He's a complete fanny, more so for forever playing the "race card". Paul, you tit, you haven't been given a job in the Premiership because you are black, it's because you are fucking shit at the job.
Today's result only goes to prove that, with you sitting well and truly stuck in the relegation zone.
Latino Lover
Nov 23 2008, 14:32
QUOTE (Ric @ Nov 23 2008, 14:29)

He's a complete fanny, more so for forever playing the "race card". Paul, you tit, you haven't been given a job in the Premiership because you are black, it's because you are fucking shit at the job.
Today's result only goes to prove that, with you sitting well and truly stuck in the relegation zone.
I agree he's a tit and he doesn't even seem popular with former clubs however it is only half time.
uberman
Nov 23 2008, 14:35
QUOTE (Ric @ Nov 23 2008, 14:29)

He's a complete fanny, more so for forever playing the "race card". Paul, you tit, you haven't been given a job in the Premiership because you are black, it's because you are fucking shit at the job.
Today's result only goes to prove that, with you sitting well and truly stuck in the relegation zone.
He was given the Blackburn job because he's shit?
KingfaetheSooth
Nov 23 2008, 14:37
He was a c**t AFAIWC as soon as he too the Mk Dongs job.
QUOTE (uberman @ Nov 23 2008, 14:35)

He was given the Blackburn job because he's shit?

He got the job because like a child, he cried and cried, until he was given one, claiming it was racist not to have black managers in the English Premiership. So someone took a chance, and by God will the Blackburn BoD be regretting listening to his emotional blackmail (obviously no pun intended there).
raithfortheleague
Nov 23 2008, 14:40
QUOTE (uberman @ Nov 23 2008, 14:35)

He was given the Blackburn job because he's shit?

obviously
QUOTE (uberman @ Nov 23 2008, 14:35)

He was given the Blackburn job because he's shit?

QUOTE (raithfortheleague @ Nov 23 2008, 14:40)

obviously

Perhaps my point wasn't clear enough, Ince was sniffing around Premiership jobs for a while before getting the Blackburn job, and was happy to bleat to the press that he didn't get them because he was black.
uberman
Nov 23 2008, 14:47
I was unaware of that. I thought he got the Blackburn job because he done well with MK Dons.
buddie06smfc
Nov 23 2008, 14:55
He will take them down.
He is a pish manager.
He paid over £1M for a bloody MK Dons players.
QUOTE (uberman @ Nov 23 2008, 14:47)

I was unaware of that. I thought he got the Blackburn job because he done well with MK Dons.
So you don't think it's odd that a manager with very little managerial experience and managing a team in the 3rd tier of English football was promoted to such a job?
Michael W
Nov 23 2008, 15:01
He wasn't very good at Watford either.
uberman
Nov 23 2008, 15:02
QUOTE (Ric @ Nov 23 2008, 14:58)

So you don't think it's odd that a manager with very little managerial experience and managing a team in the 3rd tier of English football was promoted to such a job?
No I don't. I'm quite sure other managers have worked their way up the leagues with decent performances at lower league teams. Can you provide any links of Ince playing the race card or moaning about not getting a job.
The Phoenix
Nov 23 2008, 15:04
QUOTE (Ric @ Nov 23 2008, 14:29)

Today's result only goes to prove that
I thought I was watching a live feed.
What was the final score?
uberman
Nov 23 2008, 15:05
QUOTE (The Phoenix @ Nov 23 2008, 15:04)

I thought I was watching a live feed.
What was the final score?

I was wondering about that as well. If Blackburn come back and win or even draw I will be holding Ric responsible for fucking up one of my bets.
Deeboy
Nov 23 2008, 15:07
You only hate Paul Ince because he's black

I also seem to remember reading he claimed the EPL boards were "racist" and that was why he wasn't getting a chance.
craigkillie
Nov 23 2008, 17:51
QUOTE (Ric @ Nov 23 2008, 14:58)

So you don't think it's odd that a manager with very little managerial experience and managing a team in the 3rd tier of English football was promoted to such a job?
4th tier.
He's a tube. His comments about Celtic the other week were typical of his lack of class. He appears to have no tactical nous, and while he appears to have good motivational skills, that is not enough at the top level. Their only tactic seems to be a long ball to Santa Cruz, which is a waste of his talent.
Blackburn finished 7th last season under Mark Hughes, and the only players they lost in the summer were Friedel and Bentley, and I think it might have been Ince's choice to get rid of Friedel. This season they look like they'll be battling relegation, and if Santa Cruz gets annoyed and leaves in January then they will have even less chance of a successful outcome.
seamus
Nov 23 2008, 18:11
Has their ever been a good black manager and if not are there a number of reasons for this?
we are perth
Nov 23 2008, 18:31
Paul Ince is a Grade A w****r.
A great story from Fergies book was when he was at Man U he stuck a huge post it on his locker with 'THE GUVNOR' on it.
Ferguson saw this and proceeded to rip it down in front of him and all the other players along with the comment - 'I'm the fuckin Guvnor!'
Haha Paul Ince Guvnor my arse. He will take Blackburn down.
port-ton
Nov 23 2008, 19:12
QUOTE (seamus @ Nov 23 2008, 18:11)

Has their ever been a good black manager and if not are there a number of reasons for this?

