Could anyone give me anything positive about Kettlewell and tell me we're not throwing money away giving him a wage every week. I've seen him 10 times this season cant give him any more than 4 out of 10 and it's usually 2 or 3. Also Trouten who at the moment can't get a game he looks far to weak.

PLEASE GIVE ME SOMETHING POSITIVE

Fine, give us him back then.

Have him bloody back...in exchange for a set of those fabulous Irn Bru away strips.

I'd imagine that tactical genius John Brown has just told him to kick people rather than play any football.

He doesn't seem to get close enough to any opposition player to even do that.

This is ridiculous! Kettlewell, over the past four or five weeks, has performed steadily better and better. I don't know where to begin dealing with this unmerited criticism. The abuse he's been receiving is appalling also and it's certainly not of any benefit to the player!

Agreed. It is utterly ridiculous.

He has been finding his feet lately and to be quite honest he is making the best of a bad midfeild combo. Will be interesting to see him play alongside Marvin Wilson when he returns.

Yes, he did make an error yesterday, probably caused by the adverse conditions, however he made it in the middle of the park, so its not as if he was last man - not even close, however the defence completely failed to keep up with play and were punished. Our teutonic friend playing at left full back needed to have a good look at himself in that passage of play.

At a time we need to rally round the squad it appears folk have already made their minds up about him just a quarter into his first season and start less than helpfully titled threads than this.

Edit : Shocking spelling.

Yellow card for mentioning 'John Brown' and 'Tactical Genius' in the same thread!

Our midfield area does indeed look ropey. I don't know why Brown made him captain immediately - that must have piled on the pressure immediately. I'm guessing he won the captaincy in a long distance running competition, knowing Brown's emphasis on fitness...

The problem is that the defensive midfield area is often the focal point of a football team; thus he is under the microscope more than other players who are performing poorly. However, all too often his short passes find the opposition. I am willing to give him a chance, but at the moment he is performing below par. He is not alone in this.

I would personally play three men in the midfield and sacrifice a striker until he hits a bit of form. Stripping him of the captaincy might have an adverse effect (Brown's made a real rod for his own back by appointing a newcomer as captain!) so I'd keep him in that role.

My frustration with him is that he seems to hit form later on in games. If he was completely hopeless then fair enough, I'd just accept he wasn't up to scratch...but he seems to grow in stature after half-time. It's obvious there's a good player there, but we just aren't able to see it yet, whether it's through mismanagement or an absence of confidence.

The criticism of Kettlewell is unjust. He was far from our worst player out there at the weekend. Ricky Waddell didn't kick a ball on Saturday - oh no wait, he did. He stupidly kicked it away and deservedly got booked for it! And, as always, Michael was horrendous at left back.

If anyone gets sent packing to Queens Park then here's hoping it's Trouten! He gets brushed off the ball with alarming ease!!! And Bombscare McGregor scares the hell out of me at the back too. At least he gives you a solid shift though.

I have a very bad feeling that we will lose 3 or 4 nil when we go to Greenock. Still think we'll finish ahead of Airdrie though. If we're lucky we'll make history and be the first club to survive relegation two year running via the play-offs.

There, now how was that for an ultra negative post, albeit having a happy ending!

The players need time to settle to the level - only two years ago they were playing in the 3rd Division. Making Kettlewell captain has put him in the spotlight and that will put pressure on him, which I'm sure he can handle as he's a tough character and won't hide in games. Trouten might need more time to adjust but he's a quality player especially if there are physical players in the team to back him up.

Surely your joking, I was doing him a favour giving him 4 out of 10. I honestly dont see him getting any better, if coming up a division is catching him out then they need to strart him as sub bringing him on towards the end when the games opening up for him. McLennan and Wilson when fit are twice the players Kettlewell is at moment, and thats what Clyde need right now not someone we hear was good last year.

Your bold font makes your point more valid.

I suppose, seeing as we're a forgiving sort at QP, we could take the heap of shite off your hands.

Start another thread about Trouten and i'll see what we can do wi him.

Nice try, Kets is staying where he is. Marvyn Wilson will likely head for pastures new at the seasons end and Paul Elmslie is due to return to Ibrox in January. Kets and Ruari are hopefully here for the long-term. If Trouten hasn't worked his way back into the first team by Xmas, I'd allow him to leave on loan in Jan till the summer, and free up those wages for a young SPL winger who is desperate for a chance of first team football. (on loan for the same period obvisouly).

This is not an arse kicking contest he has been shocking so far and came with a big reputation. We are currently sitting 2nd bottom and he's playing in central midfield where the teams we are playing are at their strongest . Maybe he needs time but we just cant afford it. As for Trouten he hasn't played enough and had migrane problems for a couple of weeks but looks a bit weak. Hopefully the 2 of them will come good and I'll be the 1st on to tell you about them. Good luck to Queens this season.

I hope so too.

I only made the point because the Queen's support watched him week in, week out for years and know the kind of player he can be. He was the heartbeat of our team and it's strange to hear supporters of another team on here saying he's shite.

I'm not saying he's not been shite for Clyde, you've seen him more than i have this season. But he's certainly not a shite player.

I must admit i have been very disappointed in Kettlewell so far.
I was expecting a whole lot more from him than what he has shown so far. I can't agree that he gets better as the game goes on particularly if we are behind, with him being captain and the supposed heartbeat of the team in the middle of the park he should be pushing the team on but that isn't happening.
Perhaps he is still finding his feet or perhaps the captaincy is a burden to him i don't know but whatever the reason him and lot of our other players need to improve quickly or we are in big trouble.
I must admit i have given him some stick recently along with some of our other players, i know it is probably not the best thing to be doing but it is so frustrating watching such lacklustered performances and keeping your mouth shut.

Jesus christ

I think Kettlewell is good!! I seen him loads of times for us and he was always solid. He will surely come around for Clyde! What does everyone else think?

Give me SOMETHING!

Too reminiscent of Caley Thistle.

The proper QP jersey is the best going, IMO.

F**k me - it's Chris Aitken!

I have been dissapointed with him but really I have been dissapointed with the whole team so scapegoating him isnt fair. Very few players have performed well this season. He has probably been one of the better ones in recent weeks.

The real problem with us is our manager. He is a clueless twat and how Clyde fans can still stick up for him is beyond me.

I'm glad we didn't get Trouten. GIRUY!! Get Steven Lennon, he's a young SPL winger and great player.

We would take both Kettlewell and Trouten at the moment in exchange for Pat Scullion and Graeme Brown in fact you can have Ian Campbell and Andy Ferguson as well - hows about that for a bargain?

Tempting