Saturday night will surely see Queens sitting proudly at the top of the league

I expect big Sean to play at some point and even though we only started four of our cup final team yesterday, we will be stronger for this game.

I have no idea what sort of travelling support Lavy take with them, but I can't see them bringing any more than 200 for this match. I just hope that the fickle Dumfries public stay with Queens for the moment and that we can attract a few more casual fans to see Queens take pole position. I simply cannot see any less than 4,000 in the stadium for this one, and Queens will win it and win it well I think.

i'd take a draw tbh as our record down at palmerston is woeful! if we play like we can we could easily win but this will be imo our hardest game so far.

Prediction: 1-1 with some queens player scoring first but Elliott to equalise!

6 days in advance? For crying out loud. We've had top of the table clashes the two previous weeks and haven't got this excited...

I'll give my thoughts on Friday so I can comment on any news about our players that happens throughout the week.

Edited for spelling.

If Elliot scores I'd be embarassed for Bell! His record is looking good for Livi but in the games I've seen him play I thought he was woeful. Maybe a break at Livi is what he needs!

If O'Connor starts I hope it will be along with Dobbs. If this is the case I'd go for 2-1 QoS Dobbie double.

No O'Connor I'll go for 1-0 QoS. Sives.

If it's a Livi win I'll say 2-1.

I remember Livi used to have a good away support so as they are top I'd like to think they'll bring around 400. Hopefully the Dumfries fly-by-night fans will come out and we can get over 4000 there.

don't get your hopes up about our support tbh AFAIK we only have 2 buses coming down so add cars(not going to count public transport as dumfries is murder to get to so cant see many coming by train) to that i'd say 250ish

200 livi. they SOULD bring more than that next week, but i hope w can get a crowd of 4000 for this one- our lowest weekend crowd this season has been 2800 so i can see a decent crowd at palmy on seturday!

I know we should and i get so frustrated going week in week out and getting into the stadium to see 150-300 livi fans(except pars where we had about 750ish)

A 4000 crowd my arse. You'd need a decent amount of Livi supporters for that to happen.

You may well be surprised. The last time we had the chance to go top of the first was against ICT a few years ago, I'm sure we were not far off 4000 if not just over and Caley didn't bring down too many.

Crowd for that ICT game was 3547. It will be interesting to see if we top that on Saturday. I`ll be astonihed if we top 4000 though.

Should be a good game . This will be the third game on the trot that we have played second in the league with 6 goals for and only 1 against in the games against Dundee & Partick. Not getting my hopes up yet , but a win on Saturday and I might just. A few weeks ago I would have accepted 4 points from these three games but 9 is a strong possibility. As for the travelling support 300 will probably be around the mark. What are the admission prices for an adult & child?

What was the gate that day I wonder? It was certainly a great occasion and something similar next week would be good.
Already really excited about it and Livingston should certainly bring more than ICT did.
Our start has at least been good enough to prevent the Cup run feel good factor from completely evaporating and a gate of 4000-ish doesn't strike me as too unrealistic a hope, but it's always hard to tell.
As for the game, with O'Connor I can see us winning; without him I can't.

Another top of the league game, these are getting old now ffs

Expect it to be tough but we're playing with confidence at home or away, so going for either 2-1 or 3-1 Livi. Sparky might come off the bench at some point too, would be good if he could score a goal to start where he left off.

The winner of this game will win the league so expect a draw

As stated earlier in thread gate for the ICT match was 3547. I jus can`t see the gate being 4000+ but you never know I suppose.

Got to say i'm hoping for a 4000ish crowd...as for game will wait see squad news cause it seems to get added to every week

Yes I see that's been posted now, but it hadn't been at the time I started composing my interrupted masterpiece.

Anyway, that figure actually gives me some hope that we might get near 4,000. If you take into account that Livingston should bring a few hundred, alongside the fact that our gates have been holding up well already this season, then who knows?
Not that the 4,000 barrier is in any way significant of course. The encouraging thing is that a good crowd and atmosphere should be guaranteed.
I just think that if we lose, Livingston are already very well placed and will need a bit of reeling in by someone before Christmas.

I hadn`t noticed you had posted so soon after my initial post.

Right Motor mouth i think you better cool your jets and quit writing off the "in form" team that are sittin top of the league at the moment! right enough we should be winning our home games but i still wont be ruling out livi taking somethin from this!

and whoever is mouthing about callum elliot being shit could do to settle down as his scoring record is quite impressive and is/was very highly rated at hearts.

Really hope that we can knock the lavvie franchise off the top of the league.

