It gets worse. First half we were utter garbage! Morton played some excellent football mind and did something QoS yet again failed to do - kept the ball on the deck. 3 well taken goals. Sives cost us the first and Nellie kept his composure to slot home. Second was a well taken header about 6 yards out from Nellie again. The third was from that ugly pr%ck. No one picked him up and he rattled it in, I applauded it myself as it was a great strike. 3 flattered us I felt and whoever said it was an even game in the first half wasn't watching properly as Morton clearly dominated! The closest we came to scoring was a ball cleared off th eline from Weatherston (it looked like it was off the line from my view anyway). Queens tried everything in the first half except try to play football!
Second half and we came out flying, we dominate until we scored and dominated after it, when we played the ball on the deck and passed it quickly Morton were shaken. Morton got a lucky 4th and it was officially game set match.
Deserved win for Morton due to their first half performance, second half QoS we by far the better team but the damage had been done.
The amount of times Morton cleared it only just and the lucky bounces that went their way was unbelievable! The ball just did not want to go into the net! It just wasn't meant to be and last ditch defending from Morton was excellent as well as extremely lucky!

Good support for Morton and a good first half performance to match. Chis got Kean on too late IMO, I thought his pace would have threatened Morton but he was brought on too late. If we play like we did in the first half up at Dundee we'll get beat again, if we play like we did in the second half we'll get a draw at least.

Until next week.

Thank f**k we didn't appoint this dud as manager.

To Morton, a big thank you from St Johnstone.

The manager can be blamed but he can't make the players perform on the park.

queens were awful in the first half but if Tosh hadn't given away the free kick that led to the fourth goal which he didn't have to give away i thought queens would of scored a 2nd and maybe could of gone on to win the match

Here we go. Tosh this Tosh that. The guy makes one mistake and it's his fault. Typical. If the defender had marked Greacen maybe he wouldn't have got the header in no??

Well, the good thing is my PO will be happy.

Every cloud and all that

deserved win for Morton they played the simple 5 -10 yard passes on the deck and kept it simple. we kept pumping high balls in the swirling wind and mortons back 4 cleared everything up with ease.some quality goals by Ton.
2nd half we came out and put preasure on Morton but it was never going to be, Morton keeper mom for me with some outstanding saves. Queens disapointing for me we stood too far of there midfield players giving them time to turn and play the simple pass.

we wont challenge for the league with performances like that. it gets worse because we are away next weekand and we all know our away form is our achilles heel. oh well am away to drown my sorrows...

Sometimes i wish Palmerston was our home ground.

less said about the 1st half the better id say.


as i walked towards my car with 15mins left i heard the oooohs and the ahhhhs and that basicly summed the game up for us and that is how im gonna sum it up. credit to cuthbert great performance in nets and again it justifys my calls at the start of the season "we signed the wrong one" no disrespect to cammy who could not be faulted for any of the goals as he was clearly heard shouting to sives- Clear clear it clear it! anyway im not going to get dragged into talking about the 1st half anymore.


queens need to lower their expectations big time! this "ego" that we have created for ourselfs has well and truley bitten us on the arse. out played and well beaten by sides we claim we should be beaten! maybe today is the wake up call..........we are not and i repeat NOT as good as we think we are!

ive been sayin it for ages.....st johnstone will win the league!

Qos19 you need to watch Tosher to see what he brings to the team you are entitled to your opinion but i have to disagree. big mac is the player that breaks everything up and stevie should be driving forward and creating chances. at this moment in time I don't know if he has lost his appetite for the game because for a few games now he is back 20 yards in our own half getting the ball frome the centre backs and then giving them back a pass from 4 yards He was not the only player which was poor today but for his experience he has to give a bit more.

Personally I never heard Bell shouting and TBH I never heard him shout at all today or last or the week before that and so on. I sometimes wonder if the guy has a voice box. You could argue that he could have narrowed the angle better for the first but I myself blame SIves, just throwing a different outlook onto the goal. The second he couldn't be faulted as Peter was about 6 yards out. The third he didn't seem to have a good view so again can't be blamed. The 4th I think he could have got along his goal a wee bit quicker but the defender should have been tighter on Greacen anyway.

