Looking in from the outside it looks like Gus's coat could be on a shaky nail. All his signings with the notable exception of Brady have flopped, his negative tactics have blunted the Buddies cutting edge and crowds are plummeting.

Can the St Mirren board afford to take the chance that Gus will turn it all around when they move to their new home? Will they risk this opportunity to build momentum through loyalty to the man that got them there. What would the implications be if St mirren took the drop?

Which is why you have called that massively wrong.

However, being wrong is such a common experience with you, I imagine you have difficulty telling the difference.

HTH

We will be picking upplenty of points in the weeks to come. 15 games we have played so far and we have played the oldfirm four times, which is a bit pish. Just the way things have worked out.

Was quite happy with Dargo and Wyness yesterday, Dorman also started to look like a footballer again for the first time this season.

We will finish somewhere around mid table just like Killie.

I haven't called anything, I've only asked the question. Thanks for your help anyway.

So I should vote "Yes, Gus is under no pressure" then?

Have you been smoking a lot of pot? As your short term memory is shot..


Now tell me, how is that not putting forward an opinion?

You've also missed out the most common option:

"He won't be unless we are relegated this season"

But getting a valid result from this is obviously not the point is it?

No that was a premise, now stop deflecting and start answering the question.

Would you like me to add it to the poll, I could if you like?

Er, I did, you just didn't include the option in the vote, so I had to vote null.

No. He is definitely under pressure.

Can you not use your Omnipotent modding powers to re-call your vote, I'll add your preferred option and then you can vote for it. That way we can get a realistic view of the St Mirren supports mindset.

What should I vote then, I wouldn't want to get this massively wrong?

Yes, quite right, because obviously you've restricted this vote to only St.Mirren fans..


Fail.

StMirren will never sack MacPherson purely because they couldnt get anyone better.

I couldn't find an option on the poll to do that, is there one? Would stuart get to vote?

What about Davie Irons or Billy Reid?

You are right, mind you if we were stuck we could always scrape the barrel and find a manager in charge of a backwater African nation.

Oh I'd forgot about Bobby Wlliamson. Would you like him?

First Divison is their level. I will dance with the Captain at Broadwood next season.

Now, now. No need for that

What makes you think you won't be in the 2nd division next season?

Good one, Livingston going bust will save us. Dont worry, we will be here for you next season. Shocked Gus has lasted so long.

Dundee Utd away
Hibs home
Hearts home
Aberdeen away
Rangers away
Celtic Home

that's our last 6 games & it's as tough a fixture list as you're likely to get IMO,our next game is United at home & we'll probably lose that too.

after that the next 5 are games that we should be looking to get a fair few points from.

You are right, saving us from relegation to the 2nd, winning the 1st, winning the Challenge Cup then securing our position in the SPL, with us improving each and every year. All done with a lesser budget than all our competitors.


Time for him to go. I would much prefer my club to struggle at the bottom of the 1st with no money..



The sort of turn around that Gus has overseen in the last 5 or 6 years is the sort of thing Clyde fans dream of.

i love gus with all of my heart

How do you work that out? mostly done with a lesser budget I could accept but All done I doubt it

Anyway I doubt he is under any more pressure than the other 11 managers in the SPL but I would love Maurice Malpas to get the job when Gus moves on.

What would St. Mirren fans say was a realistic target / achievable aim for a club of your size and stature? Is Gus meeting your expectations or do you expect a wee bit more?

For clubs like St Mirren, Falkirk, Inverness etc. a realistic target is 9th or 10th in the SPL. Anything above that is a bonus.

If I was a Falkirk fan I'd be disappointed if we were aiming for 9th or 10th in the league. Considering the quality of players that were brought in and the ones that were already there I'd suggest you should be aiming a wee bit higher.

It's kind of irrelevant what players we bring in (unless by some folly we decided to foolishly overspend). The fact is we definitely have a smaller wage budget than Rangers, Celtic, Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen and Dundee United, and I believe it's also smaller than the wage structure at Motherwell and Kilmarnock.

The only teams I reckon we'll have a higher wage budget are Caley, St Mirren and Hamilton, and as a result, 9th or 10th place is what we're aiming for. Anything else would be a welcome bonus.

You don't think that better quality and higher expectations go hand in hand?

You are becoming as obsessed with us as that champions_p***k(don't know his full name so improvised ) guy.

I watched the second half of the game yesterday in the Elizabethan and I thought St Mirren were (whisper it) not bad. They played neat football and had a few chances, but in the end they lacked a bit of spark ie Samaras' assist for Nakamura's goal. That's going to happen at that level. More concerningly perhaps, the defence was caught out badly for all three goals - the entire back line stopped at Wilson's cross, Miranda was flat-footed when marking Nakamura and the third one seemed a little incompetent in general.
What I will say is that consistent performances like that would surely leave St Mirren in no danger of relegation. Remains to be seen if they can do so.
FWIW I wouldn't be all that bothered about relegation. None of the 1st division sides are anywhere near a finished article yet and if St Mirren were to keep hold of their team and try and pick the confidence up, they'd be straight back up. McAusland looks to be a promising CB with more games under his belt.
I'd like Gus to be replaced by a Dream Team of Maurice Malpas, assisted by Tom Hendrie and John McVeigh, with Stuart Baxter as Director of Football. They'd put St Mirren back on the straight and narrow.