I'll go Queens 2 franchise 1 (Dobbie and Tosher) crowd 3419

All true - Livingston are in the habit at the moment of burning off their nearest challengers, and a win for us next week, would therefore in that context be a fantastic result.

You'd think people would learn about slagging off players ahead of games - especially good ones.

KingfaetheSooth, obsessed with Franchise FC

Don`t take it personally it`s not just you. He loves MK Dongs and Airdrie United too

Ocht leave the poor man to nurse his bitterness. It may be one of the only pleasures he has in his life.

I think it rests with Sean O' Connor. We never do well when he plays. Get well soon Sean but just not before Saturday.

I'd be fairly sure we'll go top on Saturday with home advantage being a big factor.
I would not expect to stay there long.We are too inconsistent for that.
I think some are getting carried away with themselves at what is a very early stage of the league.No doubt one or more teams will emerge from the pack but I wouldn't like to put money on who it will be.It could be any two of four or five teams.
I certainly don't see the presence or absence of O'Connor as the all important factor as some seem to do.

I take it you were referring to my post as no one else has commented on him. I don't think I have stated he is shit therefore I don't think I need to settle down .

I have merely stated that the times I have watched him he was poor but since moving to Livi he has done well. I think that's nearer praise than a slagging!

I would say it is more a slagging you are giving him. If it was praise then why should Bell be embarassed?

This will be our biggest test in the league so far. I have been very surprised by Livi this year, we will need to be at our best to take somethingfrom this game. I'm looking forward to it. I think the crowd will be similar to the first game of the season cant see a 4000 crowd, maybe if it was near the end of the season and we are in the same position.

Well it wasn't supposed to be more of a compliment.

Maybe I should always put a smiley beside every comment I make as tongue in cheek as some people can't seem to understand them otherwise .

Even if it is tongue in cheek you don't slag off an in-form striker for the team you are about to play! Look at the Clyde fans with Arbuckle last week! It always comes back to bite you in the arse.

Jesus even when I say the words you can't understand what I mean. I WASN'T SLAGGING HIM!

U N D E R S T A N D?

Not obsessed, have not got any time for them.



Not bitter...just saying it how it is. Plenty of other pleasures in my life, but thanks for your concern.

Having seen both teams this season Id say this could go either way. Neither Queens nor Livvy are any better than Thistle. Queens beat us when the result could have been the other way round and we outplayed Livvy the first time and were knackered yesterday. Dunfermline, St Johnstone and Dundee were beaten easily by us yet Ross County beat us and Airdrie were unlucky not to get a point from us. So this league makes no sense. No one team is better than the other.

This league could go to any team. Queens and Livvy are top2 by virtue of the fact that none of the other teams have been consistant enough. As regards crowd size for this table topper a lot will depend on where Rangers are playing and when. Dumfries is one of my favourite towns to visit but they are probably more than most in this league made up by Rangers supporters in the main as has been established before. Im going to take a draw for this one, but I believe that Queens, Livvy, Thistle, Dundee, St Johnstone and Dunfermline will all be within 10-15 points of each other at the end of the season and any of these teams is capable of winning the league. Once we have our 2 best players back we will certainly be up there.

* So would that still be the case if it was Saints top and Dundee second?

** Disagree. I don't think any team in this league has in attendance fans that just support the team they are watching. There may well be a fair few fans that visit Palmerston and are "True Blue's" yet they have no idea where I8rox is so they will go to Palmerston anyway and wait for the score at half time.

In regards your first point, these two teams were expected to be ahead of the other but the simple fact is they are not any better than Queens, Livvy, Thistle. That is fairly obvious.

As regards your second point, you admit yourself that your fanbase is made up by Rangers fans when the numbers grow, this is not the same as in teams like Thistle, Dundee, St Johnstone etc so I would disagree. Queens have been a part-time team for years, full-time support is only their because of these guys, which is fans that the other teams dont rely on.

I like Queens and the true fans I meet down their are great guys, but when you allude to crowd sizes, size of the club and fanbases this is distorted slightly.

Thats some travelling support.
Then again it is 86 miles.

* No I didn't. When the crowds grow it is a mix of people who want to see a team that is playing well or people that are QoS fans when they are doing well, that doesn't automatically make these people Rangers fans.

QoS have a hardcore of about 1600. Whether most of this lot are Rangers fans is unknown as they are there every 2nd week no matter who Rangers play so to me they are QoS first and TBH if they like Rangers/ support Rangers I couldn't care as their money is going to QoS. Personally though I think we have at least 1250 say that are QoS through and through. I think every ground has there "Die Hard" Rangers and Celtic fans. QoS is no better or worse than any other club IMO.

