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Grant228
Takes us up to third smile.gif
vikingTON
Clyde are being kept up solely by our own dazzling ineptitude.
Parscelona
A great result for us today considering last weekend's disappointment at Morton. It was important to win today's game, so i'm delighted that we got the three points, well done lads! biggrin.gif

So far so good this season, long may it continue. tongue.gif
Mon The Clyde
Kevin Harper is a diving cheat, that's all I'm going to say.
weigh cider
QUOTE (Mon The Clyde @ Oct 4 2008, 17:13) *
Kevin Harper is a diving cheat, that's all I'm going to say.



I give you Kettlewell, Gemmell et al at NB. What goes around comes around
Grant228
QUOTE (Mon The Clyde @ Oct 4 2008, 17:13) *
Kevin Harper is a diving cheat, that's all I'm going to say.

Are you not going to elaborate on how your team done...and how that diving cheat scored the winning goal wink.gif
sydney
QUOTE (Mon The Clyde @ Oct 4 2008, 17:13) *
Kevin Harper is a diving cheat, that's all I'm going to say.



Time to stop pointing the finger at others I think. We were well beaten by a team that looked as if they never got out of second gear. On the evidence of the last 2 home games, we'll be lucky to stay in this league.
SaintSam
QUOTE (vikingTON @ Oct 4 2008, 16:51) *
Clyde are being kept up solely by our own dazzling ineptitude.


Or maybe it is because they've managed to win a couple of games? Just a thought.
Mon The Clyde
QUOTE (Grant228 @ Oct 4 2008, 17:33) *
Are you not going to elaborate on how your team done...and how that diving cheat scored the winning goal wink.gif

I don't need to, and his goal was a cracking strike, but he is still a diving little cheat.

QUOTE (sydney @ Oct 4 2008, 17:33) *
Time to stop pointing the finger at others I think. We were well beaten by a team that looked as if they never got out of second gear. On the evidence of the last 2 home games, we'll be lucky to stay in this league.

I'm not blaming him for our defeat. We are completely useless at home.
CK
More rubbish from us, no leadership on or off the park. Brown again was playing his favourites and the midfield didn't turn up.

First goal came after Kettlewell and his inablility control a ball. Emslie is also useless, why on earth is he on set pieces? Most ineffective central midfield pairing I can remember.
vikingTON
QUOTE (SaintSam @ Oct 4 2008, 17:35) *
Or maybe it is because they've managed to win a couple of games? Just a thought.


They're still a jaw-droppingly awful football side who would be destined for the drop in any other season. Supposedly most teams win games from time to time in football, I wouldn't know myself. Some of those teams still get relegated and are terrible. Next week you might learn the offisde rule. smile.gif
SaintSam
QUOTE (vikingTON @ Oct 4 2008, 17:37) *
Supposedly most teams win games from time to time in football, I wouldn't know myself.


So, basically, you agree with me. They are where they are because they've won games.
vikingTON
QUOTE (SaintSam @ Oct 4 2008, 17:41) *
So, basically, you agree with me. They are where they are because they've won games.


They are where they are because they've lost games, and if it were not for our own shambolic displays they would be another place lower than where they currently are.
Pride Of The Clyde
QUOTE (Mon The Clyde @ Oct 4 2008, 17:36) *
I'm not blaming him for our defeat. We are completely useless at home.



We are completely useless fullstop.....
How Kettlewell managed to play another 90 minutes is beyond me, the guy is fcuking hopeless and so are the 2 other useless c***s we have on loan from Rangers.
GypsyTillIDie
QUOTE (CK @ Oct 4 2008, 17:37) *
More rubbish from us, no leadership on or off the park. Brown again was playing his favourites and the midfield didn't turn up.

First goal came after Kettlewell and his inablility control a ball. Emslie is also useless, why on earth is he on set pieces? Most ineffective central midfield pairing I can remember.

I thought Kettlewell had a really good second half today. huh.gif I do agree with your thoughts about Emslie. He's really poor at set-pieces.

On the whole, Clyde didn't deserve anything out of the game today. Dunfermline were good and reminded me of Clyde 4 or 5 years ago. Big, physical strikers and smart centre-midfielders adding a bit of creativity.

