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The Naitch
Can't see a thread on it, so here goes...

Still looking for our first win of the season, and don't think we'll get that on Saturday either. Draw for me.

Thoughts anyone?
vikingTON
We need a win again - you lot know what to do by now...
Dr Koop
Hopefully Thistle will give a bugger about this encounter. Unlike the last time. dry.gif
johnjag
QUOTE (The Naitch @ Sep 16 2008, 18:46) *
Can't see a thread on it, so here goes...

Still looking for our first win of the season, and don't think we'll get that on Saturday either. Draw for me.

Thoughts anyone?

My son will be Thistle's mascot on Saturday so I hope you get your first win next week....oh...and no bad language or uncivil behaviour from you Greenock boys please. wink.gif
Dr Koop
Expect the usual gentility from the Jags support, John.
Nizzy
I've criticised McCall for tinkering in the past, but I'd like to see a few changes on Saturday, not least because the thought of Paul Paton coming up against Jim McAlister is giving me nightmares.

I'd go for:

Tuffey

Robertson Storey Maxwell Twaddle

Lennon Turner Harkins McKinlay

Roberts Gray
johnjag
QUOTE (Dr Koop @ Sep 16 2008, 20:25) *
Expect the usual gentility from the Jags support, John.

I'm sure he'll cope, just don't laugh if he falls on his arse as he runs on to the pitch.
MTJ
Would go with.

Tuffey
Storey
Robertson---Maxwell
Lennon---Turner---Harkins---Twaddle
Chaplain
Gray---Roberts


However thats never going to happen as David Rowson is deemed un-droppable by McCall.
Exuberant
I think we have to persevere with 3-5-2. There's something about 4-4-2 that just doesn't seem to click with our current squad.

That said, that line-up Nizzy's put down looks like an interesting one. I'd like to see what Lennon really offers us when in a more natural position of his. Dropping Rowson may be controversial, but on current form, Harkins and Turner have done more to merit a start.

How would Paton shape up on the right of a 4 midfield? Just a thought.

QUOTE (MTJ @ Sep 16 2008, 21:13) *
Would go with.

Tuffey
Storey
Robertson---Maxwell
Lennon---Turner---Harkins---Twaddle
Chaplain
Gray---Roberts


However thats never going to happen as David Rowson is deemed un-droppable by McCall.


That Lennon Twaddle flanking looks very suspect to me. Gotta be a no.

I'd go:


Tuffey
Robertson Storey Maxwell
Paton _____________________Twaddle
Lennon Turner
Harkins
Gray Roberts

Pesadilla
I think there'll be a huge crowd with much mutual masturbation. A great advert for the division.


0-0
MTJ
QUOTE (Pesadilla @ Sep 16 2008, 21:14) *
I think there'll be a huge crowd with much mutual masturbation. A great advert for the division.


0-0

A bit different compared to the man and his dog who make up the Airdrie support.
Pesadilla
QUOTE (MTJ @ Sep 16 2008, 21:15) *
A bit different compared to the man and his dog who make up the Airdrie support.



'Tis a rabid Nazi dog with three legs and a glass eye, though. Worth the admission money alone.
Dark Blue
Hopefully Thistle have an off day but I dont see this happening. Im going for a 2-1 home win.
Nizzy
QUOTE (Exuberant @ Sep 16 2008, 21:14) *
I'd go:


Tuffey
Robertson Storey Maxwell
Paton _____________________Twaddle
Lennon Turner
Harkins
Gray Roberts

Lennon's far to lightweight to be played in the centre of midfield. I wouldn't have him there on a month of Sundays. Pop him in where you've placed Harkins and I might consider that line up, but I'd rather see what he's capable of when played wide right.
Exuberant
QUOTE (Nizzy @ Sep 16 2008, 21:19) *
Lennon's far to lightweight to be played in the centre of midfield. I wouldn't have him there on a month of Sundays. Pop him in where you've placed Harkins and I might consider that line up, but I'd rather see what he's capable of when played wide right.


I was thinking about having him in the AM position but I think it would be an idea to see how Harkins would fare as that link-up between midfield and strikers.

By all accounts, Chaplain had a reasonable game against Clyde, and McKeown did well in the reserves today. Possibly a midfield of Turner, Harkins and McKeown?
MTJ
QUOTE (Exuberant @ Sep 16 2008, 21:14) *
I think we have to persevere with 3-5-2. There's something about 4-4-2 that just doesn't seem to click with our current squad.

That said, that line-up Nizzy's put down looks like an interesting one. I'd like to see what Lennon really offers us when in a more natural position of his. Dropping Rowson may be controversial, but on current form, Harkins and Turner have done more to merit a start.

