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Updates from last night, lifted from a message that was forwarded to myself Lang Extremely nervous — gives the air of someone who knew she was in for a hard time. Admitted that mistakes had been made over the past year but that everyone had the club's best intentions at heart. The only mistakes she openly admitted to was that the academy announcement could have been better handled from a PR perspective. Exciting times ahead off the pitch with the artificial pitch being built which would allow the club to generate extra income. Also the redevelopment of the mezzanine level of the south stand was bringing in extra income. Hartley Admitted she was disappointed with how things worked out but that Hartley came with good references (Alex Smith and Craig Brown were quoted as providing these) and had experience of promotion and consolidating a team in the Premier League (these were the key selection criteria). Was surprised that the summer recruitment was so poor given that the Scout was the same guy who had identified guys like Jakubiak and Robson. Our record in the second half of the season (2nd highest points total being St Mirren) meant the club had faith in Hartley. It was clear from the start of this season that the record was not good enough and that change had to happen. Morton/McKinnon Never really covered the recruitment issue in much detail but needless to say they think McKinnon is the man to take us forward. They received notice of the SFAs decision to uphold Morton's appeal and are surprised and disappointed. Admitted they had not received full notice of the judgement. ML was unable to represent the club at the tribunal as she is a serving lawyer and as such is barred from appearing before tribunals. The club was represented by a firm of solicitors from Edinburgh. Academy ML then proceeded to outline the timeline for the academy and basically put the blame at the door of the SFA for 'moving the goalposts' in terms of funding via Project Brave. For the academy to have obtained 'elite status' it would have been forced to have built an indoor facility which would have only been used for 10 weeks of the year — the club estimated this would cost in the region of £1 million. They explored options of using existing indoor facilities such as Grangemouth (rejected as not big enough) and the Oriam (outwit the 20 mile radius of FFC by 3 miles). The board made a decision that this was not financially viable and given that Stenny and the Shire had pulled funding the academy — the choice was clear that they should stop funding it. It was clear that the academy was entirely separate entity from the club and a consortium of 'local business men' had approached the academy and not the club to continue its funding. This proposal was then brought to the FFC board but would require FFC to provide a player a pathway for all academy kids. FFC was uncomfortable with this and decided not to do it. Lewis FSC were first up with questions saying that the club had made a huge blunder with its statement which essentially branded Falkirk supporters as racists. They demanded a retraction ML body swerved the retraction comment but stated that the club had a duty of care to its employees and had to send a strong message that racism was unacceptable. It was then suggested the club had jumped the gun with condemning supports until guilt had been proven. ML said it was her understanding the Police enquires into the incident were still ongoing so this wasn't finished. Football Ray McKinnon didn't make a statement but said he was more than happy to take questions. The football strategy is that he wants a first team squad of 20 (including two GKs) made up of players who are capable of playing in the top 4 of the Championship or bottom half of the Premiership. He wants a reserve squad of 10 (including one GK) who are capable of filling in gaps in the first team if required. Vital that all players in both squads have a medium to high chance of becoming sellable assets. Wants to move on 6-8 players in January and bring in a similar number. The board have made extra funds available (from cash reserves) to allow him to get players without being contingent on selling people first. Doesn't expect to get any money for any of those he wants to move on. Felt decision to move on guys like Owen-Evans and Froxylias was clear — didn't think the guys were of sufficient quality for FFC. McKinnon says he has a strong recruitment network and would watch every player personally. He has been to England many times as has Darren Taylor and let slip he was recently at a Blackburn Rovers game. He spoke to a potential player yesterday and is confident of getting that over the line. He also has someone coming into training on Friday and he is speaking regularly to agents and contacts (people he trusts). Admitted that January is very difficult to get players in as all the best ones are under contract at other clubs or there is fierce competition for the free agents. Finances Have over £600k in the bank and the club made a small profit last year (£130k) however this is set against losses for the past two financial years. The profit is largely driven by money received as part of transfer fees (Tony Gallacher, Stephen Kingsley transfer to Hull and Will Vaulks 50th appearance for Rotherham). The events at the stadium also bring in around £125k with zero risk to the club. There was also a small cost saving decision to withdraw funding for the academy. There is also still money out there which potentially could come our way. If Biabi appears for Swansea first team then we'll get £125k. Other payments will also be triggered if Gallacher features for Liverpool first team or Will Vaulks makes it to 100 appearances for Rotherham. Speculation that Vaulks may move on to bigger things so that will also trigger a payment. The club will dip into the £600k cash reserves to support McKinnon in January. Commercial avenues are drying up and difficult to squeeze more cash out of a small pool of sponsors. Club needs to diversify but recognition that KK had done well in difficult circumstances.

