John Reid has issued a statement today condeming the Rangers Racist Song
the timing of the statement is perfect as would be expected from John Reid with all his media experience , as an ex senior cabinet minister.
The statement released before two hours before Rangers played Hibs live on TV , and the Rangers Fans duly obliged and belted out the Racist Song
Tomorrow this story will do the news cycle just as Celtic arrive in Spain .The whole story will be played out in front of the European media and UEFA .
Expect a news conference from John Reid in Spain , F...... brilliant News management


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...tic/7640921.stm

But we are not complacent. I would again condemn, without equivocation, the use of any chants or songs which can be interpreted as support for religious or ethnic hatred, or for acts of violence

I find it extremely laughable that you have quoted from The Scottish Sun. Out of all of the newspapers which are published in Scotland, The Sun is most definitely one of the least creditable.

I find it extremely laughable that you have quoted from The Scottish Sun. Out of all of the newspapers which are published in Scotland, The Sun is most definitely one of the least creditable.

Alternatively, you could ask why a such a low-brow publication finds it so easy to score points against a bumbling politician with woo many skeletons in his own closet.

As the old saying goes my friend, "don't believe everything you read in the newspapers".

As the old saying goes my friend, "don't believe everything you read in the newspapers".

Where did I say I did?

I'd be more concerned about a racist, sex pest, corrupt, crypto-fascist war criminal in charge of my club.

I guess you Celtic fans have a lower level of moral inegrity.

Translation:

Racist, IRA chanting sex pest, crypto fascist, war criminal panders to delusional, paranoid Celtic-minded bigots.

When did Celtic fans become a race? I thought they were all-inclusive types, despite the single worst example of racism when their fans turned up in monkey outfits to hurl bananas and monkey chants at a black player.

The alleged "racist content" of the chant must be lying next to those pesky Iraqi WMDs!




Racist, IRA chanting sex pest, crypto fascist, war criminals' opinions don't count for me.

Funny how he wouldn't comment on the explicitly racist IRA terrorist chants of his own fans in recent home and away games.

Where did I say I did?

I'd be more concerned about a racist, sex pest, corrupt, crypto-fascist war criminal in charge of my club.

I guess you Celtic fans have a lower level of moral inegrity.

In terms of race , you really do need to read the definition of race as prescribed in the Race Relations Act .
I have an affinity to Ireland as 3 of my 4 grandparents are Irish ..
As John Reid points out the Racist Song cleary contravenes the Race Relations act 1976 .
Now the the European press will wish to ask why the SFA have failed to take action.


Harassment

The definition of harassment introduced by the Race Relations Act 1976 (Amendment) Regulations 2003 applies when the discrimination is on grounds of race or ethnic or national origins, but not colour or nationality. Harassment on grounds of colour or nationality amounts to less favourable treatment and may be unlawful direct discrimination.

A person harasses another on grounds of race or ethnic or national origins when he or she engages in unwanted conduct that has the purpose or effect of:
• violating that other persons dignity; or
• creating an intimidating or hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment for them.

And where did I say that I supported Reid's appointment as Chairman? In fact, if anything, I'm against it. With all the controversy that Reid carries with him, whether it's true or untrue, I think it would have been more beneficial to the club if someone else was appointed.

And what more, a Rangers fan talking about moral integrity(that's the proper spelling by the way)? It was only a few months ago that you scoundrels trashed a certain city in the north-west of England.

The IRA are not on the European Unions list of proscribed Terrorist organisations . They were removed following the good Friday agreement .

In terms of race , you really do need to read the definition of race as prescribed in the Race Relations Act .
I have an affinity to Ireland as 3 of my 4 grandparents are Irish ..
As John Reid points out the Racist Song cleary contravenes the Race Relations act 1976 .
Now the the European press will wish to ask why the SFA have failed to take action.


Harassment

The definition of harassment introduced by the Race Relations Act 1976 (Amendment) Regulations 2003 applies when the discrimination is on grounds of race or ethnic or national origins, but not colour or nationality. Harassment on grounds of colour or nationality amounts to less favourable treatment and may be unlawful direct discrimination.

A person harasses another on grounds of race or ethnic or national origins when he or she engages in unwanted conduct that has the purpose or effect of:
• violating that other persons dignity; or
• creating an intimidating or hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment for them.

I wasn't keen on this bit though



"can be interpreted" by who?

Looks like a sop to the Old Firm 'symmetry' brigade. Large sections of society still think producing anything Irish is tantamount to supporting hatred/violence.

Where did I say I did?

I'd be more concerned about a racist, sex pest, corrupt, crypto-fascist war criminal in charge of my club.

No I disagree . . The main points are . Rangers fans sing RAcist songs . It contravenes the race relations act and is illegal .

F brilliant statement just before an away trip to Europe and its in Villarreal too where the Huns got fined for the Billy Boys .

Martin Bain, Moonbeams will be raging . Rangers Fans and Racist Chanting brought to the attention of Europe again
UEFA must love the Huns , the perfect club to make an example of .

How is John Reid a sex pest?

As I said, Mr-Think's-he's-clever-but-clearly-isn't, Celtic fans are not a race.

Legally, you can't complain about the song even if it did refer to Irish people-which it clearly doesn't- since you're not Irish.

Furthermore, if you're going to use that legal definition, it would apply to many of your own fans' current songs, including the racist IRA ones.

I think the European press would be more interested in your fans' support for the racist, sectarian IRA.

Finally, the IRA are an illegal organisation in the UK. We are in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, after all!

Those who claim this false offence by willfully distorting the intent of the song are guilty of greater prejudice than those who sang a song with the sole intent of winding up the opposition.

You Sir, are a bigot!

