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The point I'm making is that we won. Rangers fans think they have by having their club winning promotion to the top flight, but there has been no meddling or tinkering with the leagues to fast track Rangers into the top flight. With all the GIFRUYs, the piss, wind and bluster from the Armies of Darkness believing they have beaten the G&Gs and the diddies, its actually integrity and fairplay that has won....a quiet victory. It makes no difference if they are up for the first time or back in the top tier depending on opinion, history will always remember Rangers going bust, the overspending under Charles Green, the mismanagement and how the club even turned on its own supporters, the fraud trial, I could go on. It makes no difference if they are up for the first time or back in the top tier or even if they beat our clubs four or five nil next season. They did all that to themselves no one else is to blame, probably the most embarrassing yet hilarious run of events to happen in Scottish sport and to such a despicable club that has had such a negative and self serving influence in Scottish football, such irony, such karma. Scottish football will never be the same again, no matter how much they will try to pretend otherwise.

4 years on and the Orcs are still hurting. Pleasing.

Good post min and you are right about the quiet victory point. I do take some satisfaction from the fact the shoe horning back into the top division was prevented. However, and this might be because I'm a miserable shit, I feel like the overall battle was lost. I really hoped we'd come out the other side of this saga with a realisation that Scottish football could be more than just the Glasgow pair. That actually football in this country has a lot to be proud of and to be talked up. The media in the last couple of weeks have proven, that with a bit of will behind it, you can polish a turd and promote it. The fawning over the old firm fixture in all Scottish media outlets proved this. I feel like for many in power or the media the last few years have simply been something they've had to tolerate, a hiatus from the 'real' stuff starting again for them, and they are probably trying to work out ways to make sure it never happens again. At no time do they seem to have lifted their head and seen that the whole country (ok fine, diddies) was re-engaged in Scottish football in a way that they simply weren't before. A quiet victory, yes, but for me a sad end.

I'd imagine a "Rate your pie" thread on Mumsnet might go slightly differently than the one on here.

"I can't believe it's not lymphoma!"

Slowly? The season hasn't even finished and we've got a load of players signed up. I'd actually say we're getting there pretty quickly.

My cat Suzie. She's 14 next month and came to us from the Cats Protection League. We should have taken another one to keep her company as I think she's a bit bored during the day. Wouldn't advise getting a kitten unless you've all day every day to play with it and train it. Suzie came to us fully ready to eat, sleep and shite in the right places (most of the time), to hell with going through that with a kitten.

I think I can solve this one. Remember the Golden Rule: Bennett is a genuine idiot with a fondness for lying, and no one should take anything he says remotely seriously.

Sandy Denny - It'll Take A Long Time

The Zombies : Time Of The Season

Bit shite of you outing Magee tbh.

That's Mike Ashley.He's your gaffer.

The pedestrianisation of Norwich City centre

Checking your balance at a cashpoint is phenomenal when that happens.

Really hoping Goodwillie doesn't score tonight.

Aofjays gets it wrong, again..... Anyway moving on. Despite my best wishes it seems that my optimism in Scottish fitba fans was sadly misplaced. Sell oot Saturday was pie in the sky.

So you thought it was started by up by a newspaper especially an OF championing newspaper, it has even less credibility now. You are aware of the saying 'one swallow doesn't make a summer' even if you believe the badly thought out SOS was a real attempt at a GIFRUY to the Rangers, its irrelevant, it was only one weekend out of 38, its like crying over a yellow card in a 90 minute match four years later, it doesn't matter anymore, get over it. The fact most clubs found their feet very quickly, some even winning trophies for the first time or for the first time in years while Rangers labored in the lower leagues with their fraudsters and spivs in charge, stumbling around losing to the likes of Stirling Albion or Forfar Athletic puts the stupid wee SOS into perspective.

If you've got room in your fridge for eggs, chocolate, fruit, vegetables, bread, etc, then you obviously haven't bought enough beer. That is what fridges were invented for.

Are you sure you weren't watching Absolutely with 3d glasses on?

