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QOS 1970
of Clyde fans come from Cumbernauld and how many from Rutherglen.Just interested ,thats all.I never got to Shawfield because you were always in a higher league than us and the first Clyde v Qos game I got to was at Firhill in 86 ,which if memory serves me well ,was clydes first season away from Rutherglen.
Fife Saint
QUOTE (QOS 1970 @ Oct 2 2008, 10:11) *
of Clyde fans come from Cumbernauld and how many from Rutherglen.Just interested ,thats all.I never got to Shawfield because you were always in a higher league than us and the first Clyde v Qos game I got to was at Firhill in 86 ,which if memory serves me well ,was clydes first season away from Rutherglen.



Every sensible person in Cumbernauld supprts the OF. There are a few crackpots who follow Thistle but they really shouldn't be talked about.
vikingTON
Sensible people in Cumbernauld is a contradiction in terms. They move.
clyde4ever
To answer the question - I think it was probably about 50/50 until a couple of seasons ago.

The number of fans who have followed the team from Shawfield/Firhill days is definitely dropping quickly these days though.
The main reasons IMO are :-
1) Fans getting older. Less enthusiastic. Can't be bothered travelling any longer. Kicking the bucket (Unfortunately. I know a few who are no longer with us).
2) Too much attachment to one half or other of the Old Firm over the last few years. The last 4 managers have all played for either Rangers or Celtic, as have several coaching staff. That doesn't sit too well with a lot of supporters who have no time whatsoever for the Old Firm.
3) Poor home form, especially after 3 or 4 years where it was excellent.
4) No longer the feeling at the club of being "one big family". Again, my opinion, but I think this started when Graham Roberts took over, and he tried to make the setup more "professional" by clamping down on supporters having access to certain areas of the stadium. Ok, you can argue it wasn't right - but it was what made us different to other clubs.
5) The Board have alienated themselves from the "ordinary" fans by making unpopular decisions without giving a reasonable explanation for their actions e.g. Graham Roberts sacking (case lost at tribunal). (Personally, I think the Board have done a good job (considering our small support, and financial problems) to keep us in the First Division - but I know many others don't agree with me).

The number of Cumbernauld fans has probably remained fairly static in the last few years (when we need it to be on the increase).
Natural progression at any other club is for new young supporters to start supporting the club. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be happening with Clyde as much as with most other teams.

Currently I'd guess 40% Rutherglen/ 60% Cumbernauld - but only because the old fan base is dropping away rather than the new one increasing. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
QOS 1970
QUOTE (clyde4ever @ Oct 2 2008, 13:09) *
To answer the question - I think it was probably about 50/50 until a couple of seasons ago.

The number of fans who have followed the team from Shawfield/Firhill days is definitely dropping quickly these days though.
The main reasons IMO are :-
1) Fans getting older. Less enthusiastic. Can't be bothered travelling any longer. Kicking the bucket (Unfortunately. I know a few who are no longer with us).
2) Too much attachment to one half or other of the Old Firm over the last few years. The last 4 managers have all played for either Rangers or Celtic, as have several coaching staff. That doesn't sit too well with a lot of supporters who have no time whatsoever for the Old Firm.
3) Poor home form, especially after 3 or 4 years where it was excellent.
4) No longer the feeling at the club of being "one big family". Again, my opinion, but I think this started when Graham Roberts took over, and he tried to make the setup more "professional" by clamping down on supporters having access to certain areas of the stadium. Ok, you can argue it wasn't right - but it was what made us different to other clubs.
5) The Board have alienated themselves from the "ordinary" fans by making unpopular decisions without giving a reasonable explanation for their actions e.g. Graham Roberts sacking (case lost at tribunal). (Personally, I think the Board have done a good job (considering our small support, and financial problems) to keep us in the First Division - but I know many others don't agree with me).

The number of Cumbernauld fans has probably remained fairly static in the last few years (when we need it to be on the increase).
Natural progression at any other club is for new young supporters to start supporting the club. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be happening with Clyde as much as with most other teams.

Currently I'd guess 40% Rutherglen/ 60% Cumbernauld - but only because the old fan base is dropping away rather than the new one increasing. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
Thanks for taking the time to answer.That was a very informative reply.I also think the clyde board have done well in keeping them in the first considering their small support.I know a few clyde exiles living down here in dumfries and they are hard core fans and good lads.
Günther
If I remember right. Only 10-20% of our Season Ticket holders (600 - 700) are from the Cumbernauld Area. The rest is all Glasgow, Rutherglen and Falkirk.
Mr Roberts
There is a notable poster on this very site who passes by Broadwood every week on his way to Firhill. God only knows his dress sense would lend itself to fit in perfectly with the Clyde loyal.
Fast_Action
QUOTE (clyde4ever @ Oct 2 2008, 14:09) *
To answer the question - I think it was probably about 50/50 until a couple of seasons ago.