Clyde really need to buck up their ideas at home if we're wanting to stay in this division. If we carry on this way, we're going to be a second division team next season.
BullyWee1878
It just seems that Kettlewell is the fans choice for the boo boy tag this season. How the hell McGregor seems to avoid this is a mystery to me, the guy is fucking terrible and was our worst player today.
blowtorch
QUOTE (GypsyTillIDie @ Oct 4 2008, 17:51) *
I thought Kettlewell had a really good second half today. huh.gif I do agree with your thoughts about Emslie. He's really poor at set-pieces.


Thought Emslie did okay first half - good distribution but was poor second half, although last 2 set pieces were both good deliveries into the box - free kick and corner - no forwards even going for the balls.

Kettlewell tries hard but is one of the worst footbballers I ave ever seen - does not appear to have a clue how to play the game. And he was badly at fault for the first goal. Once one goes in its always the same, players panic and a second follows soon after.
GypsyTillIDie
QUOTE (BullyWee1878 @ Oct 4 2008, 18:10) *
It just seems that Kettlewell is the fans choice for the boo boy tag this season. How the hell McGregor seems to avoid this is a mystery to me, the guy is fucking terrible and was our worst player today.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You must be joking. Seriously, the amount of last-ditch tackles and headers he won today was astounding, especially as he was against Bayne.

He was easily our best player today.
tigernidster
QUOTE (CK @ Oct 4 2008, 17:37) *
More rubbish from us, no leadership on or off the park. Brown again was playing his favourites and the midfield didn't turn up.

First goal came after Kettlewell and his inablility control a ball. Emslie is also useless, why on earth is he on set pieces? Most ineffective central midfield pairing I can remember.


Spot on - agree absolutely. Kettlewell should be removed as captain. No midfield today at all. Where was Brown after we went 2 down? Not seen at all second half (as usual)! Higgins a good replacement for the German who was caught out of position on many occasions - simply asking for a booking the way he was charging in.

Mind you, the referee could have fairly given the Pars 5 yellow cards instead of just one for challenges every bit as bad as the one Clark was booked for and we should have had a penalty first half.
tigernidster
QUOTE (GypsyTillIDie @ Oct 4 2008, 18:14) *
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You must be joking. Seriously, the amount of last-ditch tackles and headers he won today was astounding, especially as he was against Bayne.

He was easily our best player today.


He was actually MOTM. ohmy.gif
blowtorch
QUOTE (GypsyTillIDie @ Oct 4 2008, 18:14) *
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You must be joking. Seriously, the amount of last-ditch tackles and headers he won today was astounding, especially as he was against Bayne.

He was easily our best player today.


ou must be joking - the last ditch tackles were a resuilt of his own dribbling attempts - he hada poor game today.
BullyWee1878
QUOTE (GypsyTillIDie @ Oct 4 2008, 18:14) *
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You must be joking. Seriously, the amount of last-ditch tackles and headers he won today was astounding, especially as he was against Bayne.

He was easily our best player today.


I can remember one if the first half but I must have tried to blank the game from my mind already. I am just so disapointed with the guy considering how good a player he was two years ago he just seems a complete shadow of what he was.
parsboi
To be honest the Pars won this game without playing fantastically well. Two good goals before half time and the game was dead. Clyde were absolutely fucking woeful, and I now remember why I hate Gary McSwegan so much - what an arrogant little fat-arsed, moany, f**k-pussed w**k. biggrin.gif

Harper had two good touches in the game - one for the through ball for Kirk's goal, and the shot for the second goal. That aside he really is a frustration. Thought Phinn was superb throughout and Stevie Bell filled in admirably for right back when Scott Thomson was injured by a rogue flying blade of grass. Again.

Very happy with a 2-0 win. Roll on the next game.
Fast_Action
QUOTE (vikingTON @ Oct 4 2008, 16:51) *
Clyde are being kept up solely by our own dazzling ineptitude.

You keep working on your draws. You will catch us.

Another disgraceful performance with baffling team selection and shocking discipline. I now make that 13 yellow cards over three games.

