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nelsjfc
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/g...ers/7718285.stm

Seems unlikely to come off, even if it is true. However would be a superb bit of business in the short term. Plus it would let us play Craig in his natural position
Livi_Lad
Who?
Jim Pansy
QUOTE (nelsjfc @ Nov 9 2008, 15:43) *
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/g...ers/7718285.stm

Seems unlikely to come off, even if it is true. However would be a superb bit of business in the short term. Plus it would let us play Craig in his natural position



He looked really, really good two or three years ago before the injuries. I had heard he was done though. Perhaps one of the Rangers fans will confirm.
nelsjfc
QUOTE (Livi_Lad @ Nov 9 2008, 16:26) *
Who?



Left-back at Rangers who just came back from a serious injury, but is behind papic(i think?) in the pecking order at the moment.
Sao Paulo
Clyde launched a similarly audacious bid to capture him on loan under Graham Roberts as I remember. Along with Ross McCormack and another Ibrox youngster, Burke perhaps?

Cracking player. If he was fit and getting regular action for Rangers he would be on the peripheries of the Scotland squad no doubt. Ear marked, certainly, to compete in future for the left back spot.

Well above the first division in terms of ability.
Reynard
QUOTE (Sao Paulo @ Nov 9 2008, 16:42) *
Clyde launched a similarly audacious bid to capture him on loan under Graham Roberts as I remember. Along with Ross McCormack and another Ibrox youngster, Burke perhaps?

Cracking player. If he was fit and getting regular action for Rangers he would be on the peripheries of the Scotland squad no doubt. Ear marked, certainly, to compete in future for the left back spot.

Well above the first division in terms of ability.


That was all before he got crocked though. Now he is finished at the top level. Or certainly at the level he was earmarked for.
Sao Paulo
QUOTE (Reynard @ Nov 9 2008, 16:54) *
That was all before he got crocked though. Now he is finished at the top level. Or certainly at the level he was earmarked for.

Surely that remains to be seen?
chunky jag
He played against us last season in one or both of the Scottish cup games, looks a good player. Looked excellent prospect before he got injured, hope he can get back to his best because we've no other real replacements for Naysmith for Scotland.

Can't see him going to play in the first division though.
PTFC27
QUOTE (chunky jag @ Nov 9 2008, 17:04) *
He played against us last season in one or both of the Scottish cup games, looks a good player. Looked excellent prospect before he got injured, hope he can get back to his best because we've no other real replacements for Naysmith for Scotland.

Can't see him going to play in the first division though.



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SavotheGreat
QUOTE (chunky jag @ Nov 9 2008, 17:04) *
Can't see him going to play in the first division though.


That's what they said about Jason Scotland.
Exuberant
QUOTE (PTFC27 @ Nov 9 2008, 17:21) *
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Bless the lad, but if he gets anywhere near the Scotland B squad you'll know there's been a pandemic of typhoid.
Deeboy
If he's anywhere near the level he was before the injuries, it would be a signing of magnitude. I seem to remember in the gossip columns though that Watty had told him he was free to leave.

Hopefully he gets back to the level he was at, at either StJohnstone or Rangers because he was a shoe in for the Scotland left back slot.
nelsjfc
QUOTE (SavotheGreat @ Nov 9 2008, 17:22) *
They said that about Jason Scotland.


True indeed. It does seem unlikely however.

I suppose in one way it would suit rangers as well; they only lose him for 2 months and he gets back up to match speed. It would be great to have a decent, if not better than decent, natural left back at Mcdiarmid though.
Reynard
QUOTE (Sao Paulo @ Nov 9 2008, 16:58) *
Surely that remains to be seen?



Yep it does. I'm just passing on vicious rumour that's all. He won't go to the first division though, that's certain.
SavotheGreat
QUOTE (Reynard @ Nov 9 2008, 18:32) *
that's certain.


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He told you did he?
Muggy
QUOTE (SavotheGreat @ Nov 9 2008, 17:22) *
That's what they said about Jason Scotland.



Work permit.

WendyWho?
QUOTE (SavotheGreat @ Nov 9 2008, 19:42) *
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He told you did he?