John Barnes has turned Jamaica into an international force to be reckoned with, well until they play Caley Thistle.
Who cares if there isn't any good black managers, a white man will never win the 100m again, a white man will struggle a lot harder to get into an american football or basketball team.
Black men can use the bodies and athleticism they were given, and white men can use their brains. thats the natural order of things.
* i must let you understand that this isn't the views of myself but the views of pieandbovril.com.
seamus
Nov 23 2008, 19:18
QUOTE (port-ton @ Nov 23 2008, 19:12)

John Barnes has turned Jamaica into an international force to be reckoned with, well until they play Caley Thistle.
Who cares if there isn't any good black managers, a white man will never win the 100m again, a white man will struggle a lot harder to get into an american football or basketball team.
Black men can use the bodies and athleticism they were given, and white men can use their brains. thats the natural order of things.
* i must let you understand that this isn't the views of myself but the views of pieandbovril.com.
Why do black men never win swimming competitions?
Are you saying that White men are more clever than black men, is that the reason why they are not in football management?
I wonder how many black men have been managers in britain over the last 50 years?
cowshedphil
Nov 23 2008, 19:25
QUOTE (KingfaetheSooth @ Nov 23 2008, 14:37)

He was a c**t AFAIWC as soon as he too the Mk Dongs job.

Im sure with all his medals he really gives a f**k about what you all think, he must be especially worried about some non league c***s opinion of him
flyingscot
Nov 23 2008, 20:02
Not really sure Ince got the job because of the race card, but he did play it and it is a huge jump from League 2. He did do well at MK, however so is Di Matteo now. Can't be worse than some of the managers in the Championship however- Alan Pardew for example...
Donnelly
Nov 23 2008, 20:34
Did he not say something about Barnes sacking from Celtic was due to Barnes being black?
Nothing to do with him being shit, then.
Angela
Nov 23 2008, 20:47
QUOTE (uberman @ Nov 23 2008, 14:35)

He was given the Blackburn job because he's shit?

Yeah and so was Souness. It is club policy to find the sh*test manager around
Jim Pansy
Nov 23 2008, 21:10
Is anybody actually going to quote Ince "playing the race card", or are they just going to continue attacking the guy on the basis of personal opinion? For what it's worth, James Richardson regards Paul Ince as the most open, friendly and helpful player he ever interviewed on Football Italia.
SavotheGreat
Nov 23 2008, 21:18
QUOTE (port-ton @ Nov 23 2008, 19:12)

Black men can use the bodies and athleticism they were given, and white men can use their brains. thats the natural order of things.
I don't know where to begin...
Latino Lover
Nov 23 2008, 21:23
Champions league winner Frank Rijkaard is black, other than that Tigana and Gullit have been decent in patches however there havn't been that many black managers to judge.
QUOTE (Jim Pansy @ Nov 23 2008, 21:10)

Is anybody actually going to quote Ince "playing the race card", or are they just going to continue attacking the guy on the basis of personal opinion?
Are you claiming that he did not?
Obviously it all comes down to how you interpret the "playing the race card" phrase. For me he used the fact that he was black primarility to highlight
his situation, rather than to progress the profile of black managers in general.
Personally I don't care if he's black, it's not something that should matter. We have excellent (as well as poor) black players and coaches, there is no reason not to have black managers too. This thread is not a comment on that though, it's a comment on Ince being a w**k.
The Naitch
Nov 23 2008, 21:32
Is it too late to join the 'I hate Paul Ince' bandwagon?
Jim Pansy
Nov 23 2008, 22:17
QUOTE (Ric @ Nov 23 2008, 21:23)

Are you claiming that he did not?
Obviously it all comes down to how you interpret the "playing the race card" phrase. For me he used the fact that he was black primarility to highlight his situation, rather than to progress the profile of black managers in general.
Personally I don't care if he's black, it's not something that should matter. We have excellent (as well as poor) black players and coaches, there is no reason not to have black managers too. This thread is not a comment on that though, it's a comment on Ince being a w**k.
I might be being blind, but what quote is it that you are referring to?
QUOTE (Jim Pansy @ Nov 23 2008, 22:17)

I might be being blind, but what quote is it that you are referring to?
It's not one particular quote, as he has commented on it in several pieces, but this is an example..
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2007/ja...wsstory.sport11QUOTE (The Naitch @ Nov 23 2008, 21:32)

Is it too late to join the 'I hate Paul Ince' bandwagon? smile.gif
No, not at all. The more the merrier.
All aboard... next stop the Championship in Blackburn.
port-ton
Nov 23 2008, 23:17
QUOTE (SavotheGreat @ Nov 23 2008, 21:18)

I don't know where to begin...

