Think you've made a mistake in presuming that half of what Beyemystic says is logical/factual

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QUOTE (Pink Freud @ Nov 6 2008, 15:29)

And of course you can speak for every Irishman that fought can you? Obviously those dastardly British saved a special place in hell for the Irish.
The Aussies and Kiwis had a lovely long summer holiday at Gallipoli didn't they? The Somme and Ypres were holiday camps for the British and Canadians.
Exactly. Trying to claim that Irishmen were deliberately put into the worst it if, while everyone else lived a life of luxury, is nonsense. Especially since (in Beyemysticland), Britain loves the Ulsterman. The Irish soldiers has a terrible time, but so did everyone else - regardless of religion or nationality.
QUOTE (Pink Freud @ Nov 6 2008, 15:29)

Where I would agree with you is that the war itself was none of the business of Joe Public. In fact it hastened the end of the British Empire, which just about everyone would acknowledge as a good thing.
Not really IMO. The British Empire actually grew during the 1920s, after the war, although it is true to say that self-rule (
colonialism, in contemporary speak) replaced centralised-rule (
imperialism), as the doctrine of choice. Undeniably, World War
Two marked the beginning of the end of Empire.
QUOTE (Pink Freud @ Nov 6 2008, 15:29)

As for your NATO comment, that is ludicrous. Ireland has been clever and sensible about not being involved with NATO, but I think we both know why. Until recently as a country it had far more important things to spend money on than an overdeveloped standing army to be sent hither and thither on a whim. Ireland's close relationship with the USA would more than compensate for any dealings with the old foe.
Speaking of which, are you saying that it is more difficult for the Irish to forgive the British than it is for the British, French, Dutch, Belgians etc. to forgive Germany?
Of course, some people argue eire shelters under NATO's umbrella, but without contributing to it...