Oh dear, thick retard child that you are. Supporting a football team does not constitute a racial grouping, either by definition or any legal provision.



The Billy Boys is not sectarian and UEFA only "partially upheld" the decision and did not say it was sectarian.


Christ you're thick and uninformed!


I think you'll find your racist IRA chants are the only ones at Old Firm matches under that definition.

Furthermore, Mark Walters.

And in conclusion, your chairman is a war criminal who OK'd the usage of cluster bombs which killed and maimed innocent children in Iraq.

You have no moral high ground.

Oh its going to be funny watching Gordon Smith explain why the SFA have not taken action . The IRA are viwed on par with the PLO in Europe . They are not on the procribed terrorits groups list so UEFA will do F all about rebel songs and you know it "Let the People Sing "

Oh its going to be funny watching Gordon Smith explain why the SFA have not taken action . The IRA are viwed on par with the PLO in Europe . They are not on the procribed terrorits groups list so UEFA will do F all about rebel songs and you know it "Let the People Sing "

They just haven't been alerted by a massive emailing campaign.

...yet.

Revenge will be sweeter.

Ok then keep taking the medication . and keep belting out the Racist Song , sing it loud and proud . please please please

The first thing good prod Gord will say is ' Mr UEFA, the dhims have been singing songs in support of an enemy tae oor country for years! I think we should ban them right enough!!

Dear Sir,

You have contacted the UEFA disciplinary services to complain about a song called “Huns away from Europe” that appears to have been chanted by Celtic supporters during the UEFA Champions League fixture between Celtic FC and Aalborg on 17 September. With all respect to your personal feelings and impression, the terms you object to do not appear to be connected with racial abuse or discrimination. Factually, the term “hun” has a historical background, notably in Europe. We understand that the chant "huns out of Europe" might have been referring to the fact that their arch rivals, Rangers, did not qualify for the UEFA Champions League! Celtic fans seem to refer to Rangers as the hun (the enemy).

Should you still consider the text to have a sectarian background, we recommend that you address the matter to the competent authorities in Scotland.


Yours faithfully

UEFA Disciplinary Services

Christ, you're genuinely thick!

Yeah UEFA love Huns lol

But Im no racist

The IRA are not on the European Unions list of proscribed Terrorist organisations . They were removed following the good Friday agreement .

In terms of race , you really do need to read the definition of race as prescribed in the Race Relations Act .
I have an affinity to Ireland as 3 of my 4 grandparents are Irish ..
As John Reid points out the Racist Song cleary contravenes the Race Relations act 1976 .
Now the the European press will wish to ask why the SFA have failed to take action.


Harassment

The definition of harassment introduced by the Race Relations Act 1976 (Amendment) Regulations 2003 applies when the discrimination is on grounds of race or ethnic or national origins, but not colour or nationality. Harassment on grounds of colour or nationality amounts to less favourable treatment and may be unlawful direct discrimination.

A person harasses another on grounds of race or ethnic or national origins when he or she engages in unwanted conduct that has the purpose or effect of:
• violating that other persons dignity; or
• creating an intimidating or hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment for them.

Don't give up your day job, Perry Mason; the Race Relations Act applies to things like housing, employment, education and the provision of services not to groups of football supporters shouting at each other.

Should a Fiscal try and bring a charge against a fan under this act he'd be laughed out of court whatever "the European press" (whoever the f**k they are) say about it.

Whats your take on the "PEOPLE" doing nazi salutes ? And don't start "Hand of ulster" shite.

John Reid has just thrown a nuclear bombshell into the mix . He is not called Dr Death for nothing
He has just labelled the Rangers Fans racist , and then fooked off out the country for a few days .
Murray and Bain cant stand back and let the their fans be humilated in public .

Oh yes the song does contravene the Race Relations Act as John Reid says in his statement .
Watch the fun begin lol

I don't think anyone should be taking lessons in morality from John Reid. Even Rangers.

John Reid has issued a statement today condeming the Rangers Racist Song
the timing of the statement is perfect as would be expected from John Reid with all his media experience , as an ex senior cabinet minister.
The statement released before two hours before Rangers played Hibs live on TV , and the Rangers Fans duly obliged and belted out the Racist Song
Tomorrow this story will do the news cycle just as Celtic arrive in Spain .The whole story will be played out in front of the European media and UEFA .
Expect a news conference from John Reid in Spain , F...... brilliant News management


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...tic/7640921.stm

No it doesn't thick boy!

You must have missed a lot of your education.

And former Northern Ireland Secretary Reid said: "As both Rangers Football Club and Strathclyde Police have stated, the content of the song - which is directed against the community of Irish descent in Scotland - is in breach of Race Relations legislation and exposes its perpetrators to the risk of prosecution

The Red Hand of Ulster is a genuine gesture, despite your lies.

Also it's very rare at Rangers games and not present in that photo.

There are almost as many left hands in that picture and most people look like they're waving or have closed hands.

Only one arm looks like it could be remotely in the alleged salute position of a Red Hand, but even that may not vindicated by a still picture of an instant frozen in time.

It's just another attempted and failed distortion peddled by bigots like yourself.

just makes the Huns look like bigger wanks than they already are, i love the way he says ..."But we are not complacent. I would again condemn, without equivocation, the use of any chants or songs which can be interpreted as support for religious or ethnic hatred, or for acts of violence.
compare that to bains limp wristed shit from ipox and judging by the way Huns on p&b are foaming at the mouth over this it's working a treat,, regardless of the tit for tat shit on here.. in the wider stage IE the UK and Europe, Celtic are an award winning club for fans in the eyes of Europe while the Huns are rioting bigoted, uefa fine collecting backward sectarian scum ..
well done Reid