The number of fans who have followed the team from Shawfield/Firhill days is definitely dropping quickly these days though.
The main reasons IMO are :-
1) Fans getting older. Less enthusiastic. Can't be bothered travelling any longer. Kicking the bucket (Unfortunately. I know a few who are no longer with us).
2) Too much attachment to one half or other of the Old Firm over the last few years. The last 4 managers have all played for either Rangers or Celtic, as have several coaching staff. That doesn't sit too well with a lot of supporters who have no time whatsoever for the Old Firm.
3) Poor home form, especially after 3 or 4 years where it was excellent.
4) No longer the feeling at the club of being "one big family". Again, my opinion, but I think this started when Graham Roberts took over, and he tried to make the setup more "professional" by clamping down on supporters having access to certain areas of the stadium. Ok, you can argue it wasn't right - but it was what made us different to other clubs.
5) The Board have alienated themselves from the "ordinary" fans by making unpopular decisions without giving a reasonable explanation for their actions e.g. Graham Roberts sacking (case lost at tribunal). (Personally, I think the Board have done a good job (considering our small support, and financial problems) to keep us in the First Division - but I know many others don't agree with me).

The number of Cumbernauld fans has probably remained fairly static in the last few years (when we need it to be on the increase).
Natural progression at any other club is for new young supporters to start supporting the club. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be happening with Clyde as much as with most other teams.

Currently I'd guess 40% Rutherglen/ 60% Cumbernauld - but only because the old fan base is dropping away rather than the new one increasing. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif


We do pick up support from Kirkintilloch and Kilsyth.
Fife Saint
QUOTE (Fast_Action @ Oct 2 2008, 21:38) *
We do pick up support from Kirkintilloch and Kilsyth.



I've seen more Saints tops in Kirky than Clyde ones.
PTFC27
QUOTE (Mr Roberts @ Oct 2 2008, 21:34) *
There is a notable poster on this very site who passes by Broadwood every week on his way to Firhill. God only knows his dress sense would lend itself to fit in perfectly with the Clyde loyal.



You've been away for a while.
Jim Pansy
Is the answer 74.43%?
WhoAmI?
I live in cumbernauld and no very few clyde fans/ one or two. mostley rangers and celtic fans and 1 airdrie fan
Fast_Action
QUOTE (Fife Saint @ Oct 2 2008, 21:40) *
I've seen more Saints tops in Kirky than Clyde ones.


There are St Mirren fans in Kirkie?
JRS LEFT PEG
If they had not had as many fortunate cup draws,I dread to think what financial mess they would be in.The friendly with Man Utd would also have helped keep things ticking along for them as not much will be coming in the gate.
Caro-Kann
QUOTE (WhoAmI? @ Oct 2 2008, 22:41) *
I live in cumbernauld and no very few clyde fans/ one or two. mostley rangers and celtic fans and 1 airdrie fan

There are quite a few Airdrie fans from Cumbernauld, might be down to the fact that Airdrieonians played there for about 5 years or that Airdrie was the closest ground prior to Clyde moving. Although the amount of residential housing around Broadwood has increased (and still doing so) greatly since the construction of Broadwood few is any of the families moving into the area have any affinity for Clyde. Given that many of these people are families with young kids I would have expected Clyde would try to do more to attract them along but as far as I'm aware (I live 0.5 miles away) they have failed to do so.
Tory Boy
QUOTE (Caro-Kann @ Oct 3 2008, 10:41) *
There are quite a few Airdrie fans from Cumbernauld, might be down to the fact that Airdrieonians played there for about 5 years or that Airdrie was the closest ground prior to Clyde moving. Although the amount of residential housing around Broadwood has increased (and still doing so) greatly since the construction of Broadwood few is any of the families moving into the area have any affinity for Clyde. Given that many of these people are families with young kids I would have expected Clyde would try to do more to attract them along but as far as I'm aware (I live 0.5 miles away) they have failed to do so.



I'm not so sure the Broadwood years helped us attract more fans from Cumbernauld. There was a Cumbernauld Airdrie supporters bus back in the late 80's early 90's. Also most of the Condorrat & Kilsyth lads who watch Airdrie went to the games well before we moved to Broadwood.
Nizzy
QUOTE (Tory Boy @ Oct 3 2008, 11:02) *
I'm not so sure the Broadwood years helped us attract more fans from Cumbernauld. There was a Cumbernauld Airdrie supporters bus back in the late 80's early 90's.

I believe it left from The Woodcutter in Abronhill, not sure if it still does. Horrible pub, and that's excluding the Airdrie lads.