Of late Bell has been poor for me and I would like to see Halliwell given another shot. If the rumours about McDonald/Hutton are true I'd be extremely happy as we don't have a keeper just now I am confident with.

utterly gutless again. Whats the excuse this Chis week then? Injuries? fair enough we had problems but the team that started the game should have been good enough to win that game. We were totally outfought by a very efficient morton side. Jenkins goal was a cracker but why was nobody even attempting to close him down? What was sives doign withthat header? and why did nellie get a free header 6 yards out?

I dont think ive seen a team relenquish possession as often, and so easily, as we do. Week after week after week we do it and this time we were heavily punished for it.

As for promotion, not for me this season. We aren't even half as good as the team of burke, bowser, bagan etc. The only reason we're at the top is because the standard of this league is so poor.

Who the f**k is Nellie?

You. Fucking. Dancer. That is all.

I agree with what you say Roddie but my arguement just now is that Tosh makes one mistake in a game and the fans are down on him like a ton of bricks! I completely agree that he isn't giving us that drive forward just now that he can but for me he was the best man on the park last week. He recieves criticism all the time yet people are a lot slower to praise him. Today proves my point a bit with someone blaming him for the 4th goal! A defender doesn't mark the Morton goalscorer yet the blame is put onto Tosh!

Tosh - (certain QoS fans') Scape Goat.

Peter Weatherson was given that nickname when he played for us. Nelly or Nellie take your pick, it's 6 and half a dozen whatever spelling you accept .

being honest i did hear him shout clear it and as i spoke to one of my mates on the road out he said it too makes no odds we got pumped 1st half second we were much better and i believe if we had got a second we could of won the game thats what i think anyway! i dont really agree with you that bell has been poor ive been to airdrie, partick and again today and honestly i couldntfault him for one goal! if i was to fault him at all it would be that he doesnt command his area enough. but each to our own opinions!

nobody should be singled out today (im not saying you are) every player has to ask themselves did they do enough today in the first half and if any of them say yes then they are talking balls. 2nd half if they asked themsleves the same question and they said yes id agree! second half we were playin the way we played when we were flying high. their 4th was the sucker punch and they didnt desrve it! i think 4-1 flattered them abit after watchin the second half IMO

* You must have been closer than I was, I was quite near the back of the portland drive stand. Some would say I would never have heard back there but when I've heard keepers shouting at the terregles street end from there I think I should be able to hear a keeper from the end closest to me! You have obviously heard him but I didn't but he obviously has shouted (maybe not loud enough ).

** Totally agree, but it wasn't meant to be unfortunately.

*** It's not a case of me thinking he has been poor. The reason I am annoyed with him is because of the point you made at **** he does not command his area and I think due to that Halliwell should be given another go to see how he get on. Whether it happens or not is up to Chis!

These are the kind of teams Queens should be beating

First off - well done Morton. A tremendous result for you guys and a pumping for us.

Three defeats in the last four for us is poor, especially against teams that if you are looking to win the league you should be beating. That said, in the games we have been beaten I don't think we can have any complaints about the results. We have some tough games coming up and that really will be a test of our character. If we pick up some positive results then the last month will be forgotten and put down as mini slump.

I am not going to get to upset about today, the same as I did not get too carried away about our pumping of Livi. There were a couple of positive results today with the Pars getting beat and Livi drawing.

I am away for a couple of beers now to numb the pain of today.

id certainly would of hoped he would of been communicating from that position, it makes no odds anyway!



not wanting to get drawn into a goalkeeping debate especailly when we have to focus on how bad queens played as a team, but i will say this... halliwell is worse than cammy when it comes to commanding his area and coming for crosses halliwells best attribute is his shot stopping and in this case shot stopping doesnt come into play because we cant fault cammy for that. the only keepers i have ever saw commanding an area perfectly are older experienced keepers for intance andy goram. IMO the difference today was kevin cuthbert but even he doesnt command his area all that well. what im sayin is that all that comes with confidence and experience somethin i reckon cammy hasnt got. as i say though lets not get too caught up in this argument me and you have shown before that we have different opinions at times!

