paul-r-cfc
Sep 14 2008, 13:17
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...tic/7615298.stmCeltic midfielder Shunsuke Nakamura has indicated he wants to return to his native Japan and could leave in the January transfer window. The Japan international says he wants to go home for the good of his family after three years in Scotland.
zenith st.petersburg
Sep 14 2008, 14:33
Think we have seen the best of Naka though i would prefer to keep him till end of the season if we are in europe after xmas.
calum_gers
Sep 14 2008, 14:43
Best performance by Celtic in a while yesterday, and he was nowhere to be seen. Celtic are better off without him. He's too much of a luxury.
Bloobell
Sep 14 2008, 15:03
QUOTE (paul-r-cfc @ Sep 14 2008, 14:17)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...tic/7615298.stmCeltic midfielder Shunsuke Nakamura has indicated he wants to return to his native Japan and could leave in the January transfer window. The Japan international says he wants to go home for the good of his family after three years in Scotland.
Will anyone notice?
A few free kicks, generally won by him diving, and not much else
LordHawHaw
Sep 14 2008, 18:07
Be sad to see him go, if he does, a real talent that you'd pay to watch. He has this season and we have the option of ading another season if I am correct
bairnagain
Sep 14 2008, 18:08
I take it the wrong folk are taking the hint about going home then?
LordHawHaw
Sep 14 2008, 18:16
QUOTE (bairnagain @ Sep 14 2008, 19:08)

I take it the wrong folk are taking the hint about going home then?
He might be offended by the Naka ate my dog racism that we Scots seem to like, I know that it's been mentioned in a few articles I've seen.
ChampionsElect
Sep 14 2008, 20:07
With time and space on the ball he is the most naturally gifted player in the SPL. Shame he is to lightweight and can't tackle. Don't particularly want to see him go but wouldn't be bothered if he did.
Though his home team are in the relegation zone of their league and their season ends in December, you would wonder if he would like to go back if they do get relegated
glasnost
Sep 15 2008, 09:54
As I said, probably the most naturally gifted football at Celtic but he doesn’t do enough for me and is a luxury player we cannot afford to have in the team for certain games ie away to the huns, away in Europe.
It wouldn’t bother me if he went. I wonder if him going would also mean Mizuno also going.
QUOTE (glasnost @ Sep 15 2008, 10:54)

As I said, probably the most naturally gifted football at Celtic but he doesn't do enough for me and is a luxury player we cannot afford to have in the team for certain games ie away to the huns, away in Europe.
It wouldn't bother me if he went. I wonder if him going would also mean Mizuno also going.
I think Mizuno is in there as a replacement for Naka. He was tipped to be the next big thing from Japan so maybe that means more cash from that market
glasnost
Sep 15 2008, 12:30
QUOTE (sev @ Sep 15 2008, 10:58)

I think Mizuno is in there as a replacement for Naka. He was tipped to be the next big thing from Japan so maybe that means more cash from that market
I wouldn't be surprised if he left us once Nakamura goes.
As an aside, what was worrying was the following comment from Nakamura about Peter Lawwell. I wonder how much involvement he actually has in team matters.
"My agent has already spoken to a few teams in Japan. Lawwell hasn't said he doesn't need me yet so I honestly don't know what will happen.
"I always wanted to experience Spain but I'm really enjoying Scotland. Plus Peter was never willing sell me!"
QUOTE (LordHawHaw @ Sep 14 2008, 19:16)

He might be offended by the Naka ate my dog racism that we Scots seem to like
Will he still be able to vote for Sinn Feinn if he moves back to Japan? Presumably a postal vote can be arranged or something?
Millfield Marksman
Sep 15 2008, 12:39
QUOTE (LordHawHaw @ Sep 14 2008, 19:16)

He might be offended by the Naka ate my dog racism that we Scots seem to like, I know that it's been mentioned in a few articles I've seen.
Will he be able to find chow mein - apparently his real favourite food - back home?
LordHawHaw
Sep 15 2008, 13:01
Disappointing if the modern game starts to edge out entertainers like Naka, he's been a joy to watch, For me I think his linking play and skill outweighs his lack in other areas..If I remember correctly some of the excellent play in the first half V Motherwell was similar in nature to what we seen V Falkirk in the latter stages of the game, Crosas, McGeady and Naka played then....we had a forward moving mid with guys that could move the ball about quickly on the floor up front.
QUOTE (My Garden Shed @ Sep 15 2008, 13:36)

Will he still be able to vote for Sinn Feinn if he moves back to Japan? Presumably a postal vote can be arranged or something?
QUOTE (Millfield Marksman @ Sep 15 2008, 13:39)

Will he be able to find chow mein - apparently his real favourite food - back home?
Whilst taking you point guys and not wanting to destroy this thread with a debate on a song I've heard a few times and by no greater than 20/30 people, the context and humour of that song makes it totally different in nature from the "ate my dog" one
Millfield Marksman
Sep 15 2008, 13:04
QUOTE (LordHawHaw @ Sep 15 2008, 14:01)

