As the title suggests, who would you like to see managing Clyde when Brown leaves. We're all calling for his head but who could we get in to replace him? Personally I don't have a clue, just looking to hear everyone elses opinions.

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graham roberts

Possibly Alex Rae but yet again we don't have the money i think get Craig Brown back!!!
but wait his second name is

Me.

As long as you travel up to Victoria Park on the team bus in future and not via. any mode of public transport!

Your touchline demeanour would be even less inspiring than Brown's!

How about me?

That's the one.

is it not too soon to be sacking Brown? Genuine question, not had the job long, and from all accounts very little money to deal with.

you would only replace him with another failure.

Jim Duffy or John Robertson

Would love Graham Roberts back. But no chance that's going to happen...

Just remembered. Alan Kernaghan anyone??? He was fantastic with us years ago.

Jim Duffy has an excellent record of getting teams relegated. One of those people in scottish football who seem to have an excellent reputation but an appalling record.

What about Billy Stark? Then you would have my least favourite saints manager and one of my least favourite saints players (willie mclaren) at your club.

Can Clyde afford to do that though, give the guy time. He can't be as bad as Hendry FFS.

I'm yet to come across a reasoned argument why Brown should be fired. Looking at the competition for places in this league, Clyde fans cannot expect anything higher than ninth place. Currently you are one point adrift. There are six or seven teams in this league that you cannot expect to defeat or even take points from. Ninth place is about all you can hope for and Brown is well on the way to securing it for you. I think even Morton are a class above the lesser two or three in this league. IMO, it's between Airdie and Clyde for bottom spot.

I think this is one of the many problems with getting rid of Brown - there are few, if any serious candidates lying on the managerial scrapheap - look at Dundee's relentless pursuit of a failure like Kenny Black! Having Duffy, Rae or Robertson wouldn't fill me with any more confidence than the current manager as they're all rubbish. I suppose Robertson would at least come in with an attacking mentality to some extent.

I could suggest 2/3 possibilities but all the guys I'd be happy with are currently at clubs - even if we can afford to get rid of Brown, there's no chance we'd be able to pay a "transfer fee" for a replacement!

Is an excellent manager but wouldn't walk out of his current job. In which he has, thus far, done very well regardless of our failure to qualify.

Not much point in sacking Brown though. Vicious circle.

Words of wisdom as always, David. Well said. Listen to the man Clyde fans, concentrate all your efforts into surviving the threat of automatic relegation. Any position above that can be regarded a success.

He is probably a good coach. Trust me, he is not an "excellent manager". I agree with your second point incidently.

I don't think it's too early to be sacking Brown at all. His tactics are appalling and so are his training methods by the looks of things. It's easy enough for fans of other teams to be coming on here and saying he's not been given enough time. If you's had to put up with the shit that we're watching week in, week out then you's would be calling for his head aswell. The guy is useless.

In terms of money, Brown has had more money to spend that a lot of the previous managers and we're still struggling at the bottom. The majority of the players we have are good enough I believe to keep us up but not under Brown. If it was possible, I would bring back Kernaghan - he done an excellent job with us and we were playing good, attacking football. I'd love to see Graeme Roberts back but there's no chance at all of that happening. If we can't get Kernaghan I'd go for Robertson.

kevin keegan

John McCormack anyone?

Yes please. He'll be the Director of Football.

As far as I'm concerned, and I'm far from being alone, the arguement is that we have a squad of players who I believe are more than capable of finishing this league mid-table, but they need the right man at the helm to get them there.
Brown is clearly not the man for the job. He has spent the second half of last season and the whole of this season playing around with positions and seems incapable of recognising one that works! Even when it is put in front of him accidentally by virtue of enforced substitutions.
The number of times he drops players when they have played well defies comprehension and to say he is tactically naive is the Understatement of the Year.

I would say our performance at McDiarmid this season is testimony that the ability is there! The management of it is not!

Something is very, very wrong in the dressing room and it all points to Brown.

Actually, scrap that. I've just read the last page of the Thistle-Clyde post match thread and I'd have David W manager with SP as his assistant.

If that's the case who or what was responsible for your 3-2 victory? Luck? If it was luck then clearly your victory did not play testimony to the fact you are capable of a mid-table finish. If it was John Brown then it clearly illustrates he is capable and that your opinion has no basis. If it was the players then clearly they have to be responsible for the good as well as the bad, bringing into question just who is responsible for the current predicament you find yourselves in, John Brown, the players or both.

You can't laud praise on the players and criticise Brown in the same sentence. It is nigh impossible to distinguish between the two. If you consider your victory in Perth a glimmer of hope then you must also consider it testimony, in some small way at least, to Brown's potential as a manager.

I couldn't agree more. To me Clyde barely have a 2nd Division team with a barely 2nd Division manager.

Where does this belief stem from? You finished ninth last season and, from what I've seen, those Brown brought to the club in the summer aren't any better than those that left. If you're going to criticise him then it should be his signing policy that comes under the spotlight.

That's his main failing, not the fact he can't get what you would term 'the best' out of a squad of mediocre players.

Mixu Paatelainen - please

TBH I think Alan Kernaghan would be brilliant for us and i feel we need someone like him Give us your thoughts people Brown out=Kernaghan In

Actually, he's about the best you can hope for. Not a terrible manager, as many would lead you to believe. Give him a chance and I think he may do well for yous.

Wouldn't be a bad move but it will be a long time before he ever goes near the top of the first division with Clyde again!

