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  1. During the pandemic there has been no shortage of unedifying mewling from the older generation about ‘irresponsible kids’, so it’s no surprise to find boomers wailing about vaccine hesitancy from the younger generation. When the JVCI can’t make a convincing case that the benefits of vaccination for under 30s outweighs the potential risks, even when the risk of a dangerous adverse reaction to the vaccines is vanishingly small (1.1 cases per 100k in age group 20-29 suffering serious harm from vaccination (AZ) compared to 0.8 cases per 100k ICU admissions prevented by vaccines in the same age group, according to JVCI’s own data) then it’s crystal clear that there is very little compelling evidence to suggest that the under 30s need to be vaccinated for their own good. Indeed the evidence suggest the opposite - that vaccination is riskier for under 30s than contacting the virus, contrasting sharply with the clear benefits offered by vaccination to older cohorts. It’s probably fair to say that (notwithstanding their general incompetence) both the Scottish and English governments are fully aware of the negligible risks presented to the younger generation by the virus, and (whatever their pronouncements to the contrary suggest) there is an unspoken acceptance in government that the virus will circulate freely among the younger, healthier age groups, and that natural immunity by infection will play almost as significant a role as vaccination in ensuring that the under 30s acquire immunity. The contention that kids have some altruistic debt to their elders or moral obligation to get vaccinations they don’t really need for the benefit of the fully-vaccinated, who are currently enjoying maximal protection, is so deeply engrained in the popular mindset that it’s taken for granted, but it’s really just another instance of the ‘what can the younger generation do for us’ mantra that has become endemic since the start of the pandemic. Thinking back to the disgraceful Scottish government TV advertising campaign, where kids were being exhorted not to kill their grandparents, it’s not difficult to see how this view became mainstream. What can the younger generation do for us? Well apart from accepting the hugely diminished experience that now passes for an education over the last 18 months (with more to come), and seeing their job opportunities wither on the vine, while their social opportunities and leisure pursuits (live music, arts, hospitality, nightclubs, sports, dating etc.) are stigmatised and criminalised. All the stuff that older generations were able to enjoy to the full are the very things that we’ve demanded younger generations sacrifice to keep us old timers safe. I’ve got a 17-year old daughter who is going to Uni in September, and she’s taken it upon herself to get vaccinated, (by going to a drop-in centre, not because she’d received a blue letter - she hasn’t). I’m delighted that she chose to get vaccinated, but I’d have been just as supportive of her had she chosen not to. The pandemic has effectively ruined the last 18 months of her life, which is a much more significant proportion for her than it is for me, at a time when having a normal social life (meeting friends and prospective partners) is a crucial part of her development and mental well-being. I’m acutely aware of the sacrifices that she, her friends, and indeed all youngsters have made. It’s long past time for double-vaccinated old timers like myself to start letting the younger generations (to whom we are already hugely indebted) enjoy their lives once again - restriction free - without stigmatising them as reckless or irresponsible, and without threatening to crack down on them and their favoured pursuits at the first opportunity. There’s a disproportionate amount of stick being used to beat younger generations with, and a negligible amount carrot on offer in a dystopian new world where governmental control of businesses and draconian restrictions on civil liberties have become the new normal. It’s not the responsibility of the younger generations to protect the elderly any more: the vaccines are doing a perfectly good job of this, and (in conjunction with occasional boosters if needed) will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. Ultimately all the fuss about vaccine hesitancy among the young is simply masking an incontrovertible truth: Covid simply isn’t much of a threat to anyone that isn’t elderly and / or afflicted with multiple co-morbidities, and the apparatus of governmental control that has inhibited, controlled and restricted our lives since the start of the pandemic has represented a much greater threat to the welfare of the younger generation than the virus.