£800k of new shares available Buying in from £10/month Larger “Patrons” can own up to 100k of shares (7%) max. Board to be chosen from all shareholders (not sure of mechanism) Current MSG group shareholding would drop to under 33% if all the 800k is taken up. Shares will be at 33p. Looking to launch April In the short term Patrons (larger donors) will be the key to raising the bulk of the money quickly IMO. I understand that work is well under way with the consortium guys involved. MSG have agreed in “principle”. Kenny Jamieson, who I know well, is a great guy, worked at a high level in business is pulling it all together. It will be put together very professionally. We need to get behind this if we want change IMO.

Unfortunately many do, like the fucking moron you quoted. That theory doesn't take any account of the fact that fruit farmers need a committed and motivated workforce for 6-8 months out of the year. Giving someone the choice between forced labour for the equivalent of about £2 per hour or starvation helps no one. The farmer is going to get a large unhappy workforce who will do the absolute minimum necessary. A scheme to get long term unemployed would, like almost every other piece of "welfare reform" be more expensive to run than it would actually save. By the time you've sorted out transport costs, insurance, adapted the UC system to take account of 6-8 months out of the system, systems to monitor attendance etc etc, it becomes hugely counter-productive, especially as the actual percentage spend from the Welfare Budget on working age jobseekers is comparatively miniscule. All it does is give absolute no-righters some weird sense of satisfaction that poor folk are getting "what they deserve"

And apart from craven boardroom sycophants like yourself, no Falkirk fan would trust the present regime, especially that shambles of a chairwoman and CEO, to run a bath either. Time you took another "break" from this forum, make it a long one this time.

Jesus ....that could have been written in 1845, and it smacks heavily of the 'this idea obviously applies to other people and not to myself or my family' school of thought. Why not go the full hog and return to the days when only the landed gentry had the vote ? And there must be 000's of Perthshire chimneys which would benefit from a wean with a brush, no ?

Recall a farmer’s wife from Devon/Cornwall on the radio a couple of months ago bemoaning the lack of casual labour to fulfil the harvest this year. She was pretty much saying ‘what is wrong with these people who don’t want two months solid work’? The reporter then asked, what happens to the workforce once the crop has been picked (or along those lines). The woman seriously responded with, “well they go back to wherever *they have arrived from (*presumably a mixture of other parts of the U.K. and migrant workers) and have the opportunity to come back next year”. She genuinely seemed baffled that people might not consider; 2 months hard graft on a minimum wage, travelling long distances with no promise of accommodation and no longer term prospects whatsoever as an attractive career option!!

Again uttering garbage with no understanding of the facts. This selection of office bearers hasn’t even been finalised however skill set and experience will be essential to anyone wishing to join the board. Only people with the appropriate skill sets will have to opportunity to be selected would be my understanding. you do realise we are bottom of the league, the worst full time team in Scotland and owned by a bunch of old men who have no interest in driving the club forward. If this fails to take off (I don’t think it will) we are going no where and fast. Why not support the people driving this rather then slaughter a plan from behind your keyboard and see how it develops. It is not finalised yet and things are to be iron out but the theory is sound and the Patron idea has already generated plenty interest.

Someone asked if we could expect to receive a fee for any of the players he is moving on...hahahaha

The worst thing is, without a shadow of a doubt, the fact that you persist with calling him Snodaldinho.

That'll be his dinner money

Any word if we are doing a guard of honour for the early season champions?

The fact remains that TJ goes into these discussions with the mandate from the SJFA members that the Juniors must stay intact and have access to SFA Licencing. Now whilst that can be accommodated within the existing Pyramid structure in both the West and the North, it cannot in the East. That should be the PWG’s position with no compromise, “We will accept the West Juniors and North Juniors into the Pyramid as they are, but for that to happen you have to respect the East of Scotland League’s position and compromise with the East Juniors”, and point towards their new members from Junior football as the precedent. At that point, the PWG’s go forward position should have been to facilitate a meeting of SFA, EoS and ERJFA to discuss a merger, if there is no agreement then the SJFA are not allowed in and a new WoSFL is formed to accommodate those clubs in the West wanting access to the Pyramid, and those clubs in the East continue to move over to the EoS if they want Pyramid access. The SFA hold all the cards here and it would be a reasonable position for the PWG to adopt, and that may well have been the case and discussion are ongoing, we don’t really know for sure. Anything else such as allowing ERJFA access is wrong, and a slap in the face for 25 former Junior clubs and the EoSFL. The SFA really should bring all this into the open so clubs know the score, but they wont, so we'll all continue to chew over speculation and rumour and based on that some clubs will have to make a decision before 31st March.

So a nice Christmas break, then.

I'm not particularly surprised. You've made your dislike and distrust of the manager very clear elsewhere. I'd assume that would make it harder for you to see, objectively, what he's doing here. Am I Robinson's biggest fan? Not really, but that's not the conversation we're having here. He's made many mistakes, made poor signings. In his (almost) two years in charge, could anyone else have done better being dealt with the same hand? They'd have to have done very, very well to do so. We'll all see in 10 days time how his decision last night, and beforehand, fully pan out. I genuinely hope it works out for him and we end with three wins. I am, however, starting to see a section of supporters on Twitter and on forums having the same kind of reactions to every bad result that we saw towards the end of McGhee's tenure and also to McCall's. We're at the point of being one bad result away from it all going off again. If that continues, it'll of course end with the manager being punted (again!).