Whilst taking you point guys and not wanting to destroy this thread with a debate on a song I've heard a few times and by no greater than 20/30 people, the context and humour of that song makes it totally different in nature from the "ate my dog" one
Aye. When your fans are being casually racist, it's context and humour. Can you give me the name of the shop that sells you your blank rule books?
QUOTE (LordHawHaw @ Sep 15 2008, 14:01)

the context and humour of that song makes it totally different in nature from the "ate my dog" one
Disagree. Both ignorant.
On glasnost's point, didn't Kenny Miller make a similar point when he left about Lawwell shoving him out the door?
glasnost
Sep 15 2008, 13:05
QUOTE (LordHawHaw @ Sep 15 2008, 14:01)

Disappointing if the modern game starts to edge out entertainers like Naka, he's been a joy to watch, For me I think his linking play and skill outweighs his lack in other areas..If I remember correctly some of the excellent play in the first half V Motherwell was similar in nature to what we seen V Falkirk in the latter stages of the game, Crosas, McGeady and Naka played then....we had a forward moving mid with guys that could move the ball about quickly on the floor up front.
The problem is that he is a luxury that we can barely afford away from home. At times playing him has been detrimental to the team overall ie Shakhtar away last season. We aren’t Arsenal or Barcelona and as such we cannot afford to carry passengers.
LordHawHaw
Sep 15 2008, 13:09
QUOTE (Millfield Marksman @ Sep 15 2008, 14:04)

Aye. When your fans are being casually racist, it's context and humour. Can you give me the name of the shop that sells you your blank rule books?
I'm aware that his is not my therad or one of the jousting ones that has been posted SO I'll post this and no more on this thread about the songs....I'm pretty consistant in how
I understand racisim in all it's forms, there has to be a element of something derogatory for it to apply in any real sense. Scots being thrifty V mean for instance.
LordHawHaw
Sep 15 2008, 13:11
QUOTE (glasnost @ Sep 15 2008, 14:05)

The problem is that he is a luxury that we can barely afford away from home. At times playing him has been detrimental to the team overall ie Shakhtar away last season. We aren’t Arsenal or Barcelona and as such we cannot afford to carry passengers.
I think he's always capable by a bit of skill to either get a gaol himself or by picking out a player in a great position, we've seen lots of that...1 min in 90 might be enough for him if he scores that goal. I do take your point however.
glasnost
Sep 15 2008, 13:19
QUOTE (LordHawHaw @ Sep 15 2008, 14:11)

I think he's always capable by a bit of skill to either get a gaol himself or by picking out a player in a great position, we've seen lots of that...1 min in 90 might be enough for him if he scores that goal. I do take your point however.
But playing a player just because he hits a good free kick is a luxury we cannot afford. Away from home in Europe save for his free kick vs Man Utd, he has done very little and as I said playing him can do more harm than good. Similarly against the huns at their midden he does nothing. I’d rather have players in that contribute when the going gets though.
LordHawHaw
Sep 15 2008, 13:32
QUOTE (glasnost @ Sep 15 2008, 14:19)

But playing a player just because he hits a good free kick is a luxury we cannot afford. Away from home in Europe save for his free kick vs Man Utd, he has done very little and as I said playing him can do more harm than good. Similarly against the huns at their midden he does nothing. I’d rather have players in that contribute when the going gets though.
Maybe, just don't like seeing a talent like that not playing, we should get bobo to shadow him as minder
Beyemystic
Sep 15 2008, 14:32
QUOTE (glasnost @ Sep 15 2008, 13:30)

I wouldn't be surprised if he left us once Nakamura goes.
As an aside, what was worrying was the following comment from Nakamura about Peter Lawwell. I wonder how much involvement he actually has in team matters.
"My agent has already spoken to a few teams in Japan. Lawwell hasn't said he doesn't need me yet so I honestly don't know what will happen.
"I always wanted to experience Spain but I'm really enjoying Scotland. Plus Peter was never willing sell me!"
Perhaps cheap option Strachan is even more of a pathetic yes man and patsy than we first thought?
Seanaldinho
Sep 16 2008, 13:39
I don't think Celtic would miss him to be honest.
I think Barry Robson's corners are just as good, and while maybe his free kicks aren't, he's less of a passenger, tracks back more etc.
ChampionsElect
Sep 16 2008, 14:00
QUOTE (Seanaldinho @ Sep 16 2008, 14:39)