**We were for years. Not now .

league table would suggest otherwise.do parrtick have strenght in depth, because thats one of the most important factors in a challenging team-being able to rotate.Do you think that your lot will be up there - because your manager seems to think a top 5 finish would be brilliant. His mind games arent working, he keeps spouting this pish evry single week and its boring-its all you ever hear after the jags get beat. And as your regards to your point about rangers, Yes we have some idiots who support the old firm, but the thing about all of these new fans is that they are young- There is a lot of junior blues which is so encouraging as they are going to be the new generation of fans that will come to see their local team.

Fair play to Livi so far though. They really have got their act together this season.

In common with most of Scotland buses leave Dumfries for ibrox and parkhead every time there is a game and going by the amount of strips visible in Dumfries both sides of the old scum are too prevalent in Dumfries.

However it has been great to see a huge increase in the number of Queens strips up the town over the past year

Im thinking of a really close game not many chances
and macfarlene yes macfarlene to score to take to top of the league

1-0
macci f

I don't think you playing at home is an advantage this season against Livi, we've beaten the Pars and Dundee away when it was top of the league games, Landi says he plays the same home and away, that's exactly what he does. I'm really looking forward to this game, we've been terrible against you in the past but all that goes for nowt this season, should be a terrific game, i wouldn't be disappointed with a draw, but just can't see it, we've not drawn a game yet, one of us will leave disappointed with nil points, hope it's not us.

When you beat us we had Dave MacKay, James McPake and no striker playing, yesterday we had them playing plus a striker who's scored 5 in 3 gaems, pretty easy to see the difference in the 2 games. You may have suffered from your midweek game, who knows, we'll see next time and hopefully we'll both have no excuses.

On no one being better than anyone else, i can't agree or we'd all be on the same points, whilst anyone can beat anyone else if your not on your game and the players giving their all, some teams are more consistant in giving their all and maybe some are better than others at taking their chances.



Exactly, no teams been consistant enough, thats what wins leagues, also likely that every team will hit a spell where they lose form, that's when you'll see who can come back from it quickly and grind out results.

I don't think I'll go to the game on Sat...the LAC might be there...

They might sing at me

Rubbish. There are Rangers supporters in every town in Scotland. Dumfries and Queen of the South is no different to any other provincial Scottish town/club. Who established this - you!? I remember Hearts fans saying in the 70's that Dumfries was a catholic-Celtic-supporting-town. These things are just crap that bigoted fans say to justify their own heinous beliefs.

It is still early days but things are looking promising. I recall going on holiday for Christmas last year on the day we beat Stirling away (15th December), taking our points tally to 14. This year we already have 15 and seem to be picking up points when maybe we are not playing so well, which I am sure every Queens fan will be happy with.

Saturday will be a big test, so a result in this one should have everyone from fans to players buzzing. I see no reason why we cannot win and should go into the match feeling confident. Of course the same could be said for Livi who themselves have had a terrific start to the season.

So lets be happy with our lot and enjoy being up at the top instead of propping up the league at this time of the season.

Looking forward to this one. Palmerston isn't a place we've enjoyed going to recently, so I'm hoping that with our new found form we can at least take a point.

If we win at Palmerston that'll put us 5 points clear minimum. Having said that, if we lose, we're no longer top. Now there's a long way to go but 5 poitns clear is a good signal of intent at this stage.

I think we may struggle under the high ball played into the box. Martini doesn't like being put under pressure. With that, I think O'Connor may swing the game if he plays.

I'm feeling confident. 2-1 Livi if O'Connor's out, 2-2 if he's in.

I would doubt if O'Connor will be fit for Saturday.
I have mixed feelings about that.
O'Connor playing seems to encourage a 'route one' mentality in the side which is not all that productive and has been difficult to abandon while he's been out of the side.

I wouldn't expect to see Sean back before the International Break, it'd make sense to give him another weeks rest before bringing him back, we know that he doesn't train to the same extent as all the other players, so his fitness will be lacking and another week won't be that much of a hardship I don't think. Better that he's fit 100% and back for consectutive games, than comes in for one game 50% fit and gets injured again.

Agree, it'd be stupid to rush him back when the international break will give him an extra two weeks recovery time.

Another factor will be if Harris is out which will be a big loss.

We should get at least 3500 for this game I would have thought but I'm expecting a tough match but won't complain if we're beaten by a better team, bring it on.