    62 points
  2. Because Leigh likes things to look older than they really are?
    59 points
  3. 42 points
  4. Where's the medical qualifications?
    42 points
  5. As we all knew, the suggestion that the Tories would introduce vaccine passports for nightclubs, concerts and sporting events in England was just a rouse to incentivise the younger generation to get vaccinated. And to the surprise of exactly no-one, Sturgeon and the Scottish government, ably backed by Patrick Harvie and his cronies, who are lodged so far up Sturgeon’s arse you’d need a proctologist to find them, took this at face value, and, confronted with the prospect of being seen to be less cautious than the ‘reckless Tories’, u-turned on their high-minded (and entirely accurate) pronouncements about the essential illiberalism and discriminatory nature of vaccine passports and simply passed the economic burden of incentivising vaccine take-up amongst the young squarely onto the business community, as usual. Making Scottish businesses carry the can for the failure of government policy is par for the course for this administration. No arbitrary and punitive restrictions on selected business sectors without compensation should be the mantra in a free society, but isn’t in Scotland, as Sturgeon has already characterised nightclubs, the events sector and the live music industry as ‘less essential’ than other sectors of the economy. Presumably the jobs of the hundreds of thousands of (mainly young) people employed by these sectors are ‘less essential’ too. In other words, ‘furlough is ending, we don’t have any more money, and we’re making you carry the can, so suck it up.’ Vaccine passports are simply another example of the stigmatisation of the young and their leisure pursuits as reckless and irresponsible; another example of a dismally incompetent government scapegoating and disproportionately punishing the younger generation, and the businesses that cater to them and overwhelmingly employ them. The advent of illiberalism; the casual curtailment of civil liberties; the arbitrary restriction and marginalisation of businesses; the relentless mission creep of the new authoritarianism; the seemingly endless perpetuation and normalisation of ‘emergency’ governmental powers, all emanating largely from the self-styled ‘progressive’ end of the Scottish political spectrum, seems to be the abiding residue of the pandemic. This is the deeply dystopian reality of Scotland’s ‘new normal’.
    31 points
  6. As opposed to a figurative one?
    31 points
  7. Can people please stop mentioning the two Caldwells in Norway?
    30 points
  8. 30 points
  9. Mum has be discharged from hospital after being 3 months in it. From needing an Ect , and eventually she didn't get it and is doing really well. From sipping out a cup and being in a wheelchair and now fully walking and not arching her back while walking. Just unreal feeling to have her home
    30 points
  10. He wasn't found until Sortmeout started this thread. Some would say that makes him a hero.
    27 points
  11. It's pretty obvious Scotland's big 5 are running things now. I'd politely suggest your Motherwells, your St Johnstones, your Rangers, your Celtics either get on board or get left behind.
    27 points
  12. It’s not that bad. They usually give you this sledgehammer, makes it really easy.
    27 points
  13. I was in a school speaking to a bunch of primary kids who were showing me how to spell when someone whispered the news in my ear.
    27 points
  14. "Have I got a coaching licence? I give out the licences!"
    27 points
  15. I mean this has clearly been done to death, blown out of proportion and positions entrenched along petty tribal lines but why on earth - in 2021 - should Ayr United be expected to sell and post physical tickets to customers of Partick Thistle in the first place? I'm sure our staff and volunteers have enough to do for Ayr United. Your game, your tickets, your money. Relying on somebody else's good will to sell to fans is embarrassing. You can't turn this on us.
    26 points
  16. COME ON THE SCOTLAND!!!
    26 points
  17. This has been terribly hard for me to post. Last week we had to put Roxy to sleep. It was very sudden, she developed a limp and after an x-ray it showed cancer had eaten away at her front leg and had spread throughout her body. It was so difficult as she still had all her faculties. We are all devastated. Such a wonderfully loyal family pet who loved every one of us. She will be sorely missed by all that knew her. She was just fuckin ace eh. Roxy 2011 - 2021.
    26 points
  18. Rangers fans discover that if they all band together as a group they can cause a serious change thorugh sheer weight of numbers. Do they use this power to... A. Force all those who tarnish their club with racist songs/comments to change their ways and help everyone move forwards? B. Force everyone whos criticising the racist element in their support to back down and never question it again? Answers on a fucking postage stamp pls. Lets never again pretend the "vast majority" of Rangers fans want this element out their club, the last few days have shown differently.
    25 points
  19. Hello all, Imagine anyone that's on social media over the last few weeks will have seen this, but it seemed worth flagging to the P&B audience who aren't there. FC United is a social movement of people from all across Scotland, who are united in a shared belief that each and every one of us has a role to play in preventing suicide. Enjoy this picture of Shaughan McGuigan saying "Hello!" to his place in the team. Part of this is a series of interviews with faces you'll recognise from Scottish football; Colin & Callum Hendry, Clare Shine & Laura Montgomery, and Paul McNeill & Aaron Connolly, sharing their experiences and difficulties with their own mental health, and their experience of suicide, there are clips on twitter, but the full videos can be watched here; https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCAPdmAnjbjKs1pA6w3FAKA They've also made the shirt from this campaign available for pre-order here; https://www.thefootballnation.co.uk/fc-united-shirt/ With all proceeds going to fund campaigns around this. It's something that you can hopefully take something from, either through the interviews, or the resources at unitedtopreventsuicide.org.uk, but it's worth at least a moment of your time.
    24 points
  20. Listen, the Rangers support should be thankful for us today. Gave them the chance to see a proper right back in action for the first time in a while.