Sadly unless the arch-hun goes, I see no prospects of improvement. And before someone starts banging on about our budget, I believe that these palyers can perform better.

I think I am now ready to take the play-off spot (again) if offered.
DAFC
Comfortable win for us, thought we did well considering he had two 'defenders' playing out of their natural positions.
I think the Harper comments are uncalled for, many of the Clyde fans booed when Scott Thomson went down injured calling him and the referee a cheat when it was clear that he had been hurt.
Maybe the Brown school of thuggery isn't working?



parsville
QUOTE (Mon The Clyde @ Oct 4 2008, 17:13) *
Kevin Harper is a diving cheat, that's all I'm going to say.


I would say Clyde are the dirtiest team I've seen this season.
Pride Of The Clyde
QUOTE (BullyWee1878 @ Oct 4 2008, 18:10) *
It just seems that Kettlewell is the fans choice for the boo boy tag this season. How the hell McGregor seems to avoid this is a mystery to me, the guy is fucking terrible and was our worst player today.



I agree that McGregor is a bombscare but he seems to think he is the new Frans Beckenbaur or something and continually gets caught in posession in dangerous positions but that doesn't detract from how bad Kettlewell is. I would like to see how we would do without him in the team but unfortunately that won't happen Brown won't leave him out or take him off no matter how bad he is playing.
Fallen Angel
Ok,

We started really brightly and then for 10 minutes or so in the first half Clyde threw a lot at us.

The challenge on Thomson was a blatant 2 footed lunge and was worthy of a yellow bordering on a red card unsure.gif

Then for the rest of the half it was really all the Pars and two well taken goals biggrin.gif

How our defender was supposed to get out the way of a ball that started about a foot in front of him for your "penalty" is boyond me and we should have had a penalty for the hauling down of kirk in the box moments before Harpers petulant swipe at the ball that flew into the bottom right corner.

Second half was fairly comfortable and I loved the abuse hurled at Mcswegan who really is a fat bar steward and his "mugging" of Bell was really awful.... mad.gif

In the end three easily deserved points for the Pars that keeps us well in the hunt after 1/4 of the games played.....As for clyde, your probably lucky it was only 2 as your keeper had two great saves second half to keep it down. How he got back across himself to save that header is beyond me.

And, might I add, what a crap home support for such a nice little ground sad.gif

Having been at both last weeks game and today's I've no idea how Clyde are above Morton blink.gif
Garrowhillclyde
QUOTE (DAFC @ Oct 4 2008, 18:32) *
I think the Harper comments are uncalled for, many of the Clyde fans booed when Scott Thomson went down injured calling him and the referee a cheat when it was clear that he had been hurt.
Maybe the Brown school of thuggery isn't working?


If Scott Thomson tackle is the one near the home stand which Pat Clarke got booked for, then Thomson fully deserved his booing, as he went into the tackle two footed. He DID win the ball, but still went in with an illegal challenge, which warranted a booking - at least - he never even got spoken to and unbelievably Pars got the foul.

All that said, Clyde deserved hee-haw from today and were out played.
Fast_Action
QUOTE (parsville @ Oct 4 2008, 18:34) *
I would say Clyde are the dirtiest team I've seen this season.


Stone me, where is the evidence for that bold statement? Are you suggesting that because we have accrued 13 yellow cards over 3 games, this makes us a dirty team? ohmy.gif
GypsyTillIDie
QUOTE (blowtorch @ Oct 4 2008, 18:17) *
ou must be joking - the last ditch tackles were a resuilt of his own dribbling attempts - he hada poor game today.

No, I'm not 'joking'. The last ditch tackles weren't a result of his own dribbling, it was the fact that his midfield was incompetent in the first-half.
gingapar
a very easy win for the pars. neither team was going to play particularly good football on that pitch with the ball skidding and stopping randomly in the puddles and it was just a case of go out and get the job done for the pars.