They would for me specifically, which was the basis of my answer.

Im not really sure you know what you’re trying to say here. Dont get me wrong its nice you’re trying but its not clear. Just fyi, my wife only take a half hour lunch break, which she normally fills with a sandwich at her desk. If you fancy giving it a go and seeing for yourself id suggest you go and spend 6 years at uni (she intercalated a degree in pharmacology) and another 6 years training when you’ve qualified working 100 hour weeks and 18 hour nightshifts (of which you’re only being paid for 10hours). Im not saying that GP’s aren’t well paid but your assertion that they are somehow lazy and spend their days dancing with unicorns and eating scones on a 5 hour lunch break is madness. In fact even during her maternity leave she has been required to continue studying to ensure her knowledge is up to date, many of these courses she has to pay for herself and doesnt get the money back for. I’d wager that the half hour you spent googling GP’s salaries then punching your fists off the keyboard on P&B could have been better spent googling ‘how to not be an ignorant c**t’.

One I'm sure the Pars will appreciate.

10/10 for Friday, first for a while. And my most pleasing seeing as it was one of those hit “result” and hope moments....could have been anything given there was a few genuine 25% guesses. Settled on a different answer for the book series one at the last second to secure the mark too! Phew!

Got a lovely photo of Gatwick earlier on...

Wish you were from this forum at times.

I have a bigger issue with folk spouting absolute pish and saying "everyone is entitled to their opinion". No, everyone isn't entitled to their opinion; you're entitled to your informed opinion, which are two very different things.. You can't just spew utter shite and use "it's my opinion" to make it sound acceptable. That's my opinion on it anyway...

We have the final (hopefully, please..) Court date for getting full adoption of our little rascal. It's a hellishly long process (3 years if you include the whole adoption meetings etc) but I understand that it has to be thorough process. Hopefully early January brings the best present. The various children's panel/LAC reviews have always been fair and professional.

How many goals will Big Sam rack up against this utter rabble?

Just a still image but....

Let’s get one thing very clear, you hear absolutely f**k all.

Shut up you c**t.

As an Irish Catholic from Glasgow, I can safely say one of the reasons I support United is to get away from all that pish

Happy with Bannigan re-signing. Anyone unhappy with that is just being churlish!

Sounds exactly what is needed & fully onboard.

F£lkirk

Surely the solution, and the best fit, is for the WRSJFA to bolt onto the Pyramid in it's entirety as has been spoken about often enough to thence become a feeder to the LL, the ERSJFA, minus - at the very least - the West Lothian clubs, becomes a Tayside League and, alongside the NRSJFA, becomes a feeder to the HL while the West Lothian clubs merge in an orderly fashion with an EoSFL that has proven itself more than accommodating to just such a type of well-ordered coming together in the very recent past?

Hope Robinson plays last night's team again for a laugh

Interm protection order granted,our daughter never turned up.

You know what, I apologise, you’re absolutely right name calling won’t win any votes. I do feel strongly that peoples absolute loyalty to a union which beyond any reasonable doubt is not in our interest is beyond madness. If someone could actually tell me whats so special about being british that makes it worth tagging along with brexit, austerity and seemingly endless tory reign then i’d love to hear it?

I think the £10pm scheme will attract a lot of interest. I know a lot of fans didn't commit to the Bairn for Life scheme as they felt it should have been for shares in the club. According to the Herald there will be a Forum in the next month or so to present the scheme to the fans.

@theonehibsfanthatownsalltheaccounts is the last 1 pointer

Check his nappy!

That's two dugs that have survived house fires. Grimbo will be ragin'

Tut tut tut.

How's that any different to what we have now? Don't know if you've noticed but our current board aren't exactly nailing it.

I don’t see what’s particularly bad about Rab, he just talks about Liverpool all the time in the appropriate section of the forum. More than likely an insufferable bellend but that really isn’t such a crime on here.

The bit about the photo surviving reminds me of this -

Forced labour for less than minimum wage would certainly boost their self respect. I have nothing against making all efforts to ensure people who can work, do work but they should receive a fair pay for the job. I don't buy the right wing media narrative that there are a huge number of people living the 'shameless'type life on long term benefits with no attempt to find work.

What a player big Samaras was.

Think its a fairly accurate description of where the UK is heading post hard brexit. Imagine being so craven and servile that you think going along with that is for the best.

Far too sensible.

Yes we have been given a 22 day interm protection order and the next step is waiting on a sheriff court date.

Speaking to a member of the SPFL tonight. Marvin Bartley signing in January as Player/Chairman who will pay the fine to Morton out of his own pocket while also two footing Margaret Lang. What a result for the Bairns who come out of this unscathed in what has been a bumpy few months. #NothingButMarvinBartley