How would Paton shape up on the right of a 4 midfield? Just a thought.



That Lennon Twaddle flanking looks very suspect to me. Gotta be a no.

I'd go:


Tuffey
Robertson Storey Maxwell
Paton _____________________Twaddle
Lennon Turner
Harkins
Gray Roberts

Lennon is an awful striker, but if there is one thing hes got going for him he can run, and run pretty fast, plus hes played this position well before for Scotland. Add in the fact Paton is a donkey who I wouldn't consider again until he gets a left foot, its our next best option I think. Twaddle is much stronger going forward too so pushing him further up could benefit him I think.

Also Nizzy said, McAllister is a right footed left sided player, the thought of him cutting inside onto Paton's left turning him inside out is giving me nightmares of Dorrans and Storey.
Nizzy
QUOTE (Exuberant @ Sep 16 2008, 21:23) *
Possibly a midfield of Turner, Harkins and McKeown?

McKeown's returning from injury and Turner's building up his fitness. It would be crazy to play them in the same midfield. However, I think Rowson's been poor recently and should drop to the bench. He can come on for Turner if Chris is starting to run out of puff.
Exuberant
QUOTE (MTJ @ Sep 16 2008, 21:24) *
Lennon is an awful striker, but if there is one thing hes got going for him he can run, and run pretty fast, plus hes played this position well before for Scotland.


I could understand having him there and McKinlay on the other side, but Twaddle is just too much of a defender for me.

That said, Paton's been so weak defensively that it's probably just as unbalanced with him!

QUOTE (Nizzy @ Sep 16 2008, 21:27) *
McKeown's returning from injury and Turner's building up his fitness. It would be crazy to play them in the same midfield. However, I think Rowson's been poor recently and should drop to the bench. He can come on for Turner if Chris is starting to run out of puff.


Fair point. Chaplain then until McKeown's fit?
PTFC27
I'd like to say we will win this comfortably but when do ever to that when we are supposed to. I predict it'll be 1-1.

Tuffey
Robertson Storey Maxwell
Paton - - - - - - - - - -Twaddle
Turner Harkins
Chaplain
Gray Donnelly
Nizzy
QUOTE (Exuberant @ Sep 16 2008, 21:28) *
Fair point. Chaplain then until McKeown's fit?

Nope. Drop him and go with four across the middle.
Stevie Aitken's Love Child
Hang on, I thought it was supposed to be Clyde fans that had an obsession with formations blink.gif
Dublinjag
QUOTE (MTJ @ Sep 16 2008, 21:24) *
Lennon is an awful striker, but if there is one thing hes got going for him he can run, and run pretty fast, plus hes played this position well before for Scotland. Add in the fact Paton is a donkey who I wouldn't consider again until he gets a left foot, its our next best option I think. Twaddle is much stronger going forward too so pushing him further up could benefit him I think.

Also as Nizzy said, McAllister is a right footed left sided player, the thought of him cutting inside onto Paton's left turning him inside out is giving me nightmares of Dorrans and Storey.


Oh yeah, run "pretty" fast.  Pretty much.  I've played in the same team as those kinda blokes thousands of times.  Players like Harkins never know where they're actually going  to be, within five yards  ...
Dublinjag
QUOTE (The Naitch @ Sep 16 2008, 18:46) *
Can't see a thread on it, so here goes...

Still looking for our first win of the season, and don't think we'll get that on Saturday either. Draw for me.

Thoughts anyone?

 I can't even see the needle (no, not that one), nevermind the thread,  but then again I've been asked by the little hitlers, herein, if I wouldn't mind using the Guinness smiley.   What chance have you got in life? 

And Jaysus, that LAC thread says it all, dunnit, a'body? My kids watch reality tv but this here just takes me back to the 70s Shed ...
Dr Koop
QUOTE (Exuberant @ Sep 16 2008, 21:28) *
Chaplain then until McKeown's fit?



McKeown looked up to the game this afternoon. Gray put in a lot of work. Buchanan was hooked about 25 minutes in. Looked like a precautionary move.
PTFC27
QUOTE (MTJ @ Sep 16 2008, 21:24) *
Lennon is an awful striker, but if there is one thing hes got going for him he can run, and run pretty fast, plus hes played this position well before for Scotland. Add in the fact Paton is a donkey who I wouldn't consider again until he gets a left foot, its our next best option I think. Twaddle is much stronger going forward too so pushing him further up could benefit him I think.

Also Nizzy said, McAllister is a right footed left sided player, the thought of him cutting inside onto Paton's left turning him inside out is giving me nightmares of Dorrans and Storey.