I don't think Celtic would miss him to be honest.
I think Barry Robson's corners are just as good, and while maybe his free kicks aren't, he's less of a passenger, tracks back more etc.
Pretty much.
Only thing Naka has over him is the ability to win us a game with one free kick, but you cannot justify keeping him on for a whole game while he does f**k all.
fatman76
Sep 16 2008, 14:40
Who cares if Naka leaves. Sellick will just sign another player that offers similar attributes and us Huns will find a similar racist chant to sing about the new player. So happy days on all fronts.
P.S Please dont report me to anyone about my view on the matter it's just the way of the world.
Millfield Marksman
Sep 16 2008, 14:42
QUOTE (fatman76 @ Sep 16 2008, 15:40)

Who cares if Naka leaves. Sellick will just sign another player that offers similar attributes and us Huns will find a similar racist chant to sing about the new player. So happy days on all fronts.
P.S Please dont report me to anyone about my view on the matter it's just the way of the world.
So's having your club hauled up because of the behaviour of the fan base
fatman76
Sep 16 2008, 14:52
QUOTE (Millfield Marksman @ Sep 16 2008, 15:42)

So's having your club hauled up because of the behaviour of the fan base
Do you want to live in a politically correct world where there is no freedom of speech and you are penalised for having a view or opinion? If you do mate perhaps you should move to Belgium or Switzerland!
QUOTE (fatman76 @ Sep 16 2008, 15:52)

If you do mate perhaps you should move to Belgium or Switzerland!
Maybe you could come up with a song for him...?
Millfield Marksman
Sep 16 2008, 14:56
QUOTE (fatman76 @ Sep 16 2008, 15:52)

Do you want to live in a politically correct world where there is no freedom of speech and you are penalised for having a view or opinion?
You are penalised for expressing certain views or opinions, certainly. They are legally defined and, if you so wish, you are well within your rights to campaign for them to be changed. Best of luck
fatman76
Sep 16 2008, 15:27
QUOTE (Millfield Marksman @ Sep 16 2008, 15:56)

You are penalised for expressing certain views or opinions, certainly. They are legally defined and, if you so wish, you are well within your rights to campaign for them to be changed. Best of luck

We dont need to campaign, we just keep on going as we are and pay no regard to the politically correct. Football is built on political and religious rivalries as well as being very entertaining for the masses. Fifa and uefa dont realise they are killing the game by taking this away from the fans. I would like to see them try this with some of the South American rivalries.
Millfield Marksman
Sep 16 2008, 15:43
QUOTE (fatman76 @ Sep 16 2008, 16:27)

We dont need to campaign, we just keep on going as we are and pay no regard to the politically correct.
You run a few risks that way, but on you go
QUOTE
Football is built on political and religious rivalries as well as being very entertaining for the masses. Fifa and uefa dont realise they are killing the game by taking this away from the fans. I would like to see them try this with some of the South American rivalries.
Political rivalries abound overseas - I'm not sure that religious ones are so common. However, it's pretty much (only?) the OF in the UK that follows that path. Everywhere else football rivalry is based on the fact that the opposition eat rats in their coucil houses or they need a wash or some such ribaldry.
LordHawHaw
Sep 17 2008, 06:20
Is this story gathering pace? heard from "someone" (unusual for them to spread rumours, not that he's in the know) last night that a move is being seriously discussed, even at Xmas.
I'd be sorry to see such a talented player leave our club, as I''ve said prevously watching some of his play (not free kicks) can be worth the ticket price itself.
Not one to copy Rangers, but maybe the club should support the Jungle bhoys / Green Brigade in a decent tribute to the wee man
glasnost
Sep 17 2008, 09:16
QUOTE (LordHawHaw @ Sep 17 2008, 07:20)

I'd be sorry to see such a talented player leave our club, as I''ve said prevously watching some of his play (not free kicks) can be worth the ticket price itself.
I think you are going slightly overboard here.
QUOTE (LordHawHaw @ Sep 17 2008, 07:20)

Not one to copy Rangers, but maybe the club should support the Jungle bhoys / Green Brigade in a decent tribute to the wee man
The plc supporting the Green Brigade?
LordHawHaw
Sep 17 2008, 09:59
QUOTE (glasnost @ Sep 17 2008, 10:16)

I think you are going slightly overboard here.
It's all about opinions and what you get out of the game, I think Naka a joy to behold
QUOTE (glasnost @ Sep 17 2008, 10:16)

The plc supporting the Green Brigade?

Is this all down to the John Reid protests?
glasnost
Sep 17 2008, 10:04
QUOTE (LordHawHaw @ Sep 17 2008, 10:59)

It's all about opinions and what you get out of the game, I think Naka a joy to behold

I would have paid to watch someone like Di Canio who took games by the scruff of the neck, whilst still maintaining his absurd footballing ability, when often surrounded by dross. His performance in the 1-0 win at home to Aberdeen was just out of this world. I can’t think of anything Nakamura has done (free kicks aside) that would warrant me suggesting I’d have paid good money just to see him play.
QUOTE (LordHawHaw @ Sep 17 2008, 10:59)

Is this all down to the John Reid protests?
The plc have never welcomed the Green Brigade.
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