IF we want to challenge then yes. would you not agree with that?

Fucking OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

id agree to an extent but i feel we need to step away from what people think and have been sayin that we are title contenders, we are a good team now granted but were not as good as we think we are!

id of phrased it more like we should be winning our home games rather than sayin these are the teams we should be beaten i think it comes across almost like we are full of ourselfs.

How did you get on today and what has been the results in our past two meetings? Now bugger off to the relegation thread will you.

19QOS19, ive gotta agree with u about goalkeeping front. Never heard Bell at all. Last week at Partick Cammy would just stand on his line instead of coming out, collecting and relieving pressure. If we got Jamie Mc back id be delighted
We were piss poor in the first half and why couldnt we have started the 1st like we did the 2nd?
On a different note, is it just me or is Burnsy MIA at the moment? Dont get me wrong, im a big fan of his but to me he just doesnt seem the player he was last season. Anyone else think that?

Thankyou

And goodnight

i also think mcfarlane has been MIA doesnt seem to be breaking play down like he was. i personally think up until the airdrie game he was the main reason we were doing so well, stopping teams playing football and that.

burns was rotten today but im not going to slag him off at all as he hasnt exactly been playin along side a good team of late.

Another happy night Danny or are you on a rig.

Keeping your promise from the Norseman of sorting out the teams who have a chance of keeping up with the Saints !

Thanks Morton.

What does MIA stand for I have an idea but not 100% sure. I pressume this is negativity towards Burns' performances and if so I agree with you. He hasn't been playing as well as what he can and today I thought he should have been hooked. Certainly not as good so far this season as what he was last. I am also a fan of his but would like to see more from him.

Gave them a 3 goal start then came back into the game only to gift them a 4th with shocking defending and Sives having a nightmare, will be glad when he goes in Jan.

Tosh hasn't had a good game this season and should start on the bench next week with the only problem being we've nobody to replace him.

Do we have any decent centre halfs apart from the over the hill one?

Bar Thomson (who most will class as our best defender) who do we have better to fill Sives' boots? Some may say Barr but he isn't as good as Sives in the middle. Sives was actually my MOM until he made his blunder. Aitken and Parratt were the worst defenders on the park today.

Tosh had a good game last week and was the only player who kept trying until the last minute. We need more from him but he wasn't as bad today as what he has been in previous games thi season.

A great first half for us. Easily the best we've played all season. neat finish from Weatherson for the first although what the Queen's centre back was thinking of is beyond me. Our second was pure class from McAlister. He didn't do too much else all game, but he turned the defence inside out before a fine cross to the back post. Jenkins was very good all game and his header back across goal was perfect for big Peter to nod down past the keeper. Number 3 was sheer class from Jenkins. A beautifully hit volley after the ball came out from a corner.

I thought Queen's would give us a torrid time after the break and I was right. O'Conner took his goal well although I thought the ref should have stopped the gave so that McGufie could get treatment. But my man-of-the-match was Cuthbert who pulled off 3 brilliant saves. If Queen's had scored again we would have been in trouble and I do worry about the character of some of our defence and midfiled when we are under pressure. They pacicked to easily, gave the ball away far too ofter and only our keeper kept us ahead.

Once Greacen headed in Masterton's perfect free kick, we were home and dry. Although Queens huffed and puffed, they didn't finish well ehough. I think we struggled to cope with the wind in the second half and Queens are a good attacking side. Overall, we deserved it on our first half performance and if we can play that well and keep the heid under pressure, we'll do OK.

Only real downer was the Palmerston Bovril. I could ask what the f##k was in it but I don't want to know and I'm never drinking it again.