Since I doubt that's the case, it must just be a pure nugget of essential, A Priori knowledge that Reynard plucked fully formed from our collective consciousness in a moment where he was so in tune with nature he transcended his phsyical being and actually became, for the briefest of moments, the concept of "truth".

Either that or it's merely speculation on his part.
nelsjfc
QUOTE (Muggy @ Nov 9 2008, 18:49) *
Work permit.


Yes, but its fair to say Jason could have easily gone down south or abroad and played a higher level before he decided to come to us.

Im not saying this will happen, but given its only for two months, its unlikely but not completely impossible he would come to saints.
Dr. Name
Wasnt he going to a championship team on loan?
nelsjfc
QUOTE (Dr. Name @ Nov 9 2008, 19:06) *
Wasnt he going to a championship team on loan?



Would he be able to outside the transfer window? He would be able to move in Scotland on "emergency loan" hence the deal would only be two months. Or has my legal knowledge failed me?!
Silver Blue
QUOTE (nelsjfc @ Nov 9 2008, 18:59) *
Yes, but its fair to say Jason could have easily gone down south or abroad and played a higher level before he decided to come to us.

Im not saying this will happen, but given its only for two months, its unlikely but not completely impossible he would come to saints.


Hopefully he will become a Saint even if just for a limited time. Wouldn't be the first time a Rangers player has come down ro Div 1. McGregor's spell at Saints kept us up that year and Charlie Adams time in Paisley helped get St Mirren promoted.

A two month loan deal till the New Year would hopefully get us the gap from the rest to make it a relaxing early 2009 for Del's boys.
Nizzy
QUOTE (Silver Blue @ Nov 9 2008, 19:32) *
Hopefully he will become a Saint even if just for a limited time. Wouldn't be the first time a Rangers player has come down ro Div 1. McGregor's spell at Saints kept us up that year and Charlie Adams time slumming it in Skunksville helped get St Mirren promoted.

It's a bit different in Smith's case. He was an established first-team player whose career's been hampered by injury. Doesn't mean he won't go on loan to Saints, though.
Kirky_Clyde
Would be an excellent bit of business if Saints managed to pull this one off.
jimmydfc1893
QUOTE (nelsjfc @ Nov 9 2008, 15:43) *
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/g...ers/7718285.stm

Seems unlikely to come off, even if it is true. However would be a superb bit of business in the short term. Plus it would let us play Craig in his natural position

no chance of that happening a coca cola champoinship team will take him first far to good for first division.
The ghost of Jim Morton
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no chance of that happening a coca cola champoinship team will take him first far to good for first division.


So were Jody and Jason.

It's got to be a sealed deal now anyway what with your track record of predictions laugh.gif
blairgowriedee
Should add a FEW supporters through the turnstiles wink.gif
Kyle
QUOTE (jimmydfc1893 @ Nov 9 2008, 19:56) *
no chance of that happening a coca cola champoinship team will take him first far to good for first division.

It would be a 2 month emergency loan if it were to happen, meaning he could go to a championship team in January with a little more match practice and so could be considered for a first team place right away. Rangers get a chance to see if he still has it with us, and we benefit from having a natural left full back. Everyone would be a winner!

We'll most definitely sign a full back in January anyway, so the short term nature of the deal would suit all parties.

Saying all that, I'm not convinced we'll actually bring him in.
The Arch
I don't think St Johnstone should be allowed to sign another left back called Smith, considering how poorly treated their last one was.
7-2
QUOTE (The Arch @ Nov 9 2008, 21:34) *
I don't think St Johnstone should be allowed to sign another left back called Smith, considering how poor their last one was.

Sorted!
PTFC27
Who was their last one? unsure.gif
The ghost of Jim Morton
QUOTE (PTFC27 @ Nov 9 2008, 22:43) *
Who was their last one? unsure.gif



Dan Smith from Aberdeen. He wisnae very good though
SingaporeSaint
Yes Please !
SavotheGreat
QUOTE (jimmydfc1893 @ Nov 9 2008, 19:56) *
no chance of that happening


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He told you did he?

