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SavotheGreat
Interesting proposal being spearheaded by the Lib Dems.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7613442.stm

edit: TO INCLUDE POLL.
Steve McQueen
I prefer to sit, if something happens then you can stand up.


The Lib Dems can say anything they want because they wont be elected.
sydney
Not so long ago, I would have voted "stand", but have voted "sit"- it's an age thing ! tongue.gif
Socks
About time this debate is being had. Not being given the option of standing is probably the one thing that has annoyed me the most about football in recent years. Frankly, I've had enough of this pandering to the emotional nonsense of Hillsborough that we keep hearing any time the proposal is mentioned. The anomolies in it are ridiculous, as pointed out in that article.

I don't have any problem with anyone who wants to sit - I have no desire to make them stand on a tarrace if they don't want to. All I want is a standing area where those WHO WANT to stand and watch a game can actually do so.

It's probably a bit away yet, but it's clear that the issue hasn't gone away despite the wishes of football administrators. I'm hopeful that we'll be able to rid ourselves of these all-seated grounds in my lifetime - they are after all relics of the last century.
ClydeSI
its bad enough having to watch clyde whilst sitting down just now, it would be murder if I had to stand as well.
PTFC27
Stand.
Gypsy Army Loyal
Stand
stuart.
It's weird how you have to sit in the stand
SQUIDGER
QUOTE (sydney @ Sep 14 2008, 10:02) *
Not so long ago, I would have voted "stand", but have voted "sit"- it's an age thing ! tongue.gif



Seconded, the old knees like to rest a bit sad.gif
Exuberant
Stand every time. You just can't get a proper rant in without standing up.
Booker_d
I used to watch Rushden and Diamonds when I was at uni and they had a safe terracing behind one of there goals. Was great for creating a bit of atmosphere. There were seats behind the other goal so you had a choice.

Average crowds were around the 3000 mark so its not something that wouldnt relate to up here.

Also was a bit cheaper to stand, an important factor.

But I agree with socks, who gives a toss what the lib dems say?
vikingTON
Standing is infinitely better.
Sauchiejag
Stand.
The Minertaur
Standing by miles. I am quite a tall chap so I have problems sitting down in stands in some grounds *cough* Cappielow *cough* laugh.gif
darkblue1893
Defo standing. Bring back old skool footie. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
Dunning1874
Standing every time. Obviously there should be seating areas too for those who want to sit, but there should always be a choice in the matter.

Oh, Cappielow is wonderful. biggrin.gif
RosscoTon
Anyone who vots 'sit' should be made to sit in the main stand at Cappielow for a full 90 minutes.
Fife Saint
I think having the choice is important. I don't know how they would implement any changes at Mcd or where in the ground.
Stevie Aitken's Love Child
Stand please smile.gif
Garrowhillclyde
Stand, as long as it has decent facilities - a roof, decent bogs and catering and enough exits, barriers, etc. Also important - better alongside the pitch rather than at the ends.

Looking back at the design of old stands at grounds still around the country (Firhill and East end Spring to mind from Div 1), a small terracing, not too deep in front of a stand does help create atmosphere. As long as they have all the requisite features mentioned above.
superairdrie
stand every time was the only good thing about being in the second division the amount of grounds you can still stand in
Paisley Plumber
Stand ... as long as I've a stanchion to lean on, it's an age thing wink.gif
dodgydi
stand. i love the terracing at palmerston, good atmosphere, good banter and a good view. couldnt think of anywhere else i would rather be on a saturday afternoon. smile.gif
gav-ffc
Stand all the way.
calcutta
QUOTE (The Minertaur @ Sep 14 2008, 13:12) *
Standing by miles. I am quite a tall chap so I have problems sitting down in stands in some grounds *cough* Cappielow *cough* laugh.gif


you're not kidding, I don't think the blood flow has returned below the knees, 24 hours after yesterdays game. If Queens ever make the step up to the SPL the major downwer will be the loss of the terracing at Pammy and the requirement to sit every week home and away.
Toby Fair
QUOTE (Garrowhillclyde @ Sep 14 2008, 16:00) *
Stand, as long as it has decent facilities - a roof, decent bogs and catering and enough exits, barriers, etc. Also important - better alongside the pitch rather than at the ends.