MIA means Missing in Action (im tryin to be a smart arse ).
Sives started game well but soon as he made that mistake his head was down and looked rattled. If only he hadnt rattled he crossbar 2nd half we may hav went on for a draw.
Anybody know what was wrong with McGowan today? Never heard bout him bein injured??

well done morton, gave a fighting performance and got the result,good away support aswell. but any morton fan that was at the game should agree that our second half performance was more inspiring and they way queens are capable of playing, and if wasnt for your keeper we might have sneaked a draw. but take nothing away from morton they had the desire and the fight in them, as for nellie some of our support booed him but the guy is brilliant.

I thought that's what it meant but I didn't want to say anything incase it was well off! . I totally agree with you on what you say about Sives, like I previously said he was my MOM until his blunder then he just cracked. I was wondering myself about McGowan as I would have liked him to have played at right back in place of Parratt.



Spot on. I actually applauded him off today, he scored two good goals and not once did he rub it in the QoS fans' faces. Fair play to him!

McFarlane has a big problem - Tosh!
Tosh is alledgedly the creative midfield player who supplies the ammunition to our front men.
Unfortunately today , as in most games this season , he is happier playing on the wrong side of the half-way line and making square or backward passes.
McFarlane is the one , who as well as doing the job he's there to do , has to try to get forward and do the job that Tosh isn't doing.
A spell on the bench wouldn't do Tosh any harm and would certainly help the team.

Burns plays better on the right wing, has he been told to drift in by the master tactician?

Do you think Tosh contributed to our defeat today Veteran? You do make some good points but for todays the game the blame has to be taken by the defence. Tosh seems to be recieving a lot of abuse on the MAD site as well. He may not have had a good game today but he was not the worst player on the park today, there were 4 guys behind him a lot worse than him.

I refuse to believe what happened today actually happened. First of all McGuffie's desision to be useful and secondly the scoreline. The scoreline would probably suggest that the game was all ours but really, with the amount of pressure we absorbed in the second half, QOS probably should have won - if there wasn't such a guy as Kevin Cuthbert.

It would have been excellent to have got a clean sheet without Shimmin, but so be it, two cracking goals, four great finishes. Alan Jenkins' goal was sublime. Greacen's header was a belter too. Credit to Stevie Masterton for the presision on the delivery.

Irons might be a dodgy manager but I think he proved today that he's a damn fine coach. It was reported in the local paper during the week that Irons has had the players doing extra attacking drills in an attempt to get us scoring more. The scoreline today says it all.

I hope we can repeat that first half in all our remaining games. Football actually being played and every single player chipping in. Great result today.

Everyone one says the first half was totally garbage but I disagree, Queens dominated for the first 15mins and could and should have scorded at least one. Burns had a good chance that Dobbie failed to get on the end of. Weatherston missed on too when he screwed across goal instead of hitting the keeper.

To me Sives was playing just a little too deep allowing forwards to run at him. If he could just have stepped up a bit he would have caught the forwards offside more. Once the first goal went in it was one way traffic and Queens never got a look in. Sives badily at fault for first but there is no way anyone can blame Bell. All he could do was close down the angle which he did and the ball just scraped insdie the post. Second was poor defending, Parrot got caught at start of move too far up field but still the centre halves should have cleared. With ball bouncing acros the goal there was no way Bell could have come for it without leaving the near post either time. Thirds was a well struck goal how it got through amased me as when we tried in second half it would hit a defender and deflect for a corner. That said everyone around me was asking before the corner was taking for someone to stand outside the box to defend any clearance. Morton then played as good a footabll as I have seen all season nice simple passes to feet with willing runners. Queens couldn't scrape two passes togather.

Start of second half only one team in it, seem to be saying this every week that it takes until second half before Queens started playing. Bad defending led to our goal but O'conner was quick enough to react. Afte rthat we plunnelled the goal but bodies kept getting in the way or keeper made good saves. All too often shots were hit straight at him too.

