Can't really say I'm surprised by this one after his omission yesterday.

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Well, if the guy doesn't want to fight for his place then he can get to f**k as far as I'm concerned .

Don't see all these headlines about him not wanting to play for Walter Smith when he's continually on the bench at Ibrox.

Whether you agree he should have played yesteday or not, to throw the toys out of the pram like this is a disgrace.

Bye bye Boyd, dont let the door hit your erse on the way out

Got to agree WBIG. Boyd should take a lesson from Ally McCoist, who sat on the bench under Souness, retained his dignity and fought his way back into the team.

Any player who refuses to play for his country, for whatever reason, should never be allowed near a squad ever again.

until there is quotes i am not going to comment on this.

Thank f**k. Boyd is shite!

I don#t support Rangers before anyone attempts the closet Hun remarks.

Why would Kris Boyd take 3-4 days out of his training schedule, fighting for his place with Rangers with a boss who wants to sell him, to play for George Burley who has said almost as good as that he doesn't rate Boyd? So even if I don;t support it I understand Boyd's decision. Why would he take days off from Rangers to warm the bench with no chance of getting on the park?

Now I support George Burley, I think he was the right (only) choice and it would be bizarre to sack him after 3 competitive games, but King James McFadden looked pretty pissed off at being brought off yesterday and if he gives up international football under Burley then so do I.

Tell us then what else he has to do to prove his worth to any team. 7 goals in 15 caps, 142 goals in 199 club appearences.

He is scotlands best striker, fact.

It was an absolute disgrace he never came on, even for the final 10minutes and i said this yesterday and i'm not suprised and i really dont blame him at all. To bring on two players with 1 cap and only 45 minutes first team international experience together and leave your best finisher on the bench who would have put that chance Iwelumo had away is an absoultely crazy decision and Burley paid the price for it by losing the best striker in our country.

I'm not saying i'm happy with Boyd not wanting to be selected as i want to see Scotland in SouthAfrica so much its unbelievable but lets face it, if we're 0-0 at Home against, lets face it, an average team and our manager overlooks our best striker for two rookies then we're never going to get the chance of a few goals to win us the vital points we need.

What about David Weir, who turned out to be an absolute cornerstone of the team during the Euro 2008 qualifying?

Spot on, we all want to be in South Africa and no one who supports Scotland can seriously be happy if this is true, regardless what the reasons are.

David Weir should not have been recalled either. I agree he was superb when he did come back BUT the principle is much more important. Another central defender would have played in Weir's position and could/would have performed just a valiantly.

It was the same with Richard Gough. Craig Brown was correct not to recall him after Gough had snubbed Andy Roxburgh - despite a huge campaign by the Scottish media for him to reconsider. Brown took us to numerous Euro/World Cup finals minus Gough.

Like whom? Please don't say Russell Anderson or Lee Wilkie. I think each case should be taken on its merits, I thought Weir had legitimate cause to not want to work for Vogts again, but I've yet to decide on Boyd.

I don't normally give backing to players who throw the toys out of the pram.

However in this case, I can fully understand Boyd's frustration. Burley's management skills in terms of how he handles players are in question, and I held this view long before yesterday.

That doesn't mean much, seeing as theres not a footballer alive who'd have missed that (other than Iwelumo).

It;s strange that this comes after Lee McCulloch retiring.I also see that Kenny Miller will be fit for the next Rangers game maybe Rangers are still in the cream puff with the SFA.
The biggest loser out of all this is Iwelumo who Burley has thrust into the limelight too quickly.

You're on to a point. I don't understand why Burley can't get the best out of James McFadden like McLeish and Smith did. McFadden for Scotland is starting to look like the heidless chicken role he played in his younger years and which frustrated Everton fans for so long.

I do hope Iwelumo doesn't get the reception Gary McAllister got, it was a royal cock up, but these things happen in football and he won't be single handedly responsible if we don't make it to 2010.

A HUN walks out on Scotland , a well, at least he is at the right club traitors fc, no doubt fellow traitors Smith,Mccoist,Mccolluc tried to talk him out of it

Fat dick , am no sittin on the bench fur ma kuntry, but i'l dae it fur ra gers, two face p***k

We can't say anything until there are some quotes here to be fair, but if this is true, then f**k him. I would have started him yesterday, and I was shocked when Iwelumo and Fletcher were sent on ahead of him, but that doesn't mean he should chuck it.

Apart from the fact it cost us 2 points and makes it very tricky to get to the world cup now leaving us with no room for error. 12 points out of 15 is a must, anything less and we'll have no chance.