Looking back at the design of old stands at grounds still around the country (Firhill and East end Spring to mind from Div 1), a small terracing, not too deep in front of a stand does help create atmosphere. As long as they have all the requisite features mentioned above.



I didn't vote because I always sit in the Main Stand at Palmerston, but would hate to see the terracing disappear. It gives our ground something different and contributes greatly to the atmosphere. I've gone there for the two cup quarter finals over the last couple of seasons and it has been memorable.
My usual choice to sit has more to do with being high up and on the half way line for the same money than whether I get to sit down or not.
For some reason, I've also started standing up throughout half-time, a practice I used to mock. I think it must be an age thing.
A Broggie for me
Sit - standing should be outlawed at all levels of football, just encourages the teenagers to 'act-up'.
AyrshireTon
Standing - with the provision that both sets of fans are on the same section separated by wire fencing.

Entry to the SFL (from above) should require the ground to be made out of at least 15% corrugated iron and barbed wire.
Dr. Name
QUOTE (A Broggie for me @ Sep 14 2008, 19:34) *
Sit - standing should be outlawed at all levels of football, just encourages the teenagers to 'act-up'.


What? Are you from the nineties or something?

I hope those boys across the road dont start any hastle....Wait...isnt that?...*Hi mum*..Hi son, what you up to then?...*Im going with my friends to play footy in the park*...
robqosfc
Standing every time! Like a previous comment said, u cant get in a real rant if ur sitting! cant imagine palmerston with no terracing sad.gif
G_Man1985
Stand
Juan Sara
I'm for standing 100% helps create atmosphere and people are more likely to sing whilst standing.

I agree with the older guys though standing for an afternoon may not be easy for some, I think we should do what some German stadiums have, Terracing but they have seats that fold down from the handrails (if you know what I mean).
TeeMan
Stand for me. We were at two great grounds in Denmark (Nordjealland's and Brondby's which was particulaly good) and they both had provision for safe standing in small sections behind the goal.
EdinburghLivi
Unfortunately, I've never actually had to chance to stand on terracing. Although after a hard muckaround of Football in the morning, I'm quite content to sit.
Mr X
QUOTE (robqosfc @ Sep 14 2008, 22:10) *
Standing every time! Like a previous comment said, u cant get in a real rant if ur sitting! cant imagine palmerston with no terracing sad.gif

Come sit next to me in the main stand sometime and you'll see just how wrong you are wink.gif laugh.gif

I'd rather sit, but like others I wouldnt take away the option of standing for those who want to.
Dunning1874
QUOTE (EdinburghLivi @ Sep 15 2008, 11:37) *
Unfortunately, I've never actually had to chance to stand on terracing. Although after a hard muckaround of Football in the morning, I'm quite content to sit.


ohmy.gif

You've missed out. Hopefully you'll be drawn away to someone like Arbroath in the cup and you'll be able to enjoy the terracing experience. thumbup2.gif
EdinburghLivi
QUOTE (Dunning1874 @ Sep 15 2008, 11:56) *
ohmy.gif

You've missed out. Hopefully you'll be drawn away to someone like Arbroath in the cup and you'll be able to enjoy the terracing experience. thumbup2.gif

Hopefully somewhere nearer though laugh.gif . I think it would be possible to get a few mates on the train to go to a ground and quit depending on my Dad taking me to these sort of games, if we go at all. I was close to arranging a trip to east stirling but there was a change of plans at the last moment.
partick_twinny
QUOTE (EdinburghLivi @ Sep 15 2008, 12:07) *
Hopefully somewhere nearer though laugh.gif . I think it would be possible to get a few mates on the train to go to a ground and quit depending on my Dad taking me to these sort of games, if we go at all. I was close to arranging a trip to east stirling but there was a change of plans at the last moment.



Arbroath is a fantastic wee ground, so if you do ever draw them in the cup make sure you go.
Grant228
Bugger if the sea is violen tho.
BluebirdTon
I stand, until a jobsworthy (as they seem to be known now) tells me to sit.

Since the introduction of seats, football has been dieing. smile.gif
BABA
No question as far as I'm concerned, it's got to be standing.

The worrying thing is the number of posters who are just a wee bit younger than my good self, but old enough to have enjoyed an old fashioned ground / terrace, complaining about their old bones and the joys of the comfort of a seat.

It's no wonder we're chasing the U.S. in the world league of fat b*****ds laugh.gif .
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