throughout the second half Dykes again collects the ball from the halfway line on four occasions and finds Dobbie every time, 1 on 1 with Dieng. One of these, Dobbie miscontrols, the other three Dobbie can’t quite hold his run and is found to be offside. This goes to show the Queens star man isn’t infallible and that Dykes continuously provides for him. You cannot underestimate this man’s service. This leads us to the third and final Queen of the South goal, Dobbie hat-trick. A long ball from the Queens defence finds a Dundee player, and 2-0 up, only two QoS players are the opposition half: the best player on the pitch and Stephen Dobbie. Dykes keeps the pressure on, chasing the Dundee defender for 30 yards which leads to a wayward pass, putting Dobbie through to seal his hat-trick and the Queen of the South victory. You may look at this last paragraph, with a look on your face resembling that of Sir Isaac Newton upon discovering gravity, and I cannot blame you. In a one man team, it is incredibly hard to find other players who have great impact week in week out, and in this small example, which just so happens to be a game against a Premiership side in which Dobbie found the net 3 times, I think I have made a strong case why Lyndon Dykes is the most impactful player on the pitch for Queens. He doesn’t score goals, but that’s not his job. His job is to run down, press, collect balls from midfield, and most importantly annoy the opposition defence to a level of exhaustion that allows Stephen Dobbie to be the God that he is. I can’t think of a single Premiership side that wouldn’t be greatly improved by Dykes’ unmatched workrate and dedication. If Livingston play him alongside a striker that can finish even a third of his chances, they can finish top 6. Watch out next season for the man that will terrorise your Goldsons, your Ajers and your McKennas into some of the silliest mistakes the Scottish Premiership has ever seen”

Hartley had a great start, seemed fresh and had a lot of good ideas. By the end his team selections were a borderline sectionable offence and he really didn't seem to give a f**k any more. He was massively hamstrung by the sale of Stewart and Hemmings for comparative buttons (another reason to be asking some searching questions of Nelms), but he signed a load of absolute dross and fully deserved his jotters. Arguably, the last manager we had to get results out of a limited group of players was Jocky in the last 90s before the Marrs unceremoniously binned him for the "experiment". That in itself is quite an interesting "what if" scenario. Had Jocky been allowed the stay and the Marrs decided to build sensibly on him keeping Dundee reasonably comfortably in the SPL. Would we have become a fairly established top tier club in the long run?

We're fucked. For what it's worth I don't buy Hartley was a great manager. He had fresh ideas at the start coupled with two of the best players in the league. I think most even half decent managers could have done what he did with those players at his disposal. Compare it to someone like Steve Clark at Killie, or even Tommy Wright who consistently get the very best out of players. We haven't had that in decades and the boards have consistently appointed whoever they see as the cheapest affordable candidate. That we are still around is a miracle in itself.

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Hartley's the best manager we've had for a long time, he just fucked his final season. Controversial but if we had a clean slate in the championship I'd probably him back.

To be fair it was a 93rd minute equaliser for us at which point Montrose fans would have known there was nothing they were getting from their game. Next best thing is poking fun at your rivals.

Anyone who thinks we could negotiate a better deal with the US, China or India without the leverage the market of the EU offers is a fucking moron.

I have absolutely no doubt Mick will be a success at darvel but if I was the money man or committee behind darvel I’d be getting them to silence some of the muppets on here. Ever heard about going about your business quietly? You’ll get a bit more respect and won’t have such a big target on your back (ie shouting from the rooftops about what your doing will naturally get teams more up for games against you and undoubtedly make your job harder)

I don't think Morton 10-2 throw games late in the season mate.

In no way does that narrow it down any.

The Men They Couldn't hang-Green fields of France

^^^ "Infuriating things you do" thread for this pish

I find it quite interesting that my boyfriend does a lot of the things that you guys find your wives/girlfriends do. Either we have some kind of odd gender-reversal thing going or all partners generally do the same annoying shit, regardless of gender.

I'd take 9th and a shot at the play-offs right now.

