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The thing about the Poppies and Rememberance, originally was that the sentiment was 'lest we forget' - not just the lives lost but the attitudes, the decisions that led to all out industrialised slaughter in the first place. The late 20s and 30s was full of people for whom the memory of war was one of utter futility, of pals battalions happily ignorant and marching off to give Johnny Foreigner a damn good thrashing. These days you've got the whole virtue signalling, poppy shaming disgrace of a society where kids walk around in T-shirts with "future soldier" written on them, where the respect due to soldiers has morphed into reverence and almost into full scale worship. It's that kind of military fetishism and jingoism that got all those people killed in the first place.

I've no appetite for it either. We blow untold billions on nuclear weapons designed to wipe out human life and rake in billions flogging arms to tinpot nutters around the world. That's not the behaviour of a society serious about honouring fallen casualties of war.

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I just can't be arsed with it all. I don't feel any affinity towards it. I also think that we should all move on and let it just fade it in to history, much like just about every other conflict/war/battle that came before the first world war.

Yeah, that clearly didn't happen you complete Walter Mitty.

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Well played FIFA. So far they've managed to upset: - Rangers fans - 'Tartan army foot soldiers' - The Sun - Little Englanders - Brit-nat thickos - Craig Brown Troll level - expert.

Fifa made the correct decision regarding the poppy.

I'm well aware of who set up the poppy fund, Haig of course was a national hero who's reputation took a hammering in the years succeeding his death (even if there was little else he could've done than what he did during the war). However, i'd argue that from the famous pacifist oxford debates to appeasement itself there reflected an appetite to avoid another blood letting and that the notion of the futility of the first war was far from a projection of modern values but rather was a contemporary attitude in many sections of society right up to the 2nd war. As for the rest, yeah I seen one on facebook this morning, as for reverence, I believe that's certainly reflected in modern attitudes to soldiers - probably stemming from the Falklands: begun as a pride in "the empire striking back" at a time when the UK was the sick man of Europe. Morphing through the noughties and pushed relentlessly through the right wing press and lately by blatant facebook clicktivism.

That got me banned from the Rangers Supporters one.

Still think we should create a P&B Facebook headline story that ticks all the boxes and see how far it gets. 'Asylum seeking poppyless Travellers who jump housing queues whilst marking your door with an chalk symbol to steal your dog and children'.

TBF I don't really think Gunther has a grasp on the principles of remuneration for labour in a capitalist system.

I will hold a personal respect for those who had to endure the two world wars without buying a poppy or doing anything. I don't see why i should have to plaster it in people's faces. Look at me, I'm totally an amazing person for "showing respect"!!! Fck off.

Disgraceful He should have realised and had the correct shape of poppy couriered down from Edinburgh It's an insult to the fallen etc... bad as Fifa... etc... you get the idea...

The Stranglers : No More Heroes

FIFA just don't respect the poopy.

A supplementary answer/question Cardy, are you facing the right way? Grimbo

Grimbo's electrician IMO.

No surprise to see him. He's been raging about football ever since all the teams came up on his accumulator, but they wouldn't let him claim it because he burnt his coupon.

I'm shocked folk are having a go at the continuity. Still Game has brushed things under the carpet because it's not a comedy that follows a story from week to week. Not telling us why/if Mick lost his job is hardly a big deal. In the past they've failed to mention lots of things:- Sinead being in Manky Frankie's house as a young girl. Later we see her dad isn't Frankie. Who the hell is he to her? In episode 1 Victor refers to his son as "Ma wee Jamie!" when in actual fact his son is named John. Frankie the bookie is outed as Stevie by Tam and Winston. From then on he's referred to as Stevie and no mention of Frankie every crops up. Naveed has a van put through his shop window but is fine and never mentioned again. Winston kicks away £32,500 and we hear no more of it. Shug puts a hole between Jack and Victor's flats. We never see the hole again. We never see any pensioner venture into or mention the rooftop Gairden. Tam is lifted in "Cairds" but we're never told his punishment. Winston is kidnapped in dial-a-bus but is fine next episode. It's not reached the heights of the past (and it was never going to) but it's still one of the best comedies on the box and given the laughs the show has gave us I reckon they deserve a bit of slack.

When I think of my elderly relatives, all dead now, who fought in the Second World War I'm absolutely sure that, despite never speaking about their experiences, they'd have appreciated a massive tifo display of a poppy followed by a chorus of the Billy Boys and a few squaddies in uniform doing the bouncy. It really expresses the quiet dignity that Remembrance Day is all about.