Nothing to do with this but great sig.
Exuberant
QUOTE (Dr Koop @ Sep 16 2008, 22:14) *
McKeown looked up to the game this afternoon. Gray put in a lot of work. Buchanan was hooked about 25 minutes in. Looked like a precautionary move.


43 minutes in according to .net?

If McKeown looked spritely this afternoon, he'd at least be worth a sub appearance on Saturday.
Exuberant
QUOTE (PTFC27 @ Sep 16 2008, 22:18) *
Nothing to do with this but great sig.


Designed by a Celtic fan!
Dr. Name
I think criticism of Paton is harsh. They play different football on each flank. Though Paton has no left foot and limited mobility, he hasnt given away two penalties this season like twaddle (who i think we've still to see the best of). TBH, Twaddle is much more of a valuable asset to the team because of the way he links up with Donnelly in the last third, as well as having the luxury of passing back to Maxy who can swing in a good ball. This doesnt happen on the right mainly because of Lennon, and the fact that Paton isnt going to beat anybody and take it to the by line like Twaddle. Plus he doesnt have the luxury of passing it back for a better cross from Robbo.

Dont know where this came from or who its directed to, just an observation. wink.gif
Nizzy
Paton's delivery is excellent, but he's not particularly adept at going forward or defending - the two things required of a wing back.
PTFC27
QUOTE (Exuberant @ Sep 16 2008, 22:34) *
Designed by a Celtic fan!



What's wrong with that. There eh... nice people.
Dr. Name
QUOTE (Nizzy @ Sep 16 2008, 22:42) *
Paton's delivery is excellent, but he's not particularly adept at going forward or defending - the two things required of a wing back.


Agreed, he seems a bit rigid. Kinda like Storey, but Storey doesnt need to get forward. Speacial mention to Storey btw who has been immense, yet anonymous in his new role.
BluebirdTon
Hope we can sneak it 1-0.

It would be a good place to snatch our first win at.
The Arch
I'm looking forward to a selection of unbiased match reports from Morton fans, if QOTS fans are to be believed. A win would be nice too.
Dr. Name
Not forgetting the 3-0 heartless attempt at an end of the season dignity win. Ill say 3-0 Thistle
Dunning1874
QUOTE (MTJ @ Sep 16 2008, 21:13) *
Would go with.

Tuffey
Storey
Robertson---Maxwell
Lennon---Turner---Harkins---Twaddle
Chaplain
Gray---Roberts


However thats never going to happen as David Rowson is deemed un-droppable by McCall.


If Lennon plays at right wing back then McAlister really will be able to wreak havoc, seen as Lennon's not likely to power up and down the wing doing the defensive work all day.

I can't say I'm confident about this, but you never know, we might just click on the day, as we only seem to be doing that in the cups. IMO we should be more positive too - let's have McAlister pushed further forward as Thistle have never had much joy dealing with him.
Dublinjag
QUOTE (PTFC27 @ Sep 16 2008, 22:43) *
What's wrong with that. There eh... nice people.


Yeh fell for the post-modern, yet again.  The Tom Foolery  ...
Dublinjag
QUOTE (Exuberant @ Sep 16 2008, 22:34) *
Designed by a Celtic fan!


Where are you, Dizzy/Ms Nizzy, the Arch/bishop, and Mr Koopon jist cummin frae, eh, as Thistle fans?   Don't let me down. Ye sound like a "smug, preening lot" as has been often said elsewhere.    Where ur ye cummin frae, eh? Disisthistle ... for f**k's sake ... ?
MTJ
QUOTE (Dunning1874 @ Sep 16 2008, 23:47) *
If Lennon plays at right wing back then McAlister really will be able to wreak havoc, seen as Lennon's not likely to power up and down the wing doing the defensive work all day.

I can't say I'm confident about this, but you never know, we might just click on the day, as we only seem to be doing that in the cups. IMO we should be more positive too - let's have McAlister pushed further forward as Thistle have never had much joy dealing with him.

I'm saying right wing, not wing backs liked we've played with previously. Stevie boy would rip my old pal Chrissy boy (if hes been playing left back like I've been told) who is not a left back btw a new arsehole there. wink.gif
Exuberant
QUOTE (Dublinjag @ Sep 17 2008, 00:07) *
Where are you, Dizzy/Ms Nizzy, the Arch/bishop, and Mr Koopon jist cummin frae, eh, as Thistle fans? Don't let me down. Ye sound like a "smug, preening lot" as has been often said elsewhere. Where ur ye cummin frae, eh? Disisthistle ... for f**k's sake ... ?


