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fanny paddery
Current odds

Lewis Hamilton 8/15
Rebecca Adlington 5/2
Chris Hoy 13/2
Andrew Murray 40/1


These are from bet 365, i feel these are good odds for hamilton as he must be a stick on?
vikingTON
I'm thinking of chucking £100 on Hamilton as there's no way in Hell he isn't winning it. I'm suprised they're actually taking bets.
Frank Booth
QUOTE (fanny paddery @ Nov 6 2008, 23:15) *
Current odds

Lewis Hamilton 8/15
Rebecca Adlington 5/2
Chris Hoy 13/2
Andrew Murray 40/1


These are from bet 365, i feel these are good odds for hamilton as he must be a stick on?

Indeed...£150 wins you £80 and obviously multiples thereof
Frank Booth
QUOTE (vikingTON @ Nov 6 2008, 23:20) *
I'm thinking of chucking £100 on Hamilton as there's no way in Hell he isn't winning it. I'm suprised they're actually taking bets.

Actually, i've done something potentially way more stupid than that.
fanny paddery
QUOTE (Frank Booth @ Nov 6 2008, 23:31) *
Actually, i've done something potentially way more stupid than that.

How much lol
vikingTON
QUOTE (Frank Booth @ Nov 6 2008, 23:31) *
Actually, i've done something potentially way more stupid than that.


On something else? Honest to God, with the Beeb taking the F1 next year and the youngest, first British champion since 96 Hell would be composed entirely of liquid nitrogen before anyone else wins that award. The only way he can possibly lose is if I put money on it.
Frank Booth
QUOTE (vikingTON @ Nov 6 2008, 23:36) *
On something else? Honest to God, with the Beeb taking the F1 next year and the youngest, first British champion since 96 Hell would be composed entirely of liquid nitrogen before anyone else wins that award. The only way he can possibly lose is if I put money on it.

Agreed...it was just the size of the bet...I had to get "a trader" to approve it
Frank Booth
QUOTE (fanny paddery @ Nov 6 2008, 23:35) *
How much lol

All will be revealed in mid December in either my "GIRUY Bookies" celebration or my suicide note...
blue4578
It's a higher price on Betfair, with the possibility to trade out later if you so wish.

This should be a winning bet, but you could've backed it at odds against not that long ago, even when he had a healthy lead in the championship. If people can still remember the Olympics a few weeks from now, Adlington could push him close as well. You can be certain that the BBC will be making a big thing of the Olympics on the night, especially as they have all the coverage to show. You might get a few short clips of Hamilton in action due the the BBC not having the rights this year. That will certainly open the door for Adlington and Hoy to get a few more votes than they would've done otherwise.

Andy Murray could win the ATP Masters Cup over the next week or so to cap a superb year. However that is out of sight in China on Sky Sports early in the morning, so no one will notice even if he does.
Fuctifano
QUOTE (blue4578 @ Nov 6 2008, 23:52) *
It's a higher price on Betfair, with the possibility to trade out later if you so wish.

This should be a winning bet, but you could've backed it at odds against not that long ago, even when he had a healthy lead in the championship. If people can still remember the Olympics a few weeks from now, Adlington could push him close as well. You can be certain that the BBC will be making a big thing of the Olympics on the night, especially as they have all the coverage to show. You might get a few short clips of Hamilton in action due the the BBC not having the rights this year. That will certainly open the door for Adlington and Hoy to get a few more votes than they would've done otherwise.

Andy Murray could win the ATP Masters Cup over the next week or so to cap a superb year. However that is out of sight in China on Sky Sports early in the morning, so no one will notice even if he does.


I think the only thing that could maybe stop Hamilton now is England winning the rugby league world cup vs Australia in the final by the score of 142-0, with one guy getting all the tries, taking all the conversions, and punching all 17 Aussie players in the face without any of them getting noticed by the ref, then shagging all the Aussie players' wives / girlfriends and sticking the videos on Youporn.