It's a while since i've been at Broadwood and i'd forgotten just how strange a ground it is, 90% of the structure is roof which is amazing since it succeeds in keeping no-one dry. i can only assume that it's only that big for the sake of the floodlights along the front, couldn't someone've just introduced them to the concept of lamp posts when they built the thing?
Kirky_Clyde
I see McGregor and Kettlewell getting targeted. Yes Kettlewells been poor but he played well today apart from an error which unfortunately led up to their opener and the guy saying McGregor was gash today, you should have gone to specsavers.

revolvingduck
Very easy.

Clyde must be the worst team in this league. How on earth Morton are 5 points behind them, someone will have to explain to me. First half goals from Kirk (lovely finish) and a unlikely goal from the enigma that is Kevin Harper.

I have to say, Clyde's second-half performance was disgraceful. After realising they were shite and had no chance, they decided to revert to kicking us off the park. All the while the numpty Clyde fans at the top of the stand whined and complained about every single tackler made by a Pars player.

Great performances by Bayne, Woods, Mccann, Kirk. But MoM has to go to Nicky Phinn...again. He works so hard very single game and is really an inspiration. I just wish that his partner in central midfield Glass would at least pretend that he cares about the game he is supposed to be playing in.

All in all, Pars are 3rd, Clyde are shit and we have 2 weeks off until Thistle come to EEP. In the meantime, C'mon Scotland biggrin.gif
DAFC
QUOTE
But MoM has to go to Nicky Phinn...again


First half maybe but he disappeared in the second.

Pride Of The Clyde
QUOTE (Kirky_Clyde @ Oct 4 2008, 19:14) *
I see McGregor and Kettlewell getting targeted. Yes Kettlewells been poor but he played well today apart from an error which unfortunately led up to their opener and the guy saying McGregor was gash today, you should have gone to specsavers.



For the majority of the game McGregor was ok, generally that is the case with him but a couple of times every game he is caught fannying about with the ball and gets caught, until he cuts this out he is a liability we could do without.
Your point about Kettlewell playing well today, that beggars belief and before anyone starts about me targeting him, i have tried to give him the benefit of the doubt up until the last 2 games now i have just given up any hope that he has anything to offer, he is quite simply gash. The guy puts in a lot of effort, no one can deny that, that is the only positive thing i can say about him, ability wise he is sadly lacking.
Fast_Action
QUOTE (revolvingduck @ Oct 4 2008, 19:18) *
Very easy.

Clyde must be the worst team in this league. How on earth Morton are 5 points behind them, someone will have to explain to me.


More than happy to oblige on that one. We have won two games, and Morton have yet to record a win. What happens with points is as follows:-

For a win - 3 points
For a draw - 1 point

And nul points if a team loses.

Now what happens is that these points are added up, and the more points a team has, the higher their league position. That means that for now, we are above Morton.

Hope this helps and that you are able to grasp it in due course. It is not really that hard, once you get the hang of it.

Edited to say that I am off out now for a meal. Can I suggest respectfully that if you repeat this post out loud for the rest of the night, the penny might drop before midnight?
revolvingduck
QUOTE (DAFC @ Oct 4 2008, 19:19) *
First half maybe but he disappeared in the second.



I'm glad you have stopped just saying things that go against popular opinion rolleyes.gif
revolvingduck
QUOTE (Fast_Action @ Oct 4 2008, 19:33) *
More than happy to oblige on that one. We have won two games, and Morton have yet to record a win. What happens with points is as follows:-

For a win - 3 points
For a draw - 1 point

And nul points if a team loses.

Now what happens is that these points are added up, and the more points a team has, the higher their league position. That means that for now, we are above Morton.

Hope this helps and that you are able to grasp it in due course. It is not really that hard, once you get the hang of it.


Cheeky b*****d tongue.gif
Socks
QUOTE (parsboi @ Oct 4 2008, 18:27) *
when Scott Thomson was injured by a rogue flying blade of grass. Again.


I think he probably got injured in the tackle that Clarke got booked for a few minutes before. The comment that Clyde whould have had the free kick for that is unbelievable - as I saw it, both players went in two footed. Thomson got the ball, Clarke got Thomson. Also, I can't think of too many other tackles in teh game that were like that that could have resulted in 5 of our players being booked - Harper did catch his man a bit high and deserved his booking but I really can't think of any others. I also find the notion that Clyde were a dirty side to be a bit silly - just two lots of players getting on with the game and getting stuck in, something I quite enjoyed watching.