Not Kernaghan. I'm astounded any Clyde fan would want him back at the club. It ranks alongside wanting Duffy as being totally daft.

I agree the David W/Sao Paulo combination would do well. Some of our tactical discussions on MSN are at a level above this division though.

Obviously I am not in on your MSN discussions, but I have no problem in believing this.

Some might say the same about Morton.

Tell me sir. Did you once write under the aliases Mr Roberts/MilesBrookson/John McVeigh?

Were I to put the posts side by side and employ the literary critical techniques of source, form and redaction criticism, I may not discover too much. But your tedious and repetitive ramblings about Clyde might just give the game away.

I appreciate that as a Morton fan, you need to clutch at any straw. But stone me! Do you really believe that you have a squad that matches the rest in the division?

Well, for a change, a statement of your that holds some credability, you are more than qualified to make such an educated assessment considering the ammount of time you have spent in the 2nd division recently.

I dont think Alan Kernaghans a bad shout. Some didn't like him but he took us to within a ba hair of the SPL.

The only other name that hasn't been mentioned yet that I can think of is Rowan Alexander. Probably wouldn't be popular amongst the players but he has a winning mentality.

And no it certainly isnt too late to rid ourselves of Brown. We are a sinking ship under him and it has been obvious for a bit now.

Gary Bollan/Dougie Bell - jobshare

Wouldn't be took expensive, respected in the dressing room, have gone above and beyond the call in the past, and got two outstanding performances in their two games in charge last season.

Why the hell not?

Gary Bollan?

1. Allan Preston.
2. Cowboy.
3. Alex Rae.
4. Kevin Keegan.
5. Dick Campbell - just the chap to engineer the Second Division escape.

Alan Kernaghan.

Rangers youth coach, that fact alone must make him the front runner. Might not be bad enough for the job though.

No I have no aliases and am not an alias myself. Happy to help.
Do I really think Morton have squad that matches the rest of the division? I see 3 wins out of 4, scoring 7 for the loss of a paltry 2 goals. I see the first defeat at Palmerston suffered by Queen of the South since last December. I also see no 'complete' side in the division with the possible exception of St Johnstone. I see a scrappy midtable finish for ourselves, and relegation for yourselves.



Correct. You'd barely stay up with the amount of garbage in your side.

Brown passed away.

See here

R.I.P

Yeah but they will still pedal the same old tired points. When the team wins it is all to do with the players. When they lose it has everything to do with the manager. The classic case of a support waging a vendetta against their manager; not too unlike Morton, IMHO (not a dig at Morton).

There is a blame culture in football and more often than not, and often incorrectly, the manager is first on the list of targets. There could be ANY number of reasons why it is not working out. IMO, and this reflects historical fact, success is easier to achieve when supporters are willing to give the manager TIME and SPACE to adjust, to settle and to build up a squad. I do not define time as a mere few months but at least a year. Stark, Clark, Connolly, Coyle and Sturrock, all were given over a year (almost in Connolly's case) and significantly longer in most cases. Three witnessed SPL duty, one took us on two phenomenal cup runs and the other was a wash out.

Alex Ferguson, Rafa Benitez, Arsene Wenger. All have gone through seasons where they have witnessed their teams playing testimony to what it's like to be a lump of shite. But all have achieved success at their club in the long run. These days however it seems like clubs believe the best way to acheive success is by shipping them in and shipping them out - enjoy the momentary boost a new guy brings to the squad and then six months down the line, when he experiences a bad run of form, chuck him. Newcastle and Tottenham are prime examples of big clubs that have failed to fulfill their potential in recent years - both are wheelers and dealers in the managerial transfer market.

When you take on a manager you have to be thinking in terms of years, not months. If you are going to set yourself aside from the competition then you need to be prepared to stick by him and the the team through the bad spells. You can't just cry slaughter whenever you experience a 4-0 humping at the hands of Partick Thistle.

Dick Campbell please.

It's about time Paul Ritchie, Darren Brady, Pat Keogh & Sean Kilgannon graced the 1st Division again.

They don't have to. They only have to be better than one or two in the division. To be fair I think you both have crap managers, but for me Morton are a 'slightly' better team.

Whatever you do don't go near Jim Duffy. You have been warned.

Wille Mcstay, he has been touted as a poss replacement at Thistle should McCall leave.

He has a great record at youth and reserve level.

I still think Clyde would be stupid to sack Brown.

surprised no clyde fans have said alan maitland back hes done ok for us fair enough were going through a bad patch at the minute but id say hes 1 of the top managers in the lower leagues

I think Alan Kernaghan would be a good shout, did a good job last time. I always bring these guys up but i think thye would be good outsiders for 1st division jobs, Andy Millen, Gary McSwegan, james Grady and what every happened too Paul Kane.

i have nothing against clyde at all but i'm delighted john brown has failed miserably. the way he dealt with the dumbarton situation was extremely un-professional and made us look slightly stupid.

i'm just glad he now looks like the tit while we've got the far better manager in jim chapman

I more or less agree 100% Savo. I doubt many saints fans were overjoyed when either coyle or mcinnes were appointed, but both got time and both (are looking like) being successes. The only time i dont think time will be given is when whats delivered is miles below what is expected e.g. the threat of relegation under Connolly......espically when that manager has brought in over 20 of his own players!

One thing i would argue though is that Stark got too much time, it was clear way before he left we weren't heading anywhere under him. And would add him to the "washout" pile!

In general though, you can really assess a manger too much first season, espcially when he doesn't have his own players in. Once he has his own team, however, if the players arent performing you start to look at the manager.