Men against boys

I think that this may be a bit pessimistic. Most football fans outside of the two cheeks have seen that football is not reliant upon the old firm, no matter how much the MSM or the football authorities try to push that agenda. The shenanigans that the SFA/SPL tried to pull in collusion with Rangers showed just how deep the corruption in our game goes - not great, but at least it has made abundantly clear exactly who and what needs to be excised. Certainly, there will be nothing but derisive laughter if we are threatened with 'Armageddon' again. In a way, it's just like Scottish politics, where no matter how hard the press wail about how terrible Independence and the SNP are, the smoke screen has cleared for huge parts of the population and we're not falling for their pish anymore.

BRE, Joe & Talbot all sign new deals!

Hoping for Red again.

A ghostie shite.

Did someone say Keith Jackson? Ahhh why not Craig Whyte profile: The Scots billionaire on the brink of taking over the club he loves 00:00, 18 NOV 2010 UPDATED 19:01, 1 JUL 2012 BY KEITH JACKSON FINANCIAL whizzkid Craig Whyte stands on the brink of pulling off the biggest deal of his life - and finally bringing the curtain down on one of the longest-running sagas in Scottish football. 552SHARES Craig Whyte started playing the stock market at the age of 15. By the time he left school he had more than £20,000 in his bank account. Today, aged just 39, this financial whizzkid from Motherwell stands on the brink of pulling off the biggest deal of his life - and finally bringing the curtain down on one of the longest-running sagas in Scottish football. Record Sport understands self-made billionaire Whyte has entered into the final stages of negotiations to buy control of the club he loves from Sir David Murray. And he's still one year younger than captain Davie Weir. A deal worth around £30million is now believed to have reached such an advanced stage that sources say Whyte, a high-roller who splits his time between a home in London and the idyllic Castle Grant in Grantown-on-Spey, could even have the keys to Ibrox in time to fund a major refurbishment of Walter Smith's top-team squad in January. The news will delight Rangers supporters who have been fretting over the future of their club ever since Murray first slapped a For Sale sign on the front door of Edmiston Drive around three years ago. As the club's financial health deteriorated to such an extent the banks moved in to control the purse strings, a series of false dawns came and went. First, a consortium headed up by South African-based tycoon Dave King came to the fore only to fail to meet Murray's asking price. Then, in March this year, Londonbased property developer Andrew Ellis emerged as the frontrunner and was granted a period of exclusivity in order to get the deal done. But Ellis, now part of the consortium, did not have the financial clout to back up his bold promises and his bid collapsed, leaving Rangers firmly in the grip of the Lloyds Group. Exiled Glaswegian King was then talked up once more as the possible saviour but he was also engaged in a long-running battle with the tax man and while those issues remained unresolved, he too looked l ike an increasingly unlikely white knight for a club now engulfed by crisis. But yesterday, quite out of the blue, Record Sport learned a new man is at the table and that a deal to end Murray's 22-year reign is ready to be completed. And that man is a relative boy. By the age of 26, Whyte was already Scot land's youngest self-made millionaire. Now, 13 years on, and in charge of a vast business empire, his wealth is off the radar. Whyte is a venture capitalist who has made his millions from playing the markets - a skill he secret ly began honing in his third year at Glasgow's Kelvinside Academy. In one of his few interviews he revealed how he immediately regretted going to the private school - because he despised playing rugby. He said: "I hated the discipline of it. It was a rugby-only school, which I didn't play as I was interested in football.'' Whyte worked weekends for his dad's plant hire firm. And he saved up his wages to fund his habit of gambling on Stock Exchange. It is said that, by the time he left school, he had more cash in his bank than many of his teachers. At 19, he was in charge of his own hire plant. Now he owns his own castle - one of the most historic buildings in Scotland. And very soon he could be adding Rangers to his portfolio. It remains to be seen if Whyte's move to capture the club will f lush any other parties out of the woodwork because - despite their failure to strike a deal with Murray - King and his consortium have yet to throw in the towel on their own ambitions. They had put together a package worth around £18m but this was flatly rejected and Ellis drove the price up when he agreed to pay Murray more than £30m. The club's debt has been reduced by around £10m since then but the selling price remains the same. Now, quite clearly, Whyte believes he will be able to close the deal and the young gun must have said enough to impress Murray, who has stated all along that he will only sell the club to the right people - men with enough money to take the club forward. Who knows? Murray may even regard Whyte as something of a kindred spirit. After all, Murray was himself aged just 37 back in 1988 when he launched a takeover of the Ibrox club. It was the beginning of one of the most successful periods in Rangers' history but Murray's aggressive pursuit of European glory eventually saw him writing the kind of cheques that his club could simply not afford. Now Whyte is bringing his money to the table but it remains to be seen if he will adopt the same scatter-cash approach as the man who has owned the club for the past two decades. But if he brings in even half of the number of trophies Murray delivered then the fans are unlikely to be complaining. Edited to remove the click bait