A fairly comfortable win really - I didn't ever think Clyde were going to score although in fairness at points during the second half they did play some decent passes around the edge of the box but just couldn't get a decent shot in. With one defender injured in the warmup and another going off early in the game, a win without losing a goal is a good result, regardless of how poor Clyde played today.
David W
QUOTE (Pride Of The Clyde @ Oct 4 2008, 19:31) *
For the majority of the game McGregor was ok, generally that is the case with him but a couple of times every game he is caught fannying about with the ball and gets caught, until he cuts this out he is a liability we could do without.
Your point about Kettlewell playing well today, that beggars belief and before anyone starts about me targeting him, i have tried to give him the benefit of the doubt up until the last 2 games now i have just given up any hope that he has anything to offer, he is quite simply gash. The guy puts in a lot of effort, no one can deny that, that is the only positive thing i can say about him, ability wise he is sadly lacking.

That is complete and utter rubbish. People clearly have this idea in their heads about Kettlewell now and somehow can't see that he's been one of our better performers in recent weeks. His one poor touch of the game (not helped by the pitch) unfortunately led to the opening goal but other than that, he competed for the ball, retained possession and was involved in our best move of the second half. With the exception of McKay, he was the star performer of those that started the game (Higgins was MotM comfortably). McGregor and Gemmill weren't bad. Emslie struggles at times to play a simple pass and always seems to be trying to cut a team open. I think Brown has got some qualities but I just don't see him succeeding as a centre back. German wasn't great, Waddell was terrible.

Dunfermline deserved their win because of the wee bit of quality they had to net the opener. Definitely NOT a penalty just before the second and it looked like the shot took either a deflection or a nasty skid of the surface. The sad thing is, they're not that good a side and probably one of our best opportunities for 3 points.

We probably had more half chances than they did over the 90 minutes but an unbelievable reluctance to shoot (McSwegan in particular), or an inability to get efforts on target, meant that Gallacher had an easy afternoon. Plenty of decent passing at times but the fact we only have one decent striker (and no "big lump") is becoming increasingly obvious. Their front two worked well together and Phinn is a decent player but I disagree with the guy above who says McCann had a good game - he was terrible.

Finally, the referee. I like Crawford Allan in general but he had a shocker; throw-ins being awarded to the wrong team, bookings being thrown around yet Wilson escaped a yellow for going through the back of Clarke/chopping down McKay, as well as Ohnesorge not being booked for his kick through the back of Harper. No real effect on the game but disappointing anyway.
Sir Kevin Of Kilsyth
Im slightly pished so if what I am saying comes across as complete nonsense then I apologize but here gos.

That was fucking awful. Even going to the game I never thought we were going to get anything and sure enough we never did. We were spineless - as we have been in a number of games this season.

I know there are a number of Clyde fans on here who are a lot more patient with the team bemoaning a lack of investment etc. But ive had enough. How any self respecting fan can accept that level of performance (which has been present most games this season) is beyond me. Regardless of said issues the team just isnt performing well enough. Tactics are wrong,lineups are usually wrong and there is a lack of heart amongst certain individuals. It is just crap and anyone who thinks it will improve is deluding themselves.

I will finish by echoing the sentiments of another poster earlier in the week. He got abuse for saying this but tbh he was totally right.

Brown must go.

ps and would people please stop blaming referees for our own shortcomings. It is tedious and annoying.
Sao Paulo
I think some of the comments made by Clyde supporters on this thread are wild.

It's not worth telling the story of the game. Dunfermline won it through quality alone. They're simply a more able side and are in possession of superiorly capable individuals for a number of positions on the field. I said prior to today's game that if we had have won, or indeed taken anything, we would have surpassed ourselves. In other words it would have required substantial luck for us to get a result, as Pars', without question, are a stronger outfit.

And as you may derive from the scoreline, we had no such fortune. A pivotal moment was perhaps the award of a free-kick rather than a penalty for the felling of Gemmill inside/outside of the area (first half). The initial tug on his jersey was in fact outside of the area but the far more blatant pull was clearly in with the eighteen yard. Which one the decision went on is anyone's guess?