Coming from a fan of the club who refused to release their players for international duty to instead play in a totally irrelevent friendly at the end of the season.

The current Rangers players remind me of the Liverpool Scots in the 70's who regularly managed to be injured just before international matches. Alan Hansen in particular has only a handful of caps which were spread over a considerable number of years.

It's a bit early to criticise Boyd though as at present it is just paper talk. If he has made that statement though I'd expect a transfer request from him to leave Rangers. If not then he operates double standards.

Anyway too many prima donnas among players these days. It is an honour just to be in the squad as far as I'm concerned especially players who don't get a regular starting spot with their clubs.

Who knows? Personally I think Russell Anderson (or some other defender) could have done a job for Scotland during that period. Sometimes it's only when players are thrust into the national squad that they flourish and surprise us all, e.g. Broadfoot, Hutton etc. Steven Pressley always performed heroics for Scotland, often surpassing his club form.

I repeat...it is the principle which matters above all. No player is bigger than the team / country - as Gough discovered to his cost. I truly hope Boyd doesn't make the same mistake, because I think he has a part to play for Scotland.

Rangers Football Club should be in the 'Cream Puff' with the SFA!! The way they were treated towards the end of the season by Burley and the SFA was disgraceful!!

Anyway so far Burley has said that the truly awful pairing of McManus/Caldwell will be his 1st picks as 38 year old Weir pulled out of a friendly. He brought Rangers player Kirk Broadfoot into the team then publicly ridiculed him by saying he was a player of limited ability. He has now taken Boyd away from Ibrox to go with Scotland squads but yesterday said playing Boyd was not an option as he cant even get a game at Ibrox!! Burley is a manager of limited ability and was on his way to the sack at Southampton before The SFA approached him!!

Walter Smith should be having a word with this clown before he is loaned any more Rangers employees. To be perfectly honest it is time we withdrew all our players from this utter shambles of a team!! What yesterday proved beyond any doubt is Scotland need Rangers a helluva lot more than our players need Scotland!!

And Seamus..FFS There is a week to go until Rangers next game!! Of course there is a chance Miller will be fit!!

If this is true (and it might well be shite), Boyd can go fcuk himself. Nothing like people standing up and being counted when your country needs you. Lazy b*****d in training too apparently, could do with a shift in attitude?

Boyd doesn't train hard enough apparently, so Burley will obviously doesn't think he has the mandatory 'dig' 'passion' 'Braveheart spirit' 'wears his heart in his sleeve' mentality that all Scottish players have to have to replace the severe lack of technical ability.

Heard a radio call to Jim Traynor last night saying that Jimmy Greaves just scored goals, as did Gerd Muller, and I've read that Mark Hughes was terrible at training, but did the business on a Saturday. I'd have Boyd starting every week for Rangers alongside Miller, but obviously Smith, and Burley are of the old school 'if you can't sprint 50 yards in X amount of time you aren't playing'.

For me Boyd is a tad too arrogant, almost Marco Negri-esque, he knows he is good enough to score, so feels why do I need to train, I should be playing by right of who I am. If Boyd actually moved his arse a bit more he would get a game, otherwise he is going to waste his talent like Negri did.

Hansen was kept out of the team by the Aberdeen defence of Leighton in goals with Miller and Mcleish playing as centre back...back up to them would be Dave Narey and Paul Hegarty. This is the reason Hansen has so few caps...Dalglish has more caps than any other Scot FFS

What we would do for either of those centre-back partnerships now!

Hansen refused to play a particular holding position for Jock Stein (forcing Willie Miller to play it instead at the last minute) and then failed to follow tactical instructions during an international match, was hooked at half-time and never played again. Thus began the defensive partnership of McLeish/Miller which served us so well.

If anything, it proves my earlier point. No individual is bigger than the team. Hansen was a great player but his arrogance was his downfall. Hansen was probably a better defender than McLeish but his attitude opened the door for Big Eck, and the rest is history.

Hello folks, quality forum, not searched too deep but the bile seems limited on first impression.