I take it Mr Roberts is referring to me. I'm wearing a green and pink hooped track top today, doubt that would go down well with Jack Shit and his gay bashing (for that read 'secretly cock loving') cronies.
veteran
In retrospect Clyde may regret the choice they made to relocate to Cumbernauld when they had the option of moving to East Kilbride.
East Kilbride has a bigger population and is only 4-5 miles from Rutherglen.
A stadium site was in place for a move to EK and I have never fully got to the bottom of the reason a move to EK fell through.
All history now.
jagtastic
QUOTE (veteran @ Oct 3 2008, 11:19) *
In retrospect Clyde may regret the choice they made to relocate to Cumbernauld when they had the option of moving to East Kilbride.
East Kilbride has a bigger population and is only 4-5 miles from Rutherglen.
A stadium site was in place for a move to EK and I have never fully got to the bottom of the reason a move to EK fell through.
All history now.



Did Clyde have the choice? I always though the reason was simply that North Lanarkshire council were willing to fund it at that time and South Lanarkshire weren't, whether a site was in place or not?
L14VVY
QUOTE (Jack Shit @ Oct 2 2008, 15:09) *
If I remember right. Only 10-20% of our Season Ticket holders (600 - 700) are from the Cumbernauld Area. The rest is all Glasgow, Rutherglen and Falkirk.


Does that mean you have between 3000 and 7000 season ticket holders?!
Nizzy
QUOTE (L14VVY @ Oct 3 2008, 12:56) *
Does that mean you have between 3000 and 7000 season ticket holders?!

No it means they have 600-700 season ticket holders, but I suspect you knew that. Anyhoo, even that figure seems a little high.
Caro-Kann
QUOTE (jagtastic @ Oct 3 2008, 11:44) *
Did Clyde have the choice? I always though the reason was simply that North Lanarkshire council were willing to fund it at that time and South Lanarkshire weren't, whether a site was in place or not?

Neither of these councils existed at the time Broadwood was built.
I always thought the bulk of the construction costs came from Cumbernauld
Development Corportation.
Skyline Drifter
QUOTE (Nizzy @ Oct 3 2008, 13:07) *
No it means they have 600-700 season ticket holders, but I suspect you knew that. Anyhoo, even that figure seems a little high.

Official figures from our visit on Saturday said a gate of 1,095 with a travelling support of 341 which would tend to imply (subject to whether or not neutrals are included) a Clyde support of 754 at the game. Seems extremely unlikely that "600 - 700" of those would be season ticket holders. That would be an extraordinary percentage and would imply they take virtually nothing through the turnstiles for home fans any given matchday.

Presumably either the true season ticket figure is considerably smaller or a fair whack of these tickets go out to people who don't actually use them.
CLYDE ULTRA
Official figures from our visit on Saturday said a gate of 1,095 with a travelling support of 341 which would tend to imply (subject to whether or not neutrals are included) a Clyde support of 754 at the game. Seems extremely unlikely that "600 - 700" of those would be season ticket holders. That would be an extraordinary percentage and would imply they take virtually nothing through the turnstiles for home fans any given matchday.

Presumably either the true season ticket figure is considerably smaller or a fair whack of these tickets go out to people who don't actually use them.

I would say the figure for our ST holders is correct, a lot of ST holders are kids, under 12's are £5 for a ST which if great value, but they don't turn up every week. Our support is worringly low just now tho, for the thistle game there was only 870 in the home end when normally we would get between 1,200 - 1,500. Don't know what the problem is, pish football, credit crunch, etc.
Sir Kevin Of Kilsyth
QUOTE (Fast_Action @ Oct 2 2008, 20:38) *
We do pick up support from Kirkintilloch and Kilsyth.


Other than myself I think theres one other proper Clyde fan in Kilsyth. Which is a shame.

I will say that to some extent the local support for Clyde has increased. Its mostly youngsters who got their season books for a fiver that just come for something to do but I have noticed a definate increase in them. Everyone starts somewhere I suppose.
jagtastic
QUOTE (Caro-Kann @ Oct 3 2008, 13:29) *
Neither of these councils existed at the time Broadwood was built.
I always thought the bulk of the construction costs came from Cumbernauld
Development Corportation.



Good point. In any case the funding for the Broadwood development was obviously there but whether the supposed EK option had funding is debatable. Perhaps a Clyde fan will know more about it. I just can't believe anyone involved with Clyde would choose Cumbernauld as a more attractive relocation for the club than EK if they were offered both.
veteran
QUOTE (jagtastic @ Oct 3 2008, 16:08) *
Good point. In any case the funding for the Broadwood development was obviously there but whether the supposed EK option had funding is debatable. Perhaps a Clyde fan will know more about it. I just can't believe anyone involved with Clyde would choose Cumbernauld as a more attractive relocation for the club than EK if they were offered both.

My understanding has always been that an agreement for a move to EK was all but agreed and Clyde pulled the plug on it.
As you say Clyde fans might have more details on the matter.
Personally I yhink it was a big mistake.
clyde4ever
What I heard was that The Cooncil insisted on having a member on the Clyde Board, and the Clyde Directors at that time wouldn't entertain the idea.

With hindsight.................... SPL I reckon, with a much better support.
Maybe someday. wink.gif
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