Another thing I noted pre-match was my expectation of our struggle in going between midfield and attack. Clyde really could have played a further ninety minutes without scoring this afternoon. A chronic lack of guile and the absence of any real quality with respects to going forward was sorely evident. For as much as the forwards (Gemmill) and the wide men (MacKay) plugged away today, they aren't capable as individuals or in unity of mustering enough clear cut chances for the likes of Clarke to be getting goals. As far as I'm concerned there were only two instances in which we could or rather should have got a goal today. If two goalscoring opportunities always got us two goals, i.e. if we had serious, serious quality in front of goal, fine. The reality, however, is that we don't.

When we get the likes of Trouten & McLaren back onto games perhaps we can expect three points against the likes of Dunfermline at home. (Another quality forward mightn't go a miss either!)

For what it's worth I don't think any individual, Ohnesorge and his one crucial mistake excepted, was guilty of hiding ability. Hearing shouts today, the likes of; "We've not got a ball in training" is irritating because clearly we can pass the ball, we're not wasteful or wayward with it but we are lacking things to do with it and we are also lacking players who can do - purposeful - things with it especially in the attacking third.

MOTM; I'm inclined to say Higgins, although he only played forty five minutes. Gemmill, McGregor, MacKay & Kettlewell* all stuck to the task admirably. Albeit they didn't quite dazzle the spectators with their displays.

*The unmerited abuse this player takes is absolutely staggering.
washsacks
Well, after reading the Clyde's fans view on the match, i have come to the conclusion i have no idea who any of the Clyde players are.

In any case, there was no need for us to get out of 2nd gear today, it was a stroll and we could have won by alot more. Clyde are by far and away the worst team i have seen this season. Relegation looms.

The game was marred however by the racially aggrivated boo-ing of Kevin Harper. This is something we don't need to see in todays game and i hope Clyde will be issuing a statement of apology.
Fallen Angel
QUOTE (David W @ Oct 4 2008, 20:53) *
The sad thing is, they're not that good a side and probably one of our best opportunities for 3 points.


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

That's right mate...we're not a good side despite being third in the league, three points off top with one of the best goal differences in the league and having conceded the least amount along with Queens wink.gif

Now trot on son blink.gif
Sao Paulo
QUOTE (washsacks @ Oct 4 2008, 21:53) *
The game was marred however by the racially aggrivated boo-ing of Kevin Harper. This is something we don't need to see in todays game and i hope Clyde will be issuing a statement of apology.

The booing or jeering, as it seemed, was aggravated by Harper's folly and rash tackling on the stand side touch line. Thought he took the pelters well actually, gave a smile etc.

I don't know how you've came to the conclusion that it was racially aggravated?
CK
QUOTE (Sao Paulo @ Oct 4 2008, 22:00) *
The booing or jeering, as it seemed, was aggravated by Harper's folly and rash tackling on the stand side touch line. Thought he took the pelters well actually, gave a smile etc.

I don't know how you've came to the conclusion that it was racially aggravated?

laugh.gif

He's clearly on the wind-up.
Sao Paulo
It's often very difficult to distinguish who is and isn't in these parts.
tigernidster
QUOTE (washsacks @ Oct 4 2008, 21:53) *
In any case, there was no need for us to get out of 2nd gear today, it was a stroll and we could have won by alot more.


You only made one challenge in the 2nd half........
Garrowhillclyde
QUOTE (washsacks @ Oct 4 2008, 21:53) *
The game was marred however by the racially aggrivated boo-ing of Kevin Harper. This is something we don't need to see in todays game and i hope Clyde will be issuing a statement of apology.



laugh.gif Nice try.

Harper actually took it well - I liked one of his reactions - after a bit of stick he raised two fingers to us as if to give us the V's, followed by the other hand giving the 'O' sign for 2-0. I laugh.gif 'd

Thankfully no Clyde fans embarrased themselves by going off to complain. I seem to remember a similar incident in a pars Vs Luvvies cup game a few seasons ago.
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