As for Boyd, he is entitled to feel he is not getting a crack of the whip, but probably best not to throw the toys out the pram - playing for your county is bigger than that and it's worth sucking it up before burning your bridges. Burley seems to have some kind of clumsy habit of making throw-away comments that piss his players off, I personally don't think that's something Scotland can afford as we need ALL our players pulling in the same direction. Whilst not one to pander to the ego's of over-hyped over-paid occasional bams who wouldn't know a hard days work if it smacked them in the coupan, that's the lay of the land in professional football, so that's something Burley has to manage.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/i...als/7665985.stm

That's my point, if Boyd goes to Burley and says he is no happy about not getting selected, and Burley replies with what he said to chick young, then fair enough. But Burley (basically) denigrated his player in the press to defend his own team selection. If that was my gaffer, I would be having words (with added industrial language).

I repeat, Boyd is wrong to chuck it no matter what.

The next manager shouldn't pick him either. He has walked out on his country, he should not be welcomed back in any circumstances.

"I will not be playing for George Burley again, but I hope to be back in a Scotland jersey again one day."

I can't really slag the guy, as i've done the same thing. If you hate your boss, then the best thing is to resign and go somewhere else.

Burley's style of man management doesn't seem to be working very well. At the moment he's looking like Bertie Mk II.

I can see where Boyd is coming from, he has the right to be a bit miffed.

I do, however, think it is wrong to say he won't play again under Burley and to throw your toys out the pram.

Doesn't matter though because Burley will be out on his arse soon enough, it already looks as though he has lost the dressing room, the one which almost took us to the EURO's.

Also, why did Steven Fletcher get on before Clarkson?

Can the rest of the Rangers players chuck Scotland too please? It will keep them fit for the league, and cup games.

Let Burley call up all these diddys like Morrison, Steven Fletcher, and Darren Fletcher.

Boyd has shot to 'fame' too quickly and needs to realise he's not as good as he and a lot of people think he is. Fair enough he's scored 7 goals but would you say his competitive goals against the Faroes, Georgia and Lithuania were against top class teams?

McFadden deserves his status after super goals against the big guns (France, Holland, Ukraine...) but Boyd still needs to prove himself and accept he's not the only one in a queue of players waiting to do the same. What makes him so special that he should automatically pushed to the front of the queue? Fair enough, he's at Rangers but even the Scotland fringe players at Championship level are testing themselves against tougher opposition most weeks. Rangers couldn't even beat St Mirren last week FFS.

He needs to look himself in the mirror and accept that he needs to work harder. Does it not cross his mind that the reason he's not an automatic choice with Burley is that he's the laziest player in training ? (according to Darren Fletcher on Soccer AM yesterday morning). Boyd needs to up his work ethic, stop throwing his toys out the pram and take his boss' choices like a man. He's been in an environment where he's thought he's better than everyone else since he was at Killie and it's an attitude that obviously going to cost him dear.

Rangers striker Kris Boyd has told BBC Scotland he will not play for Scotland again under manager George Burley.


Stating the obvious Kris considering we all know he thinks you are a lazy b*****d!

Does anyone else get the impression that Boyd is deluding himself? Both his club and country managers don't rate him enough to start him and yet its their problem??. I think the problem lies a little closer to home. Grow up ya big jessie.

Just what I was trying to get across. He's been a big fish (if that?) in a small pond for too long and isn't quite ready to be thrown into the ocean in his manager's eye.

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100% with him here, f**k Burley and f**k Wattie, they won't play him he should rightly refuse, he tries to get in the Rangers side, his goals to game ratio is pretty immense. Boyd - League Apps 235 Goals 117 - International 15 apps 7 goals

Usually I;d be fuming at a player but this time I understand and I am 100% with him.

100%

Boyd can get to f**k then. Burley obviously thought it was best for the team if Boyd didn't get a game. Boyd should go out and work harder on the training field to prove him wrong not go in a hissy fit like this.
No player is bigger than the country.

Cant believe those of you who are semi-defending him and laying into Burley for his team selections.

If he had brought on Boyd and Boyd had missed that chance you'd be blaming him and the manager for his selection. If he'd brought on Clarkson instead of Fletcher and we'd drawn 0-0 the everyone would've been blaming the manager.

He brought on Iwelumo and Fletcher who both did well. Iwelumo missed a sitter - not the first sitter anyone's ever missed and not the last, very unfortunate and frustrating circumstances I admit.

I WANT Boyd to be the spearhead of a free-scoring Scotland attack as much as anyone, but what he's done today has changed my opinion of him. I knew he was a bit arrogant but I always argued he knows how to score goals so let him do it his way.

Now I feel about Boyd the way I do about McGeady. Im not interested.

Amen. A sheer lack of respect for his manager, team-mates and nation.

You play for the country, not the manager. I hope he never gets selected again, unprofessional c**t who should feel honoured to have played any part in the national set up.