Even then I'd probably still back Hamilton.
ShakehandsTom - DFC
QUOTE (Fuctifano @ Nov 7 2008, 00:07) *
I think the only thing that could maybe stop Hamilton now is England winning the rugby league world cup vs Australia in the final by the score of 142-0, with one guy getting all the tries, taking all the conversions, and punching all 17 Aussie players in the face without any of them getting noticed by the ref, then shagging all the Aussie players' wives / girlfriends and sticking the videos on Youporn.

Even then I'd probably still back Hamilton.


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mid-table
I hadn't checked the market since Sunday, as I expected Hamilton to be at least 1/8, I can't understand why he is 4/7 in most places.

What am I missing here, why is Rebecca Adlington such a short price? Has she got a big family that can vote lots of times?
Frank Booth
Since I placed my bet last night Bet365 have cut their odds from 8/15 to 4/9 ohmy.gif
dubs
If only I had significant funds, never seen a bigger certainty.

Any-wan fancy goin 'haffers'
Naught A Chance
QUOTE (dubs @ Nov 7 2008, 12:26) *
If only I had significant funds, never seen a bigger certainty.

Any-wan fancy goin 'haffers'


how much is "haffers" dry.gif
Baiggers
£144 on Chris Hoy for a top 3 finish @ 1.3

Surely?
H_B
Mmm, something smells a bit funny here.

I too thought Hamilton would be unbackable. I'm following the "too good to be true" principle and steerring clear.
Baiggers
QUOTE (H_B @ Nov 7 2008, 21:48) *
Mmm, something smells a bit funny here.

I too thought Hamilton would be unbackable. I'm following the "too good to be true" principle and steerring clear.


I can see what you're saying but I've gone for a single on Hamilton. It'll be a sore one if he doesn't win it although I'll get over it eventually whereas I'll probably be more pissed off with myself if he wins it and I don't get a slice of the pie.
fanny paddery
QUOTE (Baiggers @ Nov 7 2008, 22:03) *
I can see what you're saying but I've gone for a single on Hamilton. It'll be a sore one if he doesn't win it although I'll get over it eventually whereas I'll probably be more pissed off with myself if he wins it and I don't get a slice of the pie.

Ive followed the same pronciple and last night got him at 4/7 with paddy power, came bacl on this morning and he is now 4/11. He has also shortened with most other bookmakers so if this keeps happening there will be the opportunity to lay him.

However 1 other point, his odds have drifted on betfair, i wonder if someone on there knows something.

The only other thought i had was that if people have significant money on hamilton, surely they will vote, thus then shortening his chances again :s
Diamonds are Forever
The fact that everyone thinks he is a certaintly is would could f**k it up. People who want him to win might not vote because they think that he will win anyway so think there's no point.
the_russian
Is Joe Calzaghe out the question?
fanny paddery
QUOTE (the_russian @ Nov 10 2008, 11:24) *
Is Joe Calzaghe out the question?

Hes best avaliable at 50/1, i think retaining it tho is unheard of so it would be very unlikely!
Skyline Drifter
QUOTE (mid-table @ Nov 7 2008, 01:47) *
What am I missing here, why is Rebecca Adlington such a short price? Has she got a big family that can vote lots of times?

Mmm, just a thought but do you think the fact she's a double olympic gold medalist might have something to do with it? unsure.gif

To be honest I won't be voting, but if I were I'd vote Adlington (or Hoy) ahead of Hamilton. Their achievements were much greater.
Napoli1881
Hamilton is a stick on for SPotY, so probably £25 on him for that.

Murray at 40/1? I think I'll check his each way betting, as I think he'll be top three.
Frank Booth
QUOTE (Skyline Drifter @ Nov 10 2008, 12:25) *
Mmm, just a thought but do you think the fact she's a double olympic gold medalist might have something to do with it? unsure.gif


And yet Chris Hoy, a triple gold medalist, is longer odds than her.

Nothing to do with him not being English perchance?...
blue4578
Medals in cycling are easier to win than in swimming, whichever way you look at it. No British woman had won Olympic swimming gold since 1960, no British man since 1988.