Probably by using the natural athleticism you were given at birth.
djchapsticks
Nov 23 2008, 23:24
QUOTE (Donnelly @ Nov 23 2008, 20:34)

Did he not say something about Barnes sacking from Celtic was due to Barnes being black?
Nothing to do with him being shit, then.
Wasn't it more along the lines of Barnes saying he's applied for dozens of English jobs since being at Celtic and has been unceremoniously told to GTF by every single one and he hinted at the fact this has happened is because of his skin colour?
Nothing to do with making and absolute c
unt of a two horse race.
craigkillie
Nov 23 2008, 23:37
QUOTE (Jim Pansy @ Nov 23 2008, 21:10)

Is anybody actually going to quote Ince "playing the race card", or are they just going to continue attacking the guy on the basis of personal opinion?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...39;-racism.htmlQUOTE
"It is strange there are no black managers in the Premiership when you think how many good black players there have been. We seem to have our heads stuck in the sand."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2007/ja...wsstory.sport11QUOTE
Most chairmen [of English clubs] are 65 or 75, so maybe it's a generational thing. Maybe black managers will have more of a chance with foreign owners coming into the game, people who don't really see this as an issue. No one ever talked about the likes of Keith Alexander and Leroy Rosenior [when jobs became available]. Keith did extremely well at Lincoln, got them into the play-offs three times, but no one's willing to give them a chance to go higher. I can't understand why not."Maybe I'm the one now to take it on and be that first Premiership manager. The Wolves job would have been ideal. The fans wanted me, the players wanted me, everyone wanted me but for some apparent reason I didn't get it.
Lando Griffin
Nov 24 2008, 02:17
Excellent thread. I hate him, always have, always will.
1320Lichtie
Nov 24 2008, 09:23
Paul Ince = w**k.
Jeff Venom
Nov 24 2008, 13:25
The guy could have bright green skin with orange spots all over him, he'd still be a total dick pump
houston_bud
Nov 24 2008, 21:43
QUOTE
."Maybe I'm the one now to take it on and be that first Premiership manager."
is he implying that he is the first black premiership manager? did he forget about gullit and tigana?
shameless
Nov 24 2008, 22:46
Has not really done anything to merit a Premiership Managers job, did decent job at MK Dons, but as has already been said now Di Matteo is.
My favorite to be the next manager sacked from the Premier League this year, Blackburn have to act soon, or will be facing Championship Football Next Season
MC Pee Pants
Nov 24 2008, 22:57
QUOTE (SavotheGreat @ Nov 23 2008, 21:18)

I don't know where to begin...

he'll be measuring the craniums next.
morrison
Nov 25 2008, 00:01
QUOTE (houston_bud @ Nov 24 2008, 21:43)

is he implying that he is the first black premiership manager? did he forget about gullit and tigana?
I think he was generally complaining about black
English managers not getting a chance. If you add enough stipulations, you could be the first to do anything you put your mind to.
Convenor
Nov 25 2008, 00:46
QUOTE (shameless @ Nov 24 2008, 22:46)

My favorite to be the next manager sacked from the Premier League this year, Blackburn have to act soon, or will be facing Championship Football Next Season
The problem with that is now they have a black manager, if Ince is not given more than the usual amount of time to settle in, there will no doubt be cries of racism or unfair treatment when we all know that Ince is a rotten manager at Premiership level.
ClydeNewcomer
Nov 25 2008, 13:17
QUOTE (Ric @ Nov 23 2008, 14:29)

He's a complete fanny, more so for forever playing the "race card". Paul, you tit, you haven't been given a job in the Premiership because you are black, it's because you are fucking shit at the job.
Today's result only goes to prove that, with you sitting well and truly stuck in the relegation zone.
OOOOHHHHHH thats racist
Michael W
Nov 25 2008, 15:25
I await Ince's racial discrimination case when he's eventually sacked. He's fucking useless.
pub car king
Nov 25 2008, 18:51
i liked his combo of bench jacket grey slacks and the retro west ham era tasche he was sporting on sunday "guv nor" my arse
Waspie
Nov 25 2008, 19:02
Good thread, Ince is a w*nker.
iron mike python
Nov 26 2008, 11:07
QUOTE (Jim Pansy @ Nov 23 2008, 21:10)

Is anybody actually going to quote Ince "playing the race card", or are they just going to continue attacking the guy on the basis of personal opinion? For what it's worth, James Richardson regards Paul Ince as the most open, friendly and helpful player he ever interviewed on Football Italia.
Lol Maybe because he was the only one that spoke English when over there. Anyways I agree there are managers who have won the square root of f**k all in the 'ship but they don't have a thread dedicated to them. At least Ince has achieved something in his short managerial career.
1993staggie
Nov 26 2008, 19:30
I hate this guy so much, am a Blackburn Fan and he has managed to put a team that finshed in a high position last year, and now with him in charge of basically the same team has put them down to relegation. No wander you never good a job earlier. you tit
* bump *
If only to laugh at them losing 3-2 to Pompy.
How many is that they've lost in a row? 8? 9? 10?
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