Are Queens fans now starting to get a bit twitchy.Will he,won't he????

My opinion is that if Dundee and Queens can agree a compensation figure and Chisholm is offered the job, then he would accept.

maybe but only if he gets the promise of some dosh in january?

If he goes he goes, it`s part and parcel of modern day football. Don`t know what the big attraction would be with Dundee though. They are, after all, just another run of the mill 1st division club.

Now would be a good time to leave Queens because I feel he has taken them as far as he can. Go now and remain a legend?

Im amazed with all the threads and posts by Dundee fans talking about Chis for Dens that not one of them has mentioned him being a failed United manager. Thought that would be the last thing they wanted.

He saved them from relegation. That's not being a failure, IMO.

He'd be aff his nut to take it but if he does I'll bet he's a disaster and the Dee will be searching for a new boss for next season's Brasso-laden Championship winning season in the first division.

I think Chisholm would be making a wise choice to remain at Queens.

I doubt it. Queens are in a better position and have a far superior chance of getting promoted than Dundee. He would have to rebuild the Dundee teams confidence then start getting points on the board. If it came in the summer and both were still in the 1st then I think he would go.

It was more the effect of his honeymoon period that saved them I thought. Being sacked about 8 months later after less than a year in the job suggests failure to me Muggy.

Despite his record, surely the simple fact he is an ex United manager would make him a no go for Dens?

I would like to see him at Dens again, but I dont think It will happen.

Jimmy Nicoll would be a good shout IMO.

Must be tempting to leave Queens at this point, simply because he hasn't put a foot wrong and his stock is at an all time high. Many managers have made the mistake of staying at clubs when bigger teams are poking around (in Saints' case, Alex Rennie and Sandy Clark), and been sacked within 24 months.

But I can't see why he'd go to Dundee, where expectations far outweigh potential.

Owen Coyle took Saints to second in the league and a Scottish Cup semi and got a lucrative job down south as a reward; Chisholm (top of the league and a Scottish Cup finalist on a smaller budget) would surely be forgiven for reckoning he's worth just as much, if I were him I'd sit for a while and see if bigger fish than Dundee come looking. There's got to be interest.

I can see your point but I genuinely believe Chisholm can take Queens to the SPL if they get the ground in place. At the risk of offending the Doonhamers, that's probably as far as he could take them but there's still enough to keep him at Palmerston for now if he so desires IMO.

Despite what Muggy says, I don't think he was a great success at United and he probably wouldn't get another chance at that level if he fails at Dundee, so it's a gamble on that front as well. Look at the great job John Connolly did with Queens but he's never recovered from his time with Saints, although I appreciate age wasn't on his side. So, does Chisholm hold off in hope of a move to an Aberdeen-like club, or does he make a smaller step up the ladder to Dundee in the meantime?

I'd love him to stay at Queens, would really show his passion for that team that he clearly loves.

Oi, you cant that these days Radders! Nothing wrong with being, er, em, over 35!

Do we honestly believe Chis is even an option for Dundee?

He saved them from relegation, which was a fantastic achievement. I think Dundee Utd fans will testify that he did a good job there. He has done tremendous for Queens, and the fact he is an ex-arab means nothing really. He was a Dundee player before, and would be welcomed back. It's a difficult job though, so it would be a massive gamble.

I honestly think if offered the post, that he will take it. He will see it as a challenge. Take over at a struggling club( not that their that bad really) and using his managerial skills get them into the SPL.This maybe a final stepping stone to a big job.

hope he stays

Jimmy Nicholl is the man we need.

but Rae shouldn't have been sacked.

What if he brought Doddsy as his number two Muggy??? Would you still boycott ????

Yep, I agree and if he was to fail at Dens he would probably get the sympathy vote...look at the mess they were in when he took over,etc etc

Dundee; uncertain financial future, in somewhat of a turmoil, bigger expectations and thus more pressure

QOTS; firm financial footing, doing very well and in with a chance of the league, no massive expectations and no real pressure.


It would be wise to remain at QOTS really.

That's a good point though. Maybe he feels that he'll be able to walk away from Dens relatively clean if things don't work out, claiming he was never given the financial backing required to be a success. Dundee have pretty much done away with a lot of their youth system so there are no more Kevin McDonald's likely to break through in the next few years and Chisholm would maybe feel it was a no lose situation.

I think Ghostie's question is hard to answer though. You could debate all night the pros and cons of the move.

That is a bold statement. Expact pelters.

Can I nominate Jocky Scott for the job? Please?

arab in disguise

His acceptance of the post would almost completely be down to weather or not Bennet has control of the club. It's a known fact they are friends from his United days, and with a chairman he could trust with funds and opinions.

IMO Queens are a well run club but they are most likely a yoyo club at best, with an attendance that would peak at 5k in the SPL. Chisolm has done wonders, no doubt, but is there much more he could realistically do? There is 5 clubs in this league capable of being SPL regulars, but Queens I don't think are one.

how would dundee be able to afford the compenstion? . for the record its an obvious choice-remain at queens. dundee are a sinking ship and are going nowhere whereas queens could be going places.