Pardon?

The point was that one of the best entries for the Shed's new logo came from a Celtic fan. An unlikely source to say the least.

P.S. Can I have a nickname too?
sainteesean
hoping for a win for the ton or at least a draw (anything but partick picking up the 3 points, but looking at recent form (which matters nowt) this season, i cant see past a 3-1 win for partick
port-ton
I'm glad we're finally getting to play the only team we can beat, fully expect partick to lie down as usual and give us our first win of the season, they're nice chaps y'see.
Dublinjag
QUOTE (Exuberant @ Sep 17 2008, 00:16) *
Pardon?

The point was that one of the best entries for the Shed's new logo came from a Celtic fan. An unlikely source to say the least.

P.S. Can I have a nickname too?


That is loopy shit, all the way from Nomad, Dubllin, Ireland, loopy shit ...
John Barleycorn
QUOTE (port-ton @ Sep 17 2008, 00:21) *
I'm glad we're finally getting to play the only team we can beat, fully expect partick to lie down as usual and give us our first win of the season, they're nice chaps y'see.


Won't work laddie, Partick to hump you lot by three clear goals. tongue.gif
C'mon the Jags. biggrin.gif
The Arch
QUOTE (Dublinjag @ Sep 17 2008, 00:07) *
Where are you, Dizzy/Ms Nizzy, the Arch/bishop, and Mr Koopon jist cummin frae, eh, as Thistle fans? Don't let me down. Ye sound like a "smug, preening lot" as has been often said elsewhere. Where ur ye cummin frae, eh? Disisthistle ... for f**k's sake ... ?

I ain't part of no clique.
H Wragg
QUOTE (port-ton @ Sep 17 2008, 00:21) *
I'm glad we're finally getting to play the only team we can beat, fully expect partick to lie down as usual and give us our first win of the season, they're nice chaps y'see.

As has been said before, we have a great knack of losing games we should win on paper. I recall playing Morton at Cappielow early one season, circa 1990, where the 'Ton had played 6, lost 6, whereas we had had an OK start. Final score 4-0 to Morton.
Morton fans should not be at all surprised to take at least a point on Saturday. That said, I predict 2-0 for The Jags. tongue.gif
morton1874
QUOTE (port-ton @ Sep 17 2008, 00:21) *
I'm glad we're finally getting to play the only team we can beat, fully expect partick to lie down as usual and give us our first win of the season, they're nice chaps y'see.



Away and lie down. Were going to get horsed.
Dr Koop
QUOTE (Exuberant @ Sep 16 2008, 22:33) *
43 minutes in according to .net?




That font of all knowledge. rolleyes.gif I was soaked and frozen, perhaps time stood still.
Dr Koop
QUOTE (John Barleycorn @ Sep 17 2008, 08:40) *
Won't work laddie, Partick to hump you lot by three clear goals. tongue.gif
C'mon the Jags. biggrin.gif


That would be nice, but given that Thistle played like a bunch of big girls' blouses last time Morton called I seriously doubt a scoreline like that.
vikingTON
Reasons why Morton could win on Saturday:
1. We're currently unbeaten in 7 matches against Partick.
2. We have a generally good record against Partick.
3. Morton ended a 6 game spell without a win last autumn with a win over Partick.
4. Morton were abysmal last year and stayed unbeaten against Partick.
5. 2 (TWO) successive clean sheets for Morton.
6. Partick drew with Clyde.
7. Erm, we'll bring a few fans along.

Not going to list the several hundred reasons why we will be expected to lose this game though.
morton1874
QUOTE (vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 15:11) *
Reasons why Morton could win on Saturday:
1. We're currently unbeaten in 7 matches against Partick.
2. We have a generally good record against Partick.
3. Morton ended a 6 game spell without a win last autumn with a win over Partick.
4. Morton were abysmal last year and stayed unbeaten against Partick.
5. 2 (TWO) successive clean sheets for Morton.
6. Partick drew with Clyde.
7. Erm, we'll bring a few fans along.

Not going to list the several hundred reasons why we will be expected to lose this game though.


Reasons why Morton could lose on Saturday:
1. We're currently unbeaten in 7 matches against Partick.
2. We have a generally good record against Partick.
3. Morton ended a 6 game spell without a win last autumn with a win over Partick.
4. Morton were abysmal last year and stayed unbeaten against Partick.
5. 2 (TWO) successive clean sheets for Morton.
6. Partick drew with Clyde.
7. Erm, we'll bring a few fans along.


Im confident if i remain pesimistic then i cant be disappointed.
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