Afternoon. First time poster long time reader. I’ve never felt the need to write a post before but this season has finally beaten me into it. So here goes. Your opinion may differ but this is how I see it. This is the worst team I’ve ever seen, Johnny Harvey seems clueless. I have no idea what happens at half time but when the team comes out it’s like a different 11. 3 up away to Clyde and it ends up as a draw? Stirling a couple of weeks ago we had a decent first half then the second half was completely different, the team lost shape and purpose . He seems unable to motivate and manage the squad. The board took a gamble on a young manager and its not worked out. I don’t blame them for this but perhaps it’s time to admit it hasn’t worked and think about a change. Signings have been pretty poor. You can take a chance on lower league players, Lewis Barr has been great but the rest have failed. Far too many of them. It’s like Johnny has taken far too many risks on players unproven in this league hoping for a big payoff. He’s let people likeWillis go because he couldn’t manage him, Todd too was “difficult”. He tried to play from the back and then abandoned it. Loan signings have been terrible too. A six aside player upfront who only played once for his parent club? Risk failed. Knox from Livingston? I knew he was always on the lookout for another club and he’s missed most of the season on trial elsewhere. That was a waste of a loan spot. the 3rd string keeper from Cowdenbeath? Why not a striker or midfielder on loan? We had a reserve team keeper who has now left because there was no chance of progression. The kick in the teeth for him was when the goalkeeping coach was on the subs bench in front of him. An let’s not forget the assistant coach in defence against Stirling! What an absolutely ridiculous decision. We have reserves for a reason and to put in the assistant coach who was so unfit and dreadful was completely embarrassing. JH has made too many bad decisions, gambled too many times for my liking. the post match interview are now tired and the same old blah blah blah. And the officials have done us out of so many games? Utter drivel. I’ve been to most of the games home and away and he must be watching something different. There is no conspiracy, 13 penalties against us, not surprising given that we spend most of the game furiously defending the barrage against us. I feel sorry for Sean Brennan, he’s a decent enough keeper but having so many shots against you must take its toll. and speaking of reserves why have all the reserve coaches quit a couple of games before the end of the season? next stop boardroom. i was at the fan forum and I though it was quite good. John Bell seems to have a direction and a plan. He put it out there for us to see. A few in the room though it was pish (a comment I heard) but it seemed reasonable to me. There are still a few on the board however that I don’t actually know what they do. The current chairman wasn’t there and he’s staying on as a director. It I was happy with the plan, whether is plays out is another matter but it’s the first plan I’ve seen. We’ve been on a downward spiral for years hoping for a cup run to boost the coffers again. This is a risky way to run a club and that what John wants to stop and you can’t argue with that. while I’m hear I’ll have a comment on the supporters club and Trust. The trust seem to be doing ok. Activity on social media lets you know they are alive st least and they have supported the Reserves this season to keep them afloat. They have also contributed to the pitch works at the start of the season. All seems reasonable if not game changing. the supporters club? God knows what is going on there. The website vanished after being taken over by a clothing company? And they are virtually non existent on social media. It was £5 for membership but I and several I know haven’t rejoined because we don’t know how! The membership should be huge for only £5 it’s cheap enough to join. So that’s a reasonable loss of revenue for the club. The schemes the run are poorly advertised and pushed too. Weekly scheme and bond scheme should have far many more members. Given that a director of the football club is the chairman of the Supporters club this is an easily accessible way to raise vital funds but it’s not happening. Annual legends dinner anybody? That’s not happened either. thers always the talk of them having donated £x to the club but it’s via schemes like the 50/50 draw and lotteries that other clubs run via the football club, not the supporters club. It’s a bit of a strange setup. right that’s that off my chest. Happy to stand corrected on the above if I’ve made any glaring errors or assumptions.