On what basis?

Have you looked at the league table? Queens have made a terrific start and Chisholm's record is impeccable, but Dundee are only 6 points off the pace - far more insurmountable leads have been clawed back years previous.

For what it's worth I don't think Chis should accept the offer, going by his record he could better. He took Queens into Europe, doesn't get much better than that. If I were him I would hold out for an SPL job, anywahere in the top 4 for Queens this season would be seen as yet another achievement for Chis. Anything short of first place at Dundee would be seen as a failure.

Seconded.





Was that a sensible post from Savo?

Delusions of grandeur from some dundee fans. In the majority of cases, a manager will move for a big wage increase. Nothing to do with the ''challenge''

Chisholm would be absolutely bonkers to move, as much as i'd like to see it.

The other options (and some touted on other fourms) appear to be:

Billy Dodds - Why replace one ex hun with no managerial experience with another?
John McCormack - Cant cut it in even lower leagues than ours FFS
Jocky Scott - A Dens legend, but repeatedly bringing him back when we're in the shit isnt a solution, and has been poorly treated by the club in the past
Ian McCall - I'd have him back, but again very unlikely, and a large section of Dundee's more narrow minded support would be against him from the off.
Dave Baikie - someone seriously suggested this on the club website
Jimmy Nicholl - Raith Rovers in the early 90s is a long, long time ago. Can he still do it?
Steve Frail - Harshly treated at Hearts. Appears to be able to command respect of players, so a possibe.

Other mentioned include ....

Steve Campbell
Ray Farningham
Temuri Ketsbaia

Totally agree Radford. He took charge for the cup final which Ian McCall led them to and as for Billy Dodds and his ''100% record'', a win at home against Falkirk, HOLY f**k!!! The guy is clearly the next Mourinho.

I don't think that anyones mentioned that Chisholm was a Dundee player....

Well said.

Are you feeling alright? That was quite a good, sensible post from you.

What contract is Chisholm on anyway? I heard he is only on a 1 yr rolling contract.

I think Chisholm could implement the model he has in place at Queens with his enterprising Weeg based training system. Keep the players away from the fans and the board during the week would help settle them and he could then chip away at the confidence problems away from the glare of the international media.

That being said what is Chisholm's contract situation?. I notice AR was on a 12 month rolling contract which wouldn't be THAT much to settle.

I think from memory, Chisholm signed a 2 year deal abiout 6 weeks ago. Can't be bothered looking through the OS archives. The deal was signed around the time of the Nordsjaelland away leg

Cant see GC leaving Queens

The main reason for going would be the absence of any definite plans by us to bring the ground up to SPL standards. Whether or not we have any chance of winning the league is a moot point, but as things stand we couldn't be promoted anyway whereas Dundee could.
Basically, Dundee have a better chance of getting to the SPL sooner than us.
Therefore, if he is being paid more at Dundee, he'd be daft not to go.
IMO he is a decent manager, but by no means brilliant. I'd be more upset at Dobbie leaving than him going.

The stadium issue is the first thing I thought of as a possible deciding factor. Have Queens said anything at all about what their plans are if they win the league?

There was something in the local paper a few weeks ago. Nothing concrete just the usual plans are being discussed etc

Has he? He's just continued the steady progession that Queens have been making over the last few years. Yes, he got to a Cup Final, but the Aberdeen game was the only game where they won but weren't expected to. I'm not saying he hasn't done a good job, he has, but he hasn't worked wonders by any means.

We've been going backwards since Connolly left and only narrowly avoided relegation in the last two seasons under McCall, and less narrowly the year before under Scott.

Not disagreeing with the gist of your point, I dont think Chisholm has necessarily "worked wonders" either, but I dont think you can describe what came before as "steady progression".

Agree with most of that, especially the second part.

Excluding the worst case scenario of our replacement being an absolute disaster, I don't think too many Queens fans would actually be devastated in seeing Chis leave. Yes the achievements made by the club under him are unprecedented, but some of his selection and tactical decisions still confuse the fans to this day. He has also signed what is in my eyes the strongest ever Queen of the South squad, and has vastly reduced the average age of the team as well. Who's to say that another manager won't be able to get the same, or even more out of what is clearly a talented squad.

I still very much hope he stays, but if he doesn't we are still in a great position both financially and personnel-wise, which would surely make us an attractive proposition for would-be replacements.

1st Choice: Jocky Scott
2nd Choice: Barry Smith WITH an experienced Assistant Manager.

Seemingly Barry Smith heard about Rae's departure and was straight onto the phone declaring his interest also with the paper stating that Dundee have already had a few phone calls backs this claim up slightly.

As for Chis i'd take him in an instant and he'd come to us in an instant however unless John Bennett has some involvement regarding compensation I can't see it happening.

Chisholm is on a 3 year deal for thos interested.