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It's simple really, while it's a bitter pill to swallow, it effectively funds the Scottish game. I.e. tv companies want as many of these games as possible and will use it as part their marketing tools to gain as many viewers as they can. I personally have come to the end of the road with it all. My kids are now wanting to come to the football with me on a Saturday so I've decided to give up my season ticket at Celtic and will be taking up a parent and child ST at Dumbarton as of next season. I can't bare the thought of them sitting with me at CP and listening to the nonsense I need to listen to on a regular basis.

Being an eighteen year old Clyde fan means that your entire footballing memory consists of back-to-back relegations from the First Division, finishing below East Stirling as the worst side in the entire country and now fast approaching a decade spent stinking out the fourth tier of Scottish football. Just let that sink in. I'd be grateful of a two year ban from football under those circumstances.

It's difficult to be honest. You often want to go up and tell them to shut the fk up but then you realise that you might get that bottle of buckie smashed off your head, they might stab you or come back with 3 mates next week to do you. You deal with this type of person every week and you hate them but you keep going back because you love the club you've been brought up supporting. For me and I'm sure others there just comes a time when you've had enough. My biggest fear was taking the kids to Celtic and having to come up with an answer to the question "Daddy, what does the IRA mean?" Well kids, a long long time ago in another Country..... how do you even begin to answer that? Nice to see a bit of support on here, I've been getting heavily pounded in real life for this decision. Some people genuinely can't understand what I'm thinking.

You’re officially a diddy. Welcome brother.

Stuart, if you're reading this, take it from someone who is going down to Dumfries in his car tomorrow so will be completely dry and not in any way involved - you're a c**t son.

First but not the last for today.

We're all thinking it; young Stalin, wid

I hope you're not doing the eulogy.

Considering spending the entire challenge cup final singing songs about the IRA, just to troll tartantony.

That was an excellent episode, I just don't understand the hate, I think that it must be an age thing, in the way that people think that summers were longer and sunnier in their youth and that it always snowed at Christmas!!! Tonight's episode, I think would stand up against any of the previous episodes!!! I've got to say though that Winston stole the show IMO, the One Direction rant is going to go down as an all time classic scene and his class act at the end was a joy!!! If you're not enjoying, stop watching it, but I'll guarantee that in the end you'll have missed out!!!

Welcome aboard, Tony. Switching teams must be pretty tough, but I think your reasons are admirable. My English teacher at school did the same with her kids (they were brought up as St Mirren fans) and so hopefully there are plenty more following your trend. Being a Sons fan is great. You'll spend most of the time cold, frustrated and working out how much you can justify spending to watch what will, in all likelihood, be a defeat, but I wouldn't change it for the world. I love the camaraderie, the fact that I've met loads of people, and nothing beats the feeling you get when you tell people you support a diddy team, especially when you meet another diddy team's fan and just have an instant connection! Well, aside from celebrating an injury time winner in some bizarre town in the middle of nowhere. That's pretty great. It should be dead easy to get your kids involved too. Being a mascot is pretty easy to sort out, and all the players are more than happy to dish out high-fives at the tunnel or sign programmes and stuff (well, they were when I was wee!). You get a level of access and a connection that you can't get at big teams.

Don’t know about other Dees but I’ve never read/listened to an interview with the Hamilton manager. Who even is the Hamilton manager?

Hurray! Pittodrie is safe!

Or D - Couldn't give a f**k

It is incredible listening to them talk about it. Ooh it's very sensitive, small minority, Montrose hate Arbroath, not football's problem etc etc. If a set of fans sang 'up to their knees in muslim blood' all hell would break loose and they would have the book thrown at them and quite rightly so. What is this bizarre acceptance in Scotland that what we have is any different or more acceptable?

I genuinely can't remember any episode where I was "pishing myself the whole time", episodes like their holiday to Canada had me chuckling once or twice. Folks expectations have gone absolutely mental because its been away and they've built it all up their minds that it was far funnier. Getting fucking tedious coming in here and seeing the same folk moaning about only laughing "once or twice" as if thats any different to the show at any point in its history.

I totally agree. I was really just referring to the tolerance for intolerance shown by fools in the media like Young. He angered me too with his stuff about sectarianism being a social problem that football merely reflects. I think that football in the form of two clubs is now its last remaining big driver.

Absolutely. As a 7 year old growing up in Inverness in 1980, my uncle was sort of steering me towards the blue part of Glasgow. Then came the riot at the cup final, and I vividly remember my dad (who hates football) telling me that I could support a team if I wanted, but not any of the Auld Firm. I shrugged my shoulders and said, I was born in Falkirk, I'll support them. Then I went and looked at the league table... A couple of years later my mum phoned up the club to ask if there was such a thing as a supporters' club. She spoke to Brian Guthrie, and before you knew it we were the guests of the club for a game against Clyde, stadium tour, meet all the players, the works. The game got postponed, but I watched the lads train on the pitch (!!!) and was invited back a couple of months later and was the mascot for a game against Clydebank. It all spiralled downhill from there... Never ever ever for one second have I felt anything apart from supreme gratitude to my dad for having that talk with me. I am very sure your kids will feel the same @Tartantony

Looking at recent pints has me reminiscing about a day back in November when I had one of, if not the best pint of Tennents I have ever had. Ice cold, decent head and perfect fizz. Served on a formuca table with Tennents beer mat. £2.80 a pint and enjoyed in the company of fellow men just drinking the afternoon away watching the horse racing. Brings a tear to my eye.