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supersaint44
http://www.thecourier.co.uk/output/2008/11...y12220580t0.asp

says here in a small sentance at the bottom "St Johnstone are set to bring in Rangers full-back Steven Smith on loan." looks like it might not be so far fetched as most people think...... biggrin.gif
STJOHNSTONE%100
why not? dundee got alex rae success.

Nizzy
QUOTE (STJOHNSTONE%100 @ Nov 10 2008, 10:02) *
why not? dundee got alex rae success.

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Is Steven Smith set to be named your new manager?
Nizzy
Who will make way for Smith should he sign? Will the ginger whinger be relegated to the bench, or will he be moved into the midfield at the expense of Peanut?
supersaint44
QUOTE (Nizzy @ Nov 10 2008, 12:01) *
Who will make way for Smith should he sign? Will the ginger whinger be relegated to the bench, or will he be moved into the midfield at the expense of Peanut?



I would imagine IF smith does come to the club then Craig would move into the midfield role and Peanut, Craig, Swankie, Moon, Morris (and too a lesser extent Morgan and McKoy) would fight it out for the two mifield role beside Millar and Hardie (at the moment). i think it'd be a nice dilema to have.
Stadio Delle Almondvale
QUOTE (Dr. Name @ Nov 9 2008, 19:06) *
Wasnt he going to a championship team on loan?



QUOTE (jimmydfc1893 @ Nov 9 2008, 19:56) *
no chance of that happening a coca cola champoinship team will take him first far to good for first division.


It only makes sense for Smith to move and continue his re-hab if he is going to get a game. He is probably guaranteed (part of the deal?) to get played week in, week out with Saints if he is fit. That won't happen in England.

Good signing if it happens. Roberto will be very impressed. biggrin.gif
john1962
QUOTE (Stadio Delle Almondvale @ Nov 10 2008, 13:31) *
Good signing if it happens. Roberto will be very impressed. biggrin.gif


Is that the Roberto Landi St Johnstone Supporter's Club? laugh.gif laugh.gif
Nizzy
QUOTE (john1962 @ Nov 10 2008, 17:45) *
Is that the Roberto Landi St Johnstone Supporter's Club? laugh.gif laugh.gif

He still thinks your manager's a dick, though.
Fife Saint
QUOTE (Nizzy @ Nov 10 2008, 17:45) *
He still thinks your manager's a dick, though.



He's just jealous about his sunkist complexion.
Disraeli
Steven Smith is an excellent player and I hope that he can go out on loan and regain a degree of confidence. His contract only runs until next summer, so the coming months will be integral to his future at Rangers.

Fife Saint
QUOTE (Disraeli @ Nov 10 2008, 18:04) *
Steven Smith is an excellent player and I hope that he can go out on loan and regain a degree of confidence. His contract only runs until next summer, so the coming months will be integral to his future at Rangers.



I was under the impression he was free to leave on the basis that his injury has left him a crippled gimp with no long term prospect of consistently staying injury-free?
Disraeli
QUOTE (Fife Saint @ Nov 10 2008, 18:10) *
I was under the impression he was free to leave on the basis that his injury has left him a crippled gimp with no long term prospect of consistently staying injury-free?



Nope, he's expected to see out his contract - although he is available on loan. I have no idea whether he's a gimp (that's not really my scene) but he's certainly still got pace.
Fife Saint
QUOTE (Disraeli @ Nov 10 2008, 18:34) *
Nope, he's expected to see out his contract - although he is available on loan. I have no idea whether he's a gimp (that's not really my scene) but he's certainly still got pace.



Excellent news.
Kyle
QUOTE (Disraeli @ Nov 10 2008, 18:34) *
Nope, he's expected to see out his contract - although he is available on loan. I have no idea whether he's a gimp (that's not really my scene) but he's certainly still got pace.

Sounds good to me biggrin.gif

Now lets just hope we actually sign him now!
SingaporeSaint
Unlikely to happen according to the Dundee Courier. Oh Well, hopefully we have a decent LB targetted for the January window.
Fife Saint
DM wasn't keen on talking about it based on the PA today. I don't know when the report was drawn up right enough but would assume it was yesterday.
sign dave
well maybe we just have to settle for the finnish boy then kononon or something his name is,

although his clubs website states he was born in sweeden.

he looks like a hard player, and will fit right into our defence.
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