Dad challenge led to about only chance and cross Morton got in second half. Poor shape at freekirk allowed a stooping header. Cross should have been blocked. That knocked the stuffing out of the come back.

Was something thrown at Morton keeper. Saw he threw something behind goal in second half and then a number of stewards around the area. Thought I saw police and stewards checking ground as I left. If there was something thrown, this behavious needs to be stamped out.

Overall Morton came on hit and run and scorded three goals first half that killed game off. Second half played well and if Queens had got a second well who knows...........

* We were awful. Morton were by far the better team on that park. There was no point in the first when QoS dominated, we barely got the ball out of our half!

** If I remember correctly we were 1 down when he missed that chance.

*** He was at fault and I pressume you are having a dig at one of my earlier posts. It was not Bell's fault but for arguements sake he could have possibly reacted a bit quicker to Sives' poor pass back, but I don't blame Bell.

**** I disagree. It was a quick passing movement from Dobbie, Tosh and O'Connor which lead to our goal. It was the best piece of football we had played up until then and we scored from it!

***** I have possibly not understood what you are meaning by saying hit and run, but if you are suggesting Morton just attacked in patches and count us off guard I disagree. They played football, dominated and deserved every one of their goals. If I have misinterpretated what you mean I apologise!

The contribution by Tosh to the game today was minimal at best.
His passing was too often poor and his support to the front men was almost non-existent.
I know he's a cult figure and fans are expecting the real Tosh to re-appear any game now.
It hasn't and untill it does a spell on the bench is in order.

It may or may not be significant that when Morton fans in the first half were chanting "Tosh you're a w*nker" a fair number of Queens fans round me seemed to be in agreement.

Don't you find it ironic that the people who are expecting the "real Tosh" to appear are the folk slagging him?

His passing was bad today yes but I have to argue the case about his service to the front men. How is he supposed to play through balls to Sean and Dobbs if the ball was flying over his head all day? Until QoS learn to play the ball on the deck then we won't get the best out of Tosh.

The only problem with dropping Tosh is that we have no one to replace him, Simmons is a defensive midfielder also.

What a feckin result this is what i love about the 1st div. livi get tanked by Qos ,Morton give Qos a good pasting then livi more than likely would have a easy win over Morton if we played them next week

Opening 15 mins I thought Weatherston was going to get ripped into the right side of Ton defence. Great game plan -get behind defence, dangerous crosses, loads od chances for Dobbie and o Connor - how wrong can you be?

The next 30 mins was just utter ineffective long ball rubbish. Ball given away regularly and awful distribution from the back.
First Morton goal was a joke but they well deserved their three nil lead at HT. They were playing all the good football.
Second half saw some improvement but it was too late.

Before you Morton fans get carried away - the new bottom club come to Palmerston in a couple of weeks.

Prison Officer?

first of all well done Morton great reasult for you guys and one that was totaly deserved.

Queens started brightly but morton started passing the ball about nicely a goal was comeing step up crais sives thanx pal what was he thinking weak header and nelly was just dieing to put it away from then on i thought we looked like a bloody 3 div side no comitment at all.

Morton got their 2nd through nelly again however i felt Bell SHOULD have come for it no player should ever score a header inside the 6yrd box if your keeper is doing his job properly badly defended but bell was a statue and it cost us.

now the 3rd was a peach and a goal that i aplauded as it was superb jekins couldint have hit it any bettter and from the moment it left his foot it looked in. morton 3 up and it flatterd US

2nd half much better big sean took his goal well and it gave us a lift the game looked to be turning but kevin cuthpert had other ideas save afta save although the less said bout his kicking the better the morton defenders were doing their best to throw the game away talk about panick had we got a 2nd we would have won the game id say.
the 4rth killed the game game over and although we could well have got 1 or even 3 points on another day morton deserved their victory.

now a cpl of alarming things here 1 when morton scored the 3rd there was at leat 40-50 fans walked out get a fucking grip and no2 the person that threw what looked to be a coin should be delt with end of no matta who it was ban them theirs no ned for it.