I usually hate to see a reaction like this. It generally smacks of petulance and arrogance.
In this instance, I'd still prefer he didn't take this action, but I do sympathise with the impulse.
Yesterday was crying out for his involvement and he really must despair of where things are heading for him.
If this sort of action hastens the end for Burley, I'm afraid I'm right behind it.

Would I be looking into it too deeply if I thought that Boyd's sudden decision has something to do with the fact that he genuinely thinks he won't get to play in the next world cup (his first one) and therefore where's the point in bothering? Nothing at all to do with his decision???

He doesn`t want to play then fine. As for Burley he comes across as a man who can lay the blame for problems anywhere but at his own door. Tactically clueless. Let`s play 2 wide men in Morrison and Maloney but complicate things even more by starting both on the left, Robson on the right and leave Fletcher and Brown to be swamped in midfield. Even when we get the ball wide there`s nobody in the box to deliver it to so we turn back, lose possession endlessly and get deeper and deeper handing the initiative to a very average Norway team. Clueless Burley.

Watching and listening this last week it sounds very much as if Burley is having problems managing the dressing room, if not lost it already. As today's Sunday Mail says "all week the argument was raging, at kick off the argument was raging, at half time it continued and at 35 minutes it re-ignited. Nine minutes from the end it stopped....Boyd would have scored." Whether you like the guy or not, Boyd does score for Scotland, he does score for Rangers, he can find the net at Hampden (CIS, Scottish Cup), he should have been playing yesterday.

It seems to me, listening to Burley recently, that he's had Boyd in the squad - "because he couldn't (politically?) leave him out" and his comment to Chick Young yesterday seemed to confirm that, because if he REALLY feels that Boyd should "prove himself with Rangers first" then what the hell is he doing with him in the squad in the first place? Burley's comments seemed to suggest that there was no way Kris Boyd was going to get on yesterday, no matter what.

I'm no fan of players flouncing off in a huff, but in this case I wholeheartedly agree with Boyd. Burley has told him "he needs to prove himself with Rangers first" (via the media....), so Boyd has simply taken the guy at his word.... Why should he want to play for a guy who patently doesn't want him to be around?

Best result for both of them probably. Burley will no doubt be glad he no longer has to include Boyd in his squad.

Our loss however and I fear my holiday in South Africa 2010 won't involve the the World Cup.

Isn't playing reguarly for rangers, both fletcher and Iwelumo are playing reguarly for their clubs so its a fair point that burley has made there.

But saying that even being a sub and throwing him on for the last 10 mins or so of any game i would fancy kris boyd to nick a goal or at least have a chance in front of goal and the same cant be said for fletcher and Iwelumo.

Still spitting his dummy out is stupid..what kinda message does it send out to other managers and ofcourse the fans.

I can't blame him to be honest, I'd be pissed off if I was him too. He's the best finisher we've got and he didn't even get on yesterday when we were needing a goal. Instead, Burley threw on Iwelumo (untried) and Fletcher (International novice).

It'll be interesting to see if he tells Smith he's fed up being a bit part player at Rangers though.

I'm agreeing with Boyd on this one. Burley was a fuckin joke yesterday. 1 man up front at home? Boyd should've started with a man up front next to him. Taking Faddy off as well was a fuckin joke as well. And not even playing Boyd but chucking on 2 inexperienced strikers near the end with Iwelimu missing a complete sitter. A goal I could've scored with my knob.

Not convinced by Burley and think he should go. He's not good enough for this job.

Personally I'd start Kris Boyd every week for Rangers and Scotland. As many people say "all he does is score goals" - well, so what? What else did McCoist, Muller, Lineker and God knows how many others do?

However, this is completely the wrong attitude to take. I personally feel he has nothing to prove, so when the manager publically says the opposite you wonder where he's coming from. If Burley didn't rate him then why even stick him on the bench?! When Lee McCulloch said he didn't want to play again UNDER BURLEY I said he should never be picked again by any manager. As much as it pains me to say it the same should apply to Boyd.

Still, it make you wonder exactly what the hell is going on in the dressing room and the squad when players are so quick to walk out on Burley. Berti Mk II? I'm starting to wonder

I hope this story isn't true as Scotland cant afford players of Boyd's quality chucking it. In defence of the player, if Burley was never going to consider him until he establishes himself in the Rangers team why call him up in the first place?

Burley cost us two points ysterday with his poor tactics and even poorer substitutions. Rumours of unrest in the camp wont help and I do fear another Vogts era is upon us.