The quality we have been able to bring in directly relates to our wage budget, which is one of the smallest in the division.

WTF has me discussing the expectations of Falkirk fans got to do with St Mirren?

I have been a critic of Gus when some dour football was attached to a lack of goals.

Gus has come out fighting this season.
We are playing much better football to the eye. Goals are still not coming often enough to keep us out of the danger zone.
However I can cleary see it is being worked on and I’m confident given the chance, Dargo and Wyness look to be the right partnership.

So Gus now has my full support.
I have never said he should be sacked but at the end of last season I wrote he should be given till this Christmas before being judged.
Gus is heading in the right direction and given the success he has brought to the Saints I’m happy to see him stay.


If Gus was to go ether forced or by signing for another club
( Killie when JJ goes ) I would like to see Billy Davis brought to Saints.
He still lives in Paisley and has feelings for the club.

I don't understand why you keep bringing up wages, you finished seventh last year, you brought in better players, shouldn't you be looking to improve? The fact that you've managed to strengthen while staying within your budget does you great credit but should be irrelevant in your expectations.

You don't understand why a club's wage budget should be relevant in how successful they are?

I agree but I think he has bigger fish to fry.
He will have a bigger club sniffing around him anyway.
But I agree that it would be great to see him at Saints.
Also, Steve Clarke but I doubt we have the money to afford either of them.

Now that was what I was looking for when I started this poll. An honest appraisal of St Mirren and the direction they are taking and whether you still backed Gus now things are getting tighter at the bottom.

I understand that it can have an impact but there are other factors that have a more significant impact, spending your budget wisely for instance. Did every team that finished below you have a smaller budget?

If we dont pick up many points between now and xmas then he will be under pressure. I include the Utd game in that as they have stuttered a wew bit recently, but a point on Saturday would be a decent result.

You can say we had a tough run of fixtures, but to pick up 1 point from the Hearts and Hibs games was poor IMO. Both teams have been poor this season (even by the admission of some of their fans on here) so i fell we shoudl have at least pick up 4 here.

He wont get sacked anytime before the stadium move. If he goes it will be the end of the season if we have been involved in and hopefully survived a relegation battle, which looks likely. With Dargo, Wyness and Dorman looking good yesterday hopefully we may be turing the corner, but we have been here before this season.

As for the names on the relpacement lists, no thanks to any of them. I think people under estimate our structure and pulling power now. New Staduim, training facilites opeing next summer. We can aim an wee bit higher than that list.

Then again, all the signings he made basically saved us from relegation, got us promoted, kept us up etc. I'm happy with quite a lot of his signings, the most recent ones being Steven Robb and Jack Ross. Also bringing in players like Haining, Howard and Mason the year before strengthened us as well. He has made plenty of dodgy decisions in tactics and signing players, but they do seem to work out. He's done well, and he can still improve us. Some fans put the pressure on him way too quickly.

Who do you think St Mirren should be aiming for because I struggled to think of anyone that was better than you already had?

As someone mentioned above, Billy Davies. His reputation is in tatters down south so would eb a good chance to re build his name again, just like Mark McGee has done at Motherwell and Davies he is living in Paisley again.

As you say though after that I do struggle to think of names and worry if the situation did arrise that the club would go down the route of young manager, 1st job again.

Psssst, there are a few players at St Mirren I rate and I only put that in to get an initial reaction and stir up some debate. I was fed up reading about which team has was the biggest bigot and thought talking football would make a pleasant change. Don't tell anyone though or they might see through my cunning plan

Okay Okay

But still, I was debating, isn't that what you wanted?

OK debate away.

It should also be added that it is expected Stuart Gilmour will step down as chairman and Gordon Scott a very successful business man in his own right take over the leading role, leading the club into a new era. I can think of no one better so I am happy if this goes through.


Stuart Gilmour has done an amazing job with Saints. He is Mr St Mirren as far as I’m concerned. Here is a man who took over a sinking ship. Has guided the club from closing down to debt free, delivered a new stadium. This week the new training complex was given planning permission and will open next September.
Installed a player as manager who has got us in the SPL.

It’s a remarkable story given he is not a millionaire, he is just one of us. A die hard Saints fan.
For me he is a St Mirren legend and should I bump into him at hospitality I will address him as Mr St Mirren not Mr Gilmour

Mr Gilmour did not even pay for the majority share holding. It was a present to a man who could be trusted to run the club in a proper manner. I know this because my best mate is related to him

How will you communicate with your tongue lodged firmly in Gilmour's rectum? Placards?