Chris Hoy would be a very deserving winner if he were to win, but it's highly unlikely IMO.
Diamonds are Forever
QUOTE (Napoli1881 @ Nov 12 2008, 11:40) *
Hamilton is a stick on for SPotY, so probably £25 on him for that.

Murray at 40/1? I think I'll check his each way betting, as I think he'll be top three.


On sporting acheivement I think Murray should be up there. However, can you really see anyone voting for him? He's not exactly Mr Popular, especially down south. For that reason I doubt he will get anywhere near it.
H_B
QUOTE (Skyline Drifter @ Nov 10 2008, 12:25) *
To be honest I won't be voting, but if I were I'd vote Adlington (or Hoy) ahead of Hamilton. Their achievements were much greater.


I agree. I don't even think it's that close.
drs
People who vote for this are normally middle class people from the South of England so the top three will be in order:

Hamilton
Adlington
Hoy
Napoli1881
QUOTE (Frank Booth @ Nov 12 2008, 17:25) *
And yet Chris Hoy, a triple gold medalist, is longer odds than her.

Nothing to do with him not being English perchance?...



Chris Hoy for a good each-way bet?

Have to agree that if he'd been English, the London based media would be licking his ball's right now dry.gif
fanny paddery
QUOTE (Napoli1881 @ Nov 24 2008, 11:26) *
Chris Hoy for a good each-way bet?

Have to agree that if he'd been English, the London based media would be licking his ball's right now dry.gif


Odds for hoy to finish in the top 3 are 3/10
The Poker King
Lewis Hamilton is still available at 8/15 on Bluesq ohmy.gif
fanny paddery
QUOTE (The Poker King @ Nov 24 2008, 14:42) *
Lewis Hamilton is still available at 8/15 on Bluesq ohmy.gif

8/13 on stan james
freedomwriter
when is it
mid-table
He was 8/11 on betfair last night.
Chris Hoy's price has come down, don't know if anyone's seen the trailers for it but they are using a lot of footage of him.
dubs
Can anyone genuinely say they believe Lewis Hamilton will NOT win this?

I'm going to enquire at my local Ladbrokes tonight and if Mr. Hamilton is anything like 1/2 I will be on him like flies on shit.

He'll probably be about 1/4 laugh.gif
blue4578
As I said further up the thread, the BBC will be showing loads of Olympic highlights in the run up to the vote, with very little of the F1. That will influence the voting to some degree. Personally I wouldn't back Hamilton at odds on, you should've taken the odds against quotes before he won the F1 Championship.
fanny paddery
QUOTE (blue4578 @ Nov 24 2008, 17:32) *
As I said further up the thread, the BBC will be showing loads of Olympic highlights in the run up to the vote, with very little of the F1. That will influence the voting to some degree. Personally I wouldn't back Hamilton at odds on, you should've taken the odds against quotes before he won the F1 Championship.

I agree with this blue, however bbc have got the rights for the f1 championship next year having paid alot of money to get it back after 10 years of itv. This could mean it is slighlty in the intrests of the bbc for hamilton to win, as for the bbc there is no benefit in an olympian winning it for another 4 years, however hamiltons victory could benefit them starting march.
blue4578
That's irrelevant. The problem is that ITV own the rights to all of the coverage of this year's championship, so any footage the BBC show will have to have "courtesy of ITV" in the corner and will have to be paid for. Whereas the BBC have hundreds of hours of Olympic coverage to show. Don't forget all of the hysteria and hype when the Olympic team returned to the UK.

Regardless of all those issues, there are a lot of people who believe that Hoy and Adlington are more worthy winners anyway. Hamilton competed in a sport this year where it was virtually impossible for anyone outside the four Ferrari and McClaren drivers to win the championship.