My tech teacher seemed to have a policy of not handing out punnies, but instead humiliating folk by getting them to hug a big wooden box at the front of the class. One of my classmates had the misfortune of acting the goat at the start of a double period. Hugged that box for at least an hour, the immortal line from the teacher being "Gary Booooooth! Don't just hold that boax, hug it, love it! Love the boax" (read this in a deep, strong Fife accent). He also had a pride-of-place newspaper pin-up of an old league table with the Pars being top of the Premier Division. P1 W1 D0 L0.

Magna Carta - Seasons

Four Seasons - Rag Doll

BeastCorrect Beast Correct Correct Correct Congratulations you are only 33% Beast.

Once they get the last poor person out his house.

Victoria wood

I don't think the article says any such thing.It says that St Johnstone will spend more money. It says there might be some more money in the top flight. Will St Johnstone be better off in relation to the biggest clubs in their league though? Nope. They'll be worse off. Are St Johnstone more or less likely to win a cup and/or qualify for Europe than has recently been the case?

She probably worked for scale.

Rory Gallagher - Rag Mama Rag

Janis Joplin - Ball And Chain

Prince (RIP) - Just As Long As We're Together

I won but I'm not going. They should have halved the number of winners and let them bring 2 people.

Richard And Linda Thompson : Wall Of Death

I'm sure I've told this story before. We had a Registration/Maths/Computing teacher at our school who was a total Yewtree candidate. He would get up to go and stand at the door and watch the lassies walking past the door and the come away with shit like "it's ok to look, eh boys?" total fucking creep. Anyway, we were in registration one morning and my mate cocked his leg and farted. The fact that it was an absolute worldie and he was sitting on a wooden chair meant that it echoed round the whole class to the uncontrollable amusement of all of us. This beast teacher went fucking tonto and started threatening to have the offender suspended. Our first class after this was Computing, which unfortunately he taught as well. Once the class started he dragged myself and my mate (neither of us were the farter) outside and basically tried to get us to grass up the boy that did it. Neither of us were budging and increasingly we were trying not to burst out laughing which we were managing up until he lost the rag and squealed "Well it came from where you were sitting....UNLESS SOMEONE HAS A VENTRILOQUIST BOTTOM!!!" At this point the two of us completely lost it and descended into an uncontrollable laughing fit. He made us head off down to the Headmasters office, where we had to explain why we were there through tears of laughter. What made it even better was the headmaster basically told us to f**k off and stop wasting his time, which made Jimmy Saville upstairs even more raging when we trooped back into his class.

Paul Paton?

In a hotel which is right next to the Crucible. So far I've seen Davis, Parrott, Bingham and err.... Hazel Irvine.

One of the biggest urban myths going about Jack supporting Sevco. My dad works with his dad, they are a family of Aberdeen fans, always have been. For what it is worth, the rumour grew from him going to a Rangers semi final on a freebie ticket. I got a freebie to Peterhead v Rangers at Balmoor and went, does not make me a *** in the slightest, nor does it him.

Somecunt direct Shandon to the "Knockhill ticket selling at Superbike events etiquette" thread please.

Janey Godley

Hope this is DLC.