So this week, yet more businesses leaving the UK (unilever saying its not brexit but thats a good way to stop boycotts from the knuckledraggers). other businesses looking for large concessions and the UK government spending billions preparing for brexit, yet we can’t find the money to give kids hot meals in school, leave people waiting for days in hospital corridors and think its ok for people to work for free in trial shifts. Do people honestly honestly think removing the checks and balances the EU gives us and giving the tories free reign to do whatever they want. Its fucking scary that blue passports are enough to allow mutants to be happy at the absolute destruction of any decency from our government. If the SNP go for an indy ref and we’re defeated again we deserve it. f**k brexit, f**k the tories and f**k anyone who thinks this is a good move.

Yeah i think the last game they mentioned Collum being a Catholic school teacher. Never mentioned when he refs any other match so it's clearly an attempt at stirring the pot which of course it will. I've been going to a handful of games a season at Dumbarton for about 5 years now and do really enjoy it. Just bought the kids their tops and scarfs and we're going to the challenge cup final next week which has them over excited just now.

Yeah, I'm not sure I understand the accepting relegation stance. I see the argument of "we'll win more games" banded around and I'm not sure why people are assuming that. Our record against lower league opposition whilst we've been a Championship side is been absolutely rotten, who's to say we do well with a smaller budget against them? Agree with Nowhereman that we could easily find ourselves fighting relegation to the Lowland League. And to pick up briefly on the point made by OKI about remaining in business - that becomes a hell of a lot easier when you're raking in over £100K in prize money, so yeah, I'll accpet being a bottom half Championship team for the next 5 years over winning the Irn Bru Cup - I'm going to have a great day next Saturday regardless of the result and our stay in the Championship has given me some of my best days supporting the club. Always play at the highest level possible IMO.

Dalkeith confirming that they have submitted their application to become SFA members https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1747207845318144&id=116490341723244

It's allowed to, but it's also encouraged by the clubs. Even the fans who say on here that they don't like or participate in it will get dragged into "what defines sectarianism" and argue that singing about the IRA/UVF and all that shite isn't sectarian. Whether it is or isn't surely all can see that it goes hand in hand and is a huge part of the attitude that has to be stamped out. As long as fans are encouraged to treat their clubs as some sort of extension of the politics/religions involved, it will continue, and people in a wee room somewhere will strike deals on which disgusting songs about killing eachother etc pass/fail the dictionary test.

What Chick Young provided was a very neat illustration of why sectarianism thrives where the OF are concerned - it's because it's allowed to. The nonsense he spouted - likening it to a rivalry in Angus, saying it's countrywide, disowning it as a football issue - all served to say we're stuck with it and it's fine by him. I wish someone would tackle him on his ignorant rubbish.

European hero's.

Shree goals in five games for the bona fide goal virgin.

Debatable.

Once a glory seeker...

Fleetwood Mac - Gold Dust Woman

Why should the loyal members of the EoSFL be pushed aside to accommodate new clubs? In the past, when the league had 2 divisions if a new club came along they were placed in the bottom division and the challenge was for them to work their way up. Why should this change because we have so called 'superior' teams joining? Lets not forget that these teams aren't joining the league because they see it is a step up - they see the league as a stepping stone to a step-up. They'll have no loyalty to the league what-so-ever. There also shouldn't be assumptions that these teams join the league with the same standing as they do at present, I'm sure they'll lose some quality as players will leave as they don't fancy the step 'down'. The solution should be the top 8/9 teams at the end of this season should be in division 1 - the rest should be in division 2. I accept that we 'may' have a season where the better team/s are in the lower division, but the league has to be seen to be doing the right thing for all current members.

Have heard the east superleague team is Camelon

Complete lack of education, self-control and basic humanity would be my guess.

Try the cold toast museum in Dingwall.

This is it. The equation of Arbroath hating Montrose is allowed to pass as the equivalent of Rangers hating Celtic. The fact that he brought that up several times and no one called him out on it is demonstration of the problem. Arbroath can hate Montrose and vice versa. Alloa can hate Stirling and vice versa. But they can do so without mentioning ******s and **** and the IRA or the UDF. It's geography. And that's fine. The problem exists because no one wants to address the problem. It's easily solved. No one wants to do it.

Youngs subservience to the arse cheeks, like many of the old guard of Scottish football, is written into his DNA. We really need to see younger, more progressive folk get into the media and into influential positions in the game. People like Young will never accept that anything can/will/needs to change in Scottish Football. Sadly, that doesn't just include on the park. It covers the shite spewing from the stands too. It's all part of the "nothing like it anywhere in the world" atmosphere of the Old Firm* It's not happening though. If anything it will get worse until such time as Rangers can use football to define the rivalry, but it was still bile when they were on top, so lets not hold our breath. Nothing will ever change until the clubs decide it has to. They won't, so we are stuck with it. If they got serious, it would take years but it would turn.

I'm sure Morton were 2-0 up at half time and we were down to ten men as well. Hopkin had been brilliant but got injured and may even have been subbed at half time. I can't even remember any of the other goals, I just remember big yards, poetry in slow motion, dancing through the hapless Morton defence, his big arse bouncing them off left and right as they desperately tried to stop the inevitable before a big TB past the keeper and the greatest celebrations Cappielow has ever seen. He absolutely broke Morton that day. I remember their fans in tears outside the ground. Fucking legend.

Are you posting from your hospital bed, SP? So brave.

Imagine bothering about how your team looks FFS! Never heard such nonsense.

If you’re still talking about him why bother having him on ignore. Happyaccie has clearly got under your skin.

This is pretty much the best post you'll find on the subject, very well delivered Bairnardo. I've found myself going down the "technically not secterian" line but ultimately you are spot on, its all part of the underlying attitude. Unfortunately, I don't see it ever improving until either the SPFL or the clubs take drastic measures to get rid of it. That would likely cost everyone involved a handsome sum of money so I can't see it changing any time soon.

Bet that’s not the first time someone’s said that to him.

They need to ditch methadone mick.

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