I'm not having any bets on this either way, but for those people who think Hamilton winning is easy money, they could well be in for a nasty shock when the results are read out. I remember a few years ago, I was on Paris to win the Olympic bid. Right up until the last moments, Paris was a huge favourite. I was on at 11/10 from about a year previously, but they were 1/4 with 24 hours to go. Then Jacques Chirac criticised Finnish food (3 of the IOC delegates came from Finland), while Tony Blair did a good job persuading the IOC delegates to vote for London. I was probably the only person in England hoping that Jacques Rogge would say Paris when he opened the envelope laugh.gif

My point is that when you're betting on a vote, rather than a sporting event that you can watch unfold, you're at the mercy of hidden agendas and strange goings on. It wasn't too long ago that the fishing community organised a mass vote for Bob Nudd to win SPOTY. By all accounts, he received more votes than everyone else put together, but the BBC decided to disqualify him because it would've made them look silly. There was a similar campaign for Peter Crouch one year when he was looking useless. That's one reason they're using sports journalists to pick a 10 person shortlist now.
G_Man1985
Chris will win it. The thing with hamilton there was a few races he f#cked up on and well chris didnt at all, he won fairly easy, i cant believe how many people have put bets on hamilton to win it, me being a novice at betting i wont bother but i would of thought if anyone did bet one someone it would be chris to win it.
Eugene Rose
Strongly fancy Hoy for this 1, and will be betting him on Thursday when I have a good wad of cash. When is it this gets drawn?
Baiggers
QUOTE (Eugene Rose @ Nov 24 2008, 21:46) *
Strongly fancy Hoy for this 1, and will be betting him on Thursday when I have a good wad of cash. When is it this gets drawn?


Sunday 14th December.

I've got £324 on Hoy to be top 3 at odds of 1.3 which I am fairly comfortable with. Also got £250 on Hamilton to win outright which I'm starting to get very edgy about, unfortunately I took the price of 1.5 and this seems to have risen when I think most thought it may go down. If I had the opportunity to trade it off at 1.5 then I think I would do that, I hate waiting so long for bets to be settled mad.gif
Loki
Lewis Hamilton was odds on last year to win the crown as well, and just about everyone was surprised when Calzaghe won the prize. I agree with Blue, considering it is a public vote and can easily be manipulated, the odds on Hamilton aren't that sensational.
fanny paddery
Hamilton has drifted big time and is still drifting further, with some sites he is no longer the fav !!!! ohmy.gif ohmy.gif
blue4578
I did try to warn everyone. Rebecca Adlington is a warm favourite now. Hamilton has been layed at 11/8 on Betfair lately.

I should've taken my own advice and layed Hamilton sub 1.5 but never mind laugh.gif
fanny paddery
QUOTE (blue4578 @ Dec 5 2008, 16:24) *
I did try to warn everyone. Rebecca Adlington is a warm favourite now. Hamilton has been layed at 11/8 on Betfair lately.

I should've taken my own advice and layed Hamilton sub 1.5 but never mind laugh.gif


13/8 avaliable now
faddythedaddy
Bucked the trend and went with a £50 free bet on Adlington at 2.26
sergie's no1 fan
Hamilton now 2/1 on bet 365

holy f**k Tom, how much did you stick on him? i hope he wins it!!
blue4578
Hamilton has touched about 3.7 to win this in the past week, but has come in a bit to about 3.2 now. Adlington has been matched at around 1.85/1.86, which I can't help thinking is a bit short. Wish I'd got involved in this market early on, could've made a killing laying Hamilton early and either backing him this week or laying Adlington.

Will be interesting to see what happens. It's a shame that the BBC don't reveal the number of votes each person receives on the night though.
fanny paddery
QUOTE (blue4578 @ Dec 9 2008, 22:43) *
Hamilton has touched about 3.7 to win this in the past week, but has come in a bit to about 3.2 now. Adlington has been matched at around 1.85/1.85, which I can't help thinking is a bit short. Wish I'd got involved in this market early on, could've made a killing laying Hamilton early and either backing him this week or laying Adlington.

Will be interesting to see what happens. It's a shame that the BBC don't reveal the number of votes each person receives on the night though.

cant help thinking hamilton could still win it, adlington is too short, maybe the best value bet left is hoy?
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