    24 points
  21. Imagine being this angry/unhinged because you're no allowed to be racist anymore
    24 points
  22. You voted for Brexit, so you'll forgive us if we all file your opinion in the bin where it belongs.
    24 points
  23. The vet has given her the all clear. Just a stomach bug apparently. She's pretty much back to her normal self now.
    23 points
  24. I’m going to put this in the simplest possible terms, you’re a fucking moron if you don’t walk away right now.
    23 points
  25. To be published in early November. 720 pages (two hardback books, 360 pages each) of never-before-seen photos of old Scottish football grounds. Mostly 1940s to 80s. Every club in the country is covered. Three years in the making, An awful lot of searching through old negatives in newspaper and magazine archives. I've never enjoyed a project so much in my entire life.
    23 points
  26. "This little thread" The fucking disrespect.
    23 points
  27. Scot Gov’s absolute contempt for Scottish businesses has been evident throughout the pandemic. At every turn Scot Gov has made Scottish businesses bear the economic cost of their dogmatic fixation with enforcing significantly tighter (yet often completely arbitrary, contradictory and ineffective) restrictions (often unsubstantiated by anything resembling actual science, and too frequently unresponsive to the data cited as their justification) than the ‘reckless Tories’, just to ensure that no- one could possibly doubt that Nicola and the SNP ‘care more’ than Boris and Westminster. Scotland might have the highest Covid infection rates in the U.K., suggesting that our tougher restrictions have been largely ineffective, and the extra damage to our economy largely self-inflicted, but at least we’re the most conspicuously virtue-signalling Covid cesspit of Europe. Now that furlough is ending, and our southern counterparts have seemingly accepted that Covid is transitioning from pandemic to endemic status, Scot Gov’s continuing fixation with differentiating ourselves from England by rolling on needlessly tighter restrictions (e.g. Covid passports, which will punitively burden the already beleaguered nightclub, live music and events sectors, still struggling to recover after almost 18 months of closure; and now the Scottish travel sector, which has been at breaking point for ages, with barely a hint of the relaxation of restrictions that other sectors have enjoyed, seems set to be burdened with the continuance of onerous testing requirements for the fully vaccinated that are about to be jettisoned down south) is seemingly no longer the government’s financial responsibility. It won’t be the Scottish government that picks up the tab for the ongoing restrictions on business - it will be Scottish businesses, as our direct equivalents down south prosper by comparison. Not that Scot Gov ever really did pick up the tab for their draconian restrictions: three of my businesses - a nightclub, an events production company and a concert promotions company - remained closed throughout the bulk of the last 18 months due to government restrictions, but the last two picked up a paltry 20k each in total in government grants (excluding furlough), despite seeing their entire turnover decimated and substantial six figure annual contributions to the Exchequer wiped out. Even at the height of the pandemic and the restrictions, Scot Gov only subsidised a fraction of business losses and a selective number of businesses, often through competitive and hugely oversubscribed funds, allocating limited amounts of cash (often on ‘merit’ - which tended to mean the same snouts monopolising the same troughs, allocated by the same funding bodies, or prioritising support to firms that were most in danger of becoming insolvent, which might on the face of it seem reasonable, but is an essentially speculative method of supporting the economy - gambling on the businesses that are most likely to fail, while denying funding to prudently run businesses that were deemed able to carry the traumatic cost of the government’s restrictions entirely from their own painstakingly accumulated reserves). Scot Gov has since day one of the pandemic been fixated with levelling down - penalising and demoralising successful businesses and entrepreneurs; artificially propping up barely solvent and fly by night businesses and rewarding the usual suspects (with all the potential for fraud and rigging the system that entails). Scot has never, at any stage, shown the remotest interest in fairly and transparently distributing on an equitable basis the funds it has been allocated from Westminster for Covid business support (let alone dip into the Barnett Formula allocation / Independence campaign treasure trove). Hospitality businesses will never forget how strategic framework funding (the raison d’etre of which was to compensate businesses that were closed or otherwise adversely affected by government restrictions) was withdrawn well before punitive restrictions on businesses were lifted. Indeed strategic framework support was withdrawn from nightclubs long before they were even allowed to reopen, an utterly scandalous policy that has been compounded by the mandating of Covid passports for the sector. And now that furlough is ending, with all other funding channels long closed off, Scottish businesses are expected to pick up the tab for enforcing onerous vaccine passport entrance requirements when Scot Gov, in typically incompetent style, has barely introduced a functioning QR code system for the fully vaccinated, let alone an effective app. Business owners are tearing what’s left of their hair out in frustration. As usual there is absolutely no clarity to in terms of how this system will operate, or how we’re expected to enforce it. Scot Gov seems to think that business owners will suddenly get on board with enforcing a regulatory regime (that even the government don’t understand) which, if properly enforced, will drastically reduce their footfall and profit margins, all