Anyone able to explain the pitch markings? Found this info at thestrawplaiters.com... "The Laws of the game and various F.A. rules set out what must happen in a football match. However, the Laws did not always set out what should NOT happen. I get the impression that the Victorians took a common sense view of the game and innovated as required – letting the rules catch up as and when. There are a number of significant examples such as a substitution during a game in 1895 which is set out in an article further down Onlooker. Another example surrounds the myth that goalkeepers wore the same colour jersey as the rest of the team until 1909 when the Laws were changed (see the article in the Library). There are many examples of keepers wearing different colour jerseys before this date. It was obviously very useful for a referee to know who was in goal so some teams obliged. When I researched the penalty kick I discovered a problem that the referees of the time must have encountered. The plan on the left shows a football pitch from 1890 when the penalty kick was introduced (1891 in Football League games). The solid white line across the pitch is the penalty kick line, 12 yards from the goal line. A penalty kick was taken on the penalty line at a point chosen by the kicker – usually in front of goal. The bra shaped arcs are the six yard lines, measured from each post. Players had to be 6 yards from the kick so the dotted line was to keep outfield players back. What happened when a penalty kick was taken right in front of goal? The bra shaped 6 yard area did not help the referee ensure that the keeper was six yards away from the kick. I wondered if a line was ever drawn across the two arcs thus making a six yard line (and a stepping stone to the rectangular 6 yard box). I looked at many photos of the era which were inconclusive but I then came across footage of an 1898 League game between Blackburn Rovers and West Brom. Look at the still from the footage, above. There is a line linking the two arcs thus giving the referee some help in the penalty taking process. There is also a central line marking the centre of the goal which looks like a pitch marking but it may be a scrape by the keeper. Addendum. Since publishing this article I have been given a newspaper clip from 1901 which states that “It is advisable to draw a dotted line showing the distance which the goalkeeper may come out to face a penalty kick. Most clubs do this, but the laws of the game do not make it compulsory.” The following year the rectangular six yard box that we see today was introduced."

I forget how thick you are until you post and remind me. Its a central question because Mogg et co act as if May can simply implement their interpretation of the Conservative manifesto. Even if every Tory MP voted with her there’s no guarantee that would happen because it’s a MINORITY GOVERNMENT.

3 years is crazy at this stage of his career; I hope there is provision for us ending it earlier if he does not play... I know that Neilson knows him well from his times at Hearts and MK Dons, and must rate him highly, but surely his level of absence was predictable when he was signed in January? I don't think that we have the squad in place to afford to carry a potential "star" who plays 1 game a month... As I did a month ago, I still disagree with this. If we lose in the playoffs, we have more chance of being promoted next season with Neilson in charge than: (i) paying to sack him and his coaching staff; (ii) spending time to recruit another manager (who may or may not be better - and history would suggest there is more chance of the latter than the former); (iii) paying off Neilson's squad members that are not liked by the new manager; and (iv) funding a squad liked by the new manager (which players may or may not be better - and history would suggest there is more chance of the latter than the former). Those are big steps, and even top clubs don't excel in them - our track record shows that we can mess them up spectacularly. I don't want to put words in the mouth of @Pull My Strings, however his stance appears to be similar to a number of Arabs (myself included): Laszlo should have been sacked in the summer or should have been allowed some time to work with his squad. The worst thing that we could have done was give him the finances to build his squad then sack him after a handful of games, leaving us with a squad of duds... which is precisely what we did.

Cant stop thinking about how good it was that you lot did not win the league against us. Any of you who claim you would not celebrate another team preventing your rivals winning the league against us are fucking deluded

Interesting comment above about Neilson only taking credit for the positives. It could be argued that there are those who can only see the negatives. As disappointing and frustrating as last night was we did go away to the best team in the division and utterly dominate them for almost the entire game. If the disappointing end was down to Neilson then so was the 90 minutes which preceded it. He's surely not responsible for missing all those chances which would have put the game to bed (although there's clearly something which needs to change in that regard). Unless we go backwards from here then I think he deserves a full season to have another crack at it. For the record I said the same about McKinnon, although that was a marginal call. I'd have shot Laszlo into the sun after the horsing at Falkirk.

Montrose celebrating our equaliser is one of the most tinpot things I've heard.

f**k them then - it's my club regardless of if we're playing in the Premiership or the East of Scotland league.

McKinnon has made some poor decisions and has been far too negative in many games, but 95% of the blame still sits with Hartley, that c**t of a "scout" and the two bellends who gave them carte blanche to sign a squad of dug shite. Campbell and Lang are c***s.

I'm not going to take lessons from someone who 1) Changes his mind every 5 minutes to troll on here 2) Thinks the US, China and India will give an independent UK better trading terms than they give to the entire EU 3) Supports St Mirren