Travel advice for Peasy23 & Swarley "You can cheer, you can do everything according to what you would like to do. "The dress code [of black] is recommended but not required."

Strangely I got 10/10 from this quiz

What's this? Some flaming bloody drongo has done an honest dole bludger out of a job by opening today's quiz box yesterday? No need to Brexitise things so soon, our capital is Canberra not Vienna. A love yous all 7/10 from me. Knew Emperor, MASH, NZ, tennis, Orkneys and sad to say the song. Guessed the rugby league. For fans of a true blue dinky-di link from Oz to the Oz quiz have a dekko at this http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/mind-games/quiz?quizId=5463&sectionId=1

Back from Dublin and my first marathon over the weekend. The target was 3:20 and for nearly 20 miles was bang on it. Hadn't really felt any pain until I got to the top of the hill to get to the 20 mile mark when I got cramp in both legs. The remainder of the race was a mix of running a bit, stopping to stretch and then walking for a minute, apart from the last km - knowing that me crossing the line was automatically being posted to Facebook was a great encouragement to cross the line running! - to finish in 3:41. Still pretty happy with getting through it and Dublin is a superb place to run. The crowd support all the way round was incredible - at some parts was so loud that you could barely hear yourself think!

Full kit w****r ?

Why isn't Dick himself coming?Todd Lumsden had a presentation attendance record of 100% last season. Dick has 0%!another area where dick struggles in comparison to Todd.

My house? Aye every day except for when I need one. I think they must have postal cctv into our place to know when I want an elacky band, so they make sure they don't dump them that day, c***s. Grimbo ETA I've got tons of paper missiles to flick at the missus whilst she's watching eastenders & no elastic weapon to discharge my arsenal.

Shaughnessy in talks about a new deal. Good news

I thought I'd be gutted when another team finally won our trophy (it was ours then!). Turns out the Hibbee's made it all ok!

FFS, haven't even updated all the scores for Wednesday and Thursday is out already. Anyway, I'm no caring because after a dismal run of form, I achieve a career best 9 (NINE) out of 10 in Thursday's quiz. Only got the Nobel Prize one wrong, although obviously it was Guess Central for a couple of them...got drunk at a pub quiz on Sunday where the tennis question came up so at least some good came of that. I've edited Wednesday's table above and I'll do Thursday's tomorrow afternoon, hopefully with the cup draw. NINE!!!!

They should have ended it when they became millionaires. That was the perfect ending. It went a bit downhill after that.

Sprouted his first pube a few weeks ago.

Pretty sure FM is wrong. Think Neil McLaughlin is the youngest then it's Gavin Rushford. I'm sure SLJ will be along soon to tell me I'm wrong though.

That you Ross Forbes?

That must've been absolutely heart breaking for the Falkirk day trippers. How sad