without any financial support or compensation whatsoever. Cloud fucking Cuckoo Land.. I’ve been active in the business community for over 30 years, and have extensive contacts and colleagues in many sectors of Scotland’s traumatised economy (including hairdressing, which you so blithely dismiss - my wife is a salon director, in a company that is about to lose a second outlet due to the financial effects of Covid). And it’s not just hairdressers, gym owners and nail salon operators that I know - we have a good friend in the travel industry who has been trying to keep her business afloat during uniquely challenging times, with little or no assistance from the Scottish government, and has recently had to give up the lease on her Edinburgh shop. I know many people throughout the hospitality, live music, events, arts and culture sectors (some of them are even quite bright - though clearly not Jason Leitch and Linda Bauld level intellects obviously) and the general feeling is that the Scottish government has failed them. These sectors have been scapegoated, penalised, punished, marginalised, under-funded and undermined by a Scottish government that is now viewed as not just laughably incompetent, not just ‘not business-friendly’, but as a clear and present danger to Scottish business. Alienating and undermining huge sectors of the Scottish business community seems to me to be a huge gamble on the part of the Scottish government. The Scottish economy is on life support, and the businesses and people that drive it and generate tax revenues are demoralised and angry. Given that Scotland’s economy is already hamstrung by a higher level of welfare dependency than most comparable European countries, I’d have thought stimulating and energising our moribund economy would be at the forefront of the Scottish government’s priorities as we emerge from the pandemic, but apparently not. It’ll be fascinating to see how the the SNP can cobble together a convincing economic case for independence from the remnants of our shattered economy…
    22 points
  28. Just a wee side note but I was told today that Hopkins resignation was basically just him spitting the dummy out and being raging about the reception he got from the fans the other night. Effectively told us to stick it if we’re that unhappy with him. Cheered me up a fair bit.
    22 points
  29. "A Tale of Two Cities" was first serialised in two local newspapers. It was The Bicester Times, It was The Worcester Times.
    22 points
  30. I honestly don’t think there is a major political party in Western Europe less likely to experience a backbench rebellion on any issue than the SNP. The Scottish Government could propose a cull of the first born and they’d vote for it.
    22 points
  31. I've resigned my membership of the SNP today. I recognise that the Scottish Government has to make tough decisions but the introduction of domestic vaccine passports is a step too far. It completely goes against my views in terms of civil liberties.
    22 points
  32. I find it more frustrating when it's Cash Only tbh. I have my card on me all the time, I rarely have cash on me though.
    22 points
  33. f**k off you absolute weirdo.
    22 points
  34. On the field, it’s easy to forget how good we have it just now because it’s been this way for a few seasons now. We play, IMO, the best football in the lower leagues and we turn it on most weeks. Even when we lose or draw we still have fantastic passages of play and make chances and pull the other team around and it’s so, so good to watch. Off the park I feel as though we can get much better. Our social media channels could be more engaging. We could do more to encourage fans who currently don’t go to games but have a vested interest in the club to start coming to a few home games. Same goes for those who currently come to a few home games, can they come along a few more times? What do we need to do to target them and incentivise it for them? Your social output is intrinsically linked to these matters. How are we trying to capture a new audience from the short attention span Tik Tok generation when our two videos a week are a 10 minute John McGlynn pre-match interview and a 10 minute highlights package. These things are great for me because I already have a great knowledge of the football club and it answers questions I want asked, but to a casual fan is that engaging? A quick glance at Motherwell’s twitter output shows you how’s it’s done. Relatable content to people who might not be as invested in the football club as the weirdos like us who post on this forum. Stuff like having your tickets on sale in plenty time seems like such a straight forward, simple thing but it’s not been done in the very recent past. Same goes with actually announcing the walk up prices. Just not announcing it isn’t an option. Tell folk why it’s that price and justify it. Don’t let cars park on the concourse when fans are exiting the stadium. Communicate to the supporters when things go wrong. I don’t want to put the boot in to the club, that’s not what this is about, it’s about wanting us to take the next step in our development and start to grow as a club, because if we have ambitions of being in the Premiership, which we very obviously do, then we need that level of investment in infrastructure that’s been afforded to the playing side of the club also distributed to our non-playing side.
    22 points
  35. I wouldn't be bringing up time spent "dead" if I was Rangers.
    21 points
  36. 21 points
  37. Can’t believe you’ve got a phd. You’ve never once mentioned it on here!
    21 points
  38. Sorry, but you’re way off the mark here, Santan was a complete loser who will be missed by precisely no one.
    21 points
  39. Apparently what happened next was swatting aside a dreadful Morton team. Lesson: best not to gloat about someone losing away when you're due to play them next week and your own team is an absolute shambles.
    21 points
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