We know how you feel lads, great bump. <3

There's a bit on the news about this FIFA business right now. Simon Weston has been wheeled out. An assortment of public people are bemoaning FIFA "not getting" it and being unflexible and wrong. I think the well-meaning but rather naïve comments saying wear one or don't, everyone has a right to choose etc. are becoming increasingly unworkable as time goes on. People who are vocal about wearing a poppy don't seem to be focused on wearing a poppy so much any more as being focused on showing that they care more than other people regardless. The mawkish sort of displays you see at places like Ibrox (and regardless of available budget/facilities, annual events at Ibrox far surpass anything done anywhere else at football in Britain never mind Scotland) aren't something I would have any interest in regardless of whether I was fundamentally on board with what's being celebrated. In a previous life when I was out in public regularly and in town I would usually stick whatever spare change I happened to have on me in a tin if I saw one and put a poppy through the strap of my backpack. Within about three hours it was invariably ruined so I stopped that. I will say that I personally have never witnessed or experienced any of the fervent self-appointed dignity police that so many facebook screenshots appear here document but my response to them would be the same to anyone on here. You don't know me. You don't know who I am, what I donate to, who any of my family or friends are or why I do what I do in life and I'm in no position to explain myself to you, predominately because in your eagerness to display just how much more you care than everyone else you've completely missed the point of it in the first place. When I was younger every Remembrance Day I can remember always had a focus on WWI/II veterans. You'd usually see some of them at a memorial of some sort on the news. Obviously with it being currently the centenary of WWI there's been a bit more attention on commemorations which is understandable and is genuinely sombre given the ever decreasing number of veterans from then. Remembrance of mass-conscription wars like the World Wars I'm all for. Ordinary citizens who volunteered or were called to go and defend their country against threats in a situation not seen before or since, the social upheaval which still shapes the country to this day that resulted from them fighting and dying and recovering, they deserve to be thought of with veneration and given support when it is lacking. My main issue with the modern day displays of poppy vigilantism is the re-appropriation of it as a symbol for all armed services, anywhere, ever. People fighting in World Wars didn't have a choice. They were faced with situations incomprehensible and beyond any description of humanity at any other point in human history. The people who have since voluntarily joined the armed forces, well, no. They've done an extremely difficult, demanding and dangerous job ostensibly for my benefit, if indirectly. That doesn't mean I have to support them or the conflicts my government has sent them into. The entire point of the poppy appeal in the first place was to commemorate/support people who didn't have a choice but to fight against an oppressive, threatening force. Anyone who berates people for not supporting are troops as much as them would no doubt bring up the fact that people died or risked their lives to uphold your right to freedom of expression, blissfully unaware of the irony therein. I personally am not the most outwardly emotional sort of person anyway, but even if I was fully on board with supporting all of this stuff I would be utterly mortified to be involved in the sort of parades you see at Ibrox every year. Never mind that the fetishisation of the military appears to approach the levels you see in America (where in addition to sports teams regularly having Armed Forces Nights seeing the rappelling personnel and the tearful family reunions on-ice/court/field you have an actual advertising industry encouraging people to join up for much seedier reasons than you do here), it's inappropriate on virtually every level. Never mind that my own focus would be for those I've mentioned who don't have a choice, but the apparent shift from poignant remembrance to celebrating militarism doesn't sit right with me. It's inappropriate and I wouldn't be comfortable with it being done in my name or for my benefit. It somehow is even worse when you see it on a smaller, individual scale. Poppies on car grills, on lorries (I once saw a ghastly tattoo on a bus driver that as best I can remember/describe was effectively a fern leaf made up of silhouettes of soldiers gradually shifting into poppy flowers the further it went up the leaf) and in similar locations just reinforce the increasing sense that public remembrance has become a case of one-upmanship removed from any original intention of it as a symbol. Now, on the matter of FIFA and the assorted hand-wringing that's resulted, I can sort of see the angle for the Scotland/England game at least. Two distinct footballing nations but with a shared social history concerning their military and the public recognition thereof. I'm sure if England were playing, Say, The Germans Germany nobody would be kicking up this amount of fuss. I do fail to see what the issue people have with it is though. No extraneous political symbols on the strips. It's quite simple and quite understandable. The fact that nobody wailing at FIFA seems to have picked up on their judgement of the poppy as "political" puts the tin lid on pretty much everything I have to say about it, though.

I've never purchased a poppy and never will. I've never donated to a charity for veterans. I don't stop and 'remember' any folk who fought in wars. Get it up you

http://i.imgur.com/64F4vRP.gifv This may be the best gif I've ever seen, sadly it's a video so I can't embed.

This is our 7th season down here though and can anyone say we're any closer to getting out of this league? Yes you'd be lucky to replace Vaulks with as good a player but surely whoever's replacing his wages should be good enough to start each week and not a bench warmer. With Taiwo, Kerr and Henderson signed was there really the need for another central midfielder especially one like Rankin? Hippo apart we lack pace throughout the side so why not look for someone with a bit of trickery and pace. Christ I'd rather have the likes of Bobby Barr over Craigen or Taiwo wide right. To me none of Houstons signings have improved that area in the first team. Kidd is no better than Muirhead,Taiwo is preferred wide right to Craigen which says it all about him and Rankin can't get a game most weeks as Kerr is Houston's preferred starter. If these signings had been far better we perhaps wouldnt have noticed the void left by Vaulks and Alston but because they've been so poor we're missing them even more than perhaps we should.

Hearing stunning rumours that England and the British Army aren't the same thing.

Why didn't you go as someone from Scooby Doo? Hardly anyone would know who Bill Oddie is these days.

Or using his death to score points on the internet.

On PC, beside your user name on the bar at the top there is a down arrow thingy, click on this and select account settings then select signature.

Aye if you had a pet tiger, you'd obviously call it Tony. That was one of the best episodes in quite a while tbf.

Fcuk off, they might bring back Jum Spence as his replacement.

Very jealous. My first NHL game was Senators vs Rangers a few years back, hence my support for them. That last minute goal that won you the burger was an absolute beauty as well, not often you see an empty netter get on highlight reels.

You're good at that...

Rumours that we've 'recieved' £500k from Govan parish